Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-06-27 Thread robert burrell donkin

On 6/20/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 6/20/06, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I'll attend the Dublin conference, getting in Tuesday late morning.



I'm interested in contributing, especially to the sample incubator
 project template in the area of template web site and template build
 scripts based on maven. I haven't seen much on these topics recently,
 so I guess I'll check in to hackathon on Tuesday and see how I can help.


great :-)

noel has a tutorial all day tuesday and some other members also have stuff
planned for Tuesday. (which is why monday was selected.) but monday may well
turn out to have a  foundation/infrastructure focus.

but i'll be around and working on documentation throughout the hackathon.
tuesday may turn out to be a better day for incubator related documentation.




i will be working on release management this afternoon (after lunch). feel
free to drop in. i'll be on a table at the right hand side of the hackathon.

- robert


Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-06-20 Thread robert burrell donkin

On 6/20/06, Cliff Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 6/19/06, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/7/06, Cliff Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That was my plan as well; so I'm pretty flexible.  I guess I'd
  probably prefer not to schedule anything formal on Monday morning,
  since some folks may still be getting in.

 How does Monday afternoon work?

Works for me -- also probably works okay for those in U.S. helping
remotely.



on IRC we came with (provisionally) 3pm Dublin time (1400 UTC) for the more
focussed session

i plan to produce something more definite and post it to committers later
today

I'll be in Dublin in the mid-morning.  I'll plan (as I've also heard

Robert say) to be working on docs most of Monday and Tuesday with
whomever is there.  It sounds like that will likely include Robert,
Justin, Noel, Sanjiva, possibly Ross, and me.  And then, there's Jean,
Eddie, and David Crossley who have offered to help remotely if
possible.  I'm not sure exactly how this remote thing will work, but I
think it would be worth trying to see if getting everyone's attention
on docs around the same time helps efficiently divide the work up and
offer faster feedback across docs.



there are number of interested people in Dublin late afternoon/early evening
Sunday. so we'll probably meet up at the hotel for
planning/preparation/preliminary work. those who aren't travelling can IRC.

if there is enough interest we could book a room somewhere one evening but
there are events till late more days...

- robert


Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-06-20 Thread robert burrell donkin

On 6/20/06, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I'll attend the Dublin conference, getting in Tuesday late morning.




I'm interested in contributing, especially to the sample incubator

project template in the area of template web site and template build
scripts based on maven. I haven't seen much on these topics recently,
so I guess I'll check in to hackathon on Tuesday and see how I can help.



great :-)

noel has a tutorial all day tuesday and some other members also have stuff
planned for Tuesday. (which is why monday was selected.) but monday may well
turn out to have a  foundation/infrastructure focus.

but i'll be around and working on documentation throughout the hackathon.
tuesday may turn out to be a better day for incubator related documentation.


- robert


Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-06-19 Thread Justin Erenkrantz

On 6/7/06, Cliff Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That was my plan as well; so I'm pretty flexible.  I guess I'd
probably prefer not to schedule anything formal on Monday morning,
since some folks may still be getting in.


How does Monday afternoon work?

Tuesday is pretty much full up already on my calendar...  -- justin

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Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-06-19 Thread Cliff Schmidt

On 6/19/06, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/7/06, Cliff Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That was my plan as well; so I'm pretty flexible.  I guess I'd
 probably prefer not to schedule anything formal on Monday morning,
 since some folks may still be getting in.

How does Monday afternoon work?


Works for me -- also probably works okay for those in U.S. helping remotely.

I'll be in Dublin in the mid-morning.  I'll plan (as I've also heard
Robert say) to be working on docs most of Monday and Tuesday with
whomever is there.  It sounds like that will likely include Robert,
Justin, Noel, Sanjiva, possibly Ross, and me.  And then, there's Jean,
Eddie, and David Crossley who have offered to help remotely if
possible.  I'm not sure exactly how this remote thing will work, but I
think it would be worth trying to see if getting everyone's attention
on docs around the same time helps efficiently divide the work up and
offer faster feedback across docs.

Cliff

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Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-06-19 Thread Craig L Russell

Hi,

I'll attend the Dublin conference, getting in Tuesday late morning.

I'm interested in contributing, especially to the sample incubator  
project template in the area of template web site and template build  
scripts based on maven. I haven't seen much on these topics recently,  
so I guess I'll check in to hackathon on Tuesday and see how I can help.


Craig

On Jun 19, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Cliff Schmidt wrote:


On 6/19/06, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/7/06, Cliff Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That was my plan as well; so I'm pretty flexible.  I guess I'd
 probably prefer not to schedule anything formal on Monday morning,
 since some folks may still be getting in.

How does Monday afternoon work?


Works for me -- also probably works okay for those in U.S. helping  
remotely.


I'll be in Dublin in the mid-morning.  I'll plan (as I've also heard
Robert say) to be working on docs most of Monday and Tuesday with
whomever is there.  It sounds like that will likely include Robert,
Justin, Noel, Sanjiva, possibly Ross, and me.  And then, there's Jean,
Eddie, and David Crossley who have offered to help remotely if
possible.  I'm not sure exactly how this remote thing will work, but I
think it would be worth trying to see if getting everyone's attention
on docs around the same time helps efficiently divide the work up and
offer faster feedback across docs.

Cliff

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Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-06-07 Thread Justin Erenkrantz

On 5/6/06, Cliff Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So, let me put it this way: I'm committed to sit at a table for at
least eight hours during the two hackathon days and make some progress
on this stuff with Robert and whomever else can make it.  We should
also be able to have some live collaboration over irc with folks who
aren't able to make it to Dublin.


