Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Thanks!

On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:36 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

> No prob! Will do so over the weekend...
> 
> A prelim look suggests it's not that much.
> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Jim!
>> 
>> From: Jim Jagielski 
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer  
>> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board 
>> report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]
>> 
>> I'll look into it... iirc, the code knows if it's run "after"
>> that month's board date, so we could handle it there.
>> 
>> I used the Date::Manip package to make it easier to do
>> these sorts of date adjustments...
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>> 
>>> The thing I've been trying to tell you Dave is that it can't
>>> be sent before the first of the month.  That's just the way
>>> the script is coded.  If you consider this a bug we can arrange
>>> access to the script for you to hack on (it's in perl).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -----
>>>> From: Dave Fisher 
>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Cc: 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:10 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator 
>>>> PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches 
>>>> are welcome" ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can 
>>>> make an improvement trying on my new IPMC hat in a non-mentor role.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The issue is that because the script is run the 1st of the month,
>>>>> it implies that the "lead time" for podlings will always be 
>>>> somewhat
>>>>> "short".
>>>>> 
>>>>> But these are *reminders*. Podlings should know well in advance without
>>>>> these when their reports are due.
>>>> 
>>>> Understood. The deadline was recently moved up a week and therefore the 
>>>> message 
>>>> in the email either needs to be rewritten.
>>>> 
>>>>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your 
>>>> quarterly
>>>>> board report.
>>>> 
>>>> to
>>>> 
>>>> "This is your only reminder that the deadline is very soon to submit your 
>>>> quarterly or monthly board report."
>>>> 
>>>> Or the email could be sent a week earlier with no change in the text.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
No prob! Will do so over the weekend...

A prelim look suggests it's not that much.

On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

> Thanks Jim!
> 
> From: Jim Jagielski 
> To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer  
> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board 
> report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]
> 
> I'll look into it... iirc, the code knows if it's run "after"
> that month's board date, so we could handle it there.
> 
> I used the Date::Manip package to make it easier to do
> these sorts of date adjustments...
> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> 
> > The thing I've been trying to tell you Dave is that it can't
> > be sent before the first of the month.  That's just the way
> > the script is coded.  If you consider this a bug we can arrange
> > access to the script for you to hack on (it's in perl).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message -----
> >> From: Dave Fisher 
> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >> Cc: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:10 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator 
> >> PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches 
> >> are welcome" ;-)
> >>>> 
> >>>> If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can 
> >> make an improvement trying on my new IPMC hat in a non-mentor role.
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> The issue is that because the script is run the 1st of the month,
> >>> it implies that the "lead time" for podlings will always be 
> >> somewhat
> >>> "short".
> >>> 
> >>> But these are *reminders*. Podlings should know well in advance without
> >>> these when their reports are due.
> >> 
> >> Understood. The deadline was recently moved up a week and therefore the 
> >> message 
> >> in the email either needs to be rewritten.
> >> 
> >>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your 
> >> quarterly
> >>> board report.
> >> 
> >> to
> >> 
> >> "This is your only reminder that the deadline is very soon to submit your 
> >> quarterly or monthly board report."
> >> 
> >> Or the email could be sent a week earlier with no change in the text.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >> 
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Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
Thanks Jim!



>
> From: Jim Jagielski 
>To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer  
>Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:12 AM
>Subject: Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board 
>report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]
> 
>I'll look into it... iirc, the code knows if it's run "after"
>that month's board date, so we could handle it there.
>
>I used the Date::Manip package to make it easier to do
>these sorts of date adjustments...
>
>On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>
>> The thing I've been trying to tell you Dave is that it can't
>> be sent before the first of the month.  That's just the way
>> the script is coded.  If you consider this a bug we can arrange
>> access to the script for you to hack on (it's in perl).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Dave Fisher 
>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>> Cc: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:10 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator 
>>> PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches 
>>> are welcome" ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can 
>>> make an improvement trying on my new IPMC hat in a non-mentor role.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The issue is that because the script is run the 1st of the month,
>>>> it implies that the "lead time" for podlings will always be 
>>> somewhat
>>>> "short".
>>>> 
>>>> But these are *reminders*. Podlings should know well in advance without
>>>> these when their reports are due.
>>> 
>>> Understood. The deadline was recently moved up a week and therefore the 
>>> message 
>>> in the email either needs to be rewritten.
>>> 
>>>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your 
>>> quarterly
>>>> board report.
>>> 
>>> to
>>> 
>>> "This is your only reminder that the deadline is very soon to submit your 
>>> quarterly or monthly board report."
>>> 
>>> Or the email could be sent a week earlier with no change in the text.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
I'll look into it... iirc, the code knows if it's run "after"
that month's board date, so we could handle it there.

I used the Date::Manip package to make it easier to do
these sorts of date adjustments...

On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

> The thing I've been trying to tell you Dave is that it can't
> be sent before the first of the month.  That's just the way
> the script is coded.  If you consider this a bug we can arrange
> access to the script for you to hack on (it's in perl).
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave Fisher 
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board 
>> report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches 
>> are welcome" ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can 
>> make an improvement trying on my new IPMC hat in a non-mentor role.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The issue is that because the script is run the 1st of the month,
>>> it implies that the "lead time" for podlings will always be 
>> somewhat
>>> "short".
>>> 
>>> But these are *reminders*. Podlings should know well in advance without
>>> these when their reports are due.
>> 
>> Understood. The deadline was recently moved up a week and therefore the 
>> message 
>> in the email either needs to be rewritten.
>> 
>>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your 
>> quarterly
>>> board report.
>> 
>> to
>> 
>> "This is your only reminder that the deadline is very soon to submit your 
>> quarterly or monthly board report."
>> 
>> Or the email could be sent a week earlier with no change in the text.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
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Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Dave Fisher

On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:16 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

> The thing I've been trying to tell you Dave is that it can't
> be sent before the first of the month.  That's just the way
> the script is coded.

Understood. Dates are tricky spanning months (and years.)

>   If you consider this a bug we can arrange
> access to the script for you to hack on (it's in perl).

Yes, please.

Thanks,
Dave

> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave Fisher 
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board 
>> report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches 
>> are welcome" ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can 
>> make an improvement trying on my new IPMC hat in a non-mentor role.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The issue is that because the script is run the 1st of the month,
>>> it implies that the "lead time" for podlings will always be 
>> somewhat
>>> "short".
>>> 
>>> But these are *reminders*. Podlings should know well in advance without
>>> these when their reports are due.
>> 
>> Understood. The deadline was recently moved up a week and therefore the 
>> message 
>> in the email either needs to be rewritten.
>> 
>>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your 
>> quarterly
>>> board report.
>> 
>> to
>> 
>> "This is your only reminder that the deadline is very soon to submit your 
>> quarterly or monthly board report."
>> 
>> Or the email could be sent a week earlier with no change in the text.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
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Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>
>>> OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches are 
>>> welcome" ;-)
>>>
>>> If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can make an 
>>> improvement trying on my new IPMC hat in a non-mentor role.
>>>
>>
>> The issue is that because the script is run the 1st of the month,
>> it implies that the "lead time" for podlings will always be somewhat
>> "short".
>>
>> But these are *reminders*. Podlings should know well in advance without
>> these when their reports are due.
>
> Understood. The deadline was recently moved up a week and therefore the 
> message in the email either needs to be rewritten.
>

Has there been any sort of official notification to poddlings that the
reporting date changed? I couldn't find anything from a quick search
so the discussion about it is likely to have got lost to many in all
the noise on general@.

   ...ant

   ...ant

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Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
The thing I've been trying to tell you Dave is that it can't
be sent before the first of the month.  That's just the way
the script is coded.  If you consider this a bug we can arrange
access to the script for you to hack on (it's in perl).



- Original Message -
> From: Dave Fisher 
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board 
> report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> 
>> 
>>  On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> 
>>>  OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches 
> are welcome" ;-)
>>> 
>>>  If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can 
> make an improvement trying on my new IPMC hat in a non-mentor role.
>>> 
>> 
>>  The issue is that because the script is run the 1st of the month,
>>  it implies that the "lead time" for podlings will always be 
> somewhat
>>  "short".
>> 
>>  But these are *reminders*. Podlings should know well in advance without
>>  these when their reports are due.
> 
> Understood. The deadline was recently moved up a week and therefore the 
> message 
> in the email either needs to be rewritten.
> 
>>  It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your 
> quarterly
>>  board report.
> 
> to
> 
> "This is your only reminder that the deadline is very soon to submit your 
> quarterly or monthly board report."
> 
> Or the email could be sent a week earlier with no change in the text.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
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Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Dave Fisher

On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

> 
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> 
>> OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches are 
>> welcome" ;-)
>> 
>> If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can make an 
>> improvement trying on my new IPMC hat in a non-mentor role.
>> 
> 
> The issue is that because the script is run the 1st of the month,
> it implies that the "lead time" for podlings will always be somewhat
> "short".
> 
> But these are *reminders*. Podlings should know well in advance without
> these when their reports are due.

Understood. The deadline