Count me in as well for a 'docathon' - I'll be in Dublin too.

Do we have a preferred date / time that we should collectively block
out that also works reasonably well for our remote participants?  At
this point, I'm *mostly* open - but my schedule is getting more and
more committed as we approach the 'Con.

I'm also up for finding a comfy pub one evening and whipping out the
laptops too.  ;-)

Why doesn't this documentation make any sense?
We were on our ninth round of Guinness by then.
Oh.
Hey, everyone else at the table said +1.  But, they thought I asked
about another round...
Uh-uh.

Wheee... -- justin

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Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-06-07 Thread Cliff Schmidt

On 6/7/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/7/06, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 5/6/06, Cliff Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So, let me put it this way: I'm committed to sit at a table for at
  least eight hours during the two hackathon days and make some progress
  on this stuff with Robert and whomever else can make it.  We should
  also be able to have some live collaboration over irc with folks who
  aren't able to make it to Dublin.

 Count me in as well for a 'docathon' - I'll be in Dublin too.


great :-)

Do we have a preferred date / time that we should collectively block
 out that also works reasonably well for our remote participants?  At

this point, I'm *mostly* open - but my schedule is getting more and
 more committed as we approach the 'Con.


nope  (I will be around most of the hackathon working on documentation so
will be available for ad hoc doc) but a more focussed docathon block sounds
good.


That was my plan as well; so I'm pretty flexible.  I guess I'd
probably prefer not to schedule anything formal on Monday morning,
since some folks may still be getting in.

Cliff

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Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-05-10 Thread robert burrell donkin

On 5/6/06, Cliff Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 4/24/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 really need to try to find time to get to grips with the documentation
on
 the foundation and incubator sites. been thinking about making this a
goal
 of mine for infrathon/hackthon in dublin (though sorting out my flights
is
 another job i should have done but haven't).

Let's do it.  We've been talking about the documentation problem for
years.  We've made a good bit of progress every once in a while during
those years, but I bet we could make a whole lot of progress if we
forced ourselves to all get together and dedicate 4-16 hours on it
during the hackathon.  Noel, Jean, and a few others have also talked
about working on docs lately; I've wanted to help, but haven't made
the time to work on anything not directly related to legal stuff.

So, let me put it this way: I'm committed to sit at a table for at
least eight hours during the two hackathon days and make some progress
on this stuff with Robert and whomever else can make it.  We should
also be able to have some live collaboration over irc with folks who
aren't able to make it to Dublin.



sounds like a good plan :-)

unless anyone beats me to it, i'll post something announcement-esque to
somewhere appropriate (maybe community and/or site, or possibly an
announcements list)

BTW i've started on a little project already (inspired by a comment David
Reid made months ago). i'm going through and add indexes to the existing
documents (using a style sheet to speed things up). i hope to add a detailed
index to either the main dev page or linked from it. the index will be
generated using xslt to make it easy to maintain.

- robert


Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-05-07 Thread Ross Gardler

Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:

On Sat, 2006-05-06 at 11:44 -0700, Cliff Schmidt wrote:


So, let me put it this way: I'm committed to sit at a table for at
least eight hours during the two hackathon days and make some progress
on this stuff with Robert and whomever else can make it.  We should
also be able to have some live collaboration over irc with folks who
aren't able to make it to Dublin.



I plan to be in Dublin .. please count me in too. This is a critical
area of improvement for ASF and it'll be my pleasure to help.


I'm not 100% certain I will be in Dublin, but if I am you can be sure I 
will be present at the docathon.


Ross

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Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-05-07 Thread David Crossley
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
 Count me in as a remote hackathon participant (I won't be going to Dublin).

Yep, if there is a way that i can help remotely, then i will.

-David

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Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-05-06 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Count me in as a remote hackathon participant (I won't be going to Dublin).

 -jean

Cliff Schmidt wrote:
 On 4/24/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 really need to try to find time to get to grips with the documentation on
 the foundation and incubator sites. been thinking about making this a
 goal
 of mine for infrathon/hackthon in dublin (though sorting out my
 flights is
 another job i should have done but haven't).
 
 
 Let's do it.  We've been talking about the documentation problem for
 years.  We've made a good bit of progress every once in a while during
 those years, but I bet we could make a whole lot of progress if we
 forced ourselves to all get together and dedicate 4-16 hours on it
 during the hackathon.  Noel, Jean, and a few others have also talked
 about working on docs lately; I've wanted to help, but haven't made
 the time to work on anything not directly related to legal stuff.
 
 So, let me put it this way: I'm committed to sit at a table for at
 least eight hours during the two hackathon days and make some progress
 on this stuff with Robert and whomever else can make it.  We should
 also be able to have some live collaboration over irc with folks who
 aren't able to make it to Dublin.
 
 Thanks for the inspiration, Robert.
 
 Cliff
 
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Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-05-06 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Sat, 2006-05-06 at 11:44 -0700, Cliff Schmidt wrote:
 
 So, let me put it this way: I'm committed to sit at a table for at
 least eight hours during the two hackathon days and make some progress
 on this stuff with Robert and whomever else can make it.  We should
 also be able to have some live collaboration over irc with folks who
 aren't able to make it to Dublin.

I plan to be in Dublin .. please count me in too. This is a critical
area of improvement for ASF and it'll be my pleasure to help.

Sanjiva.


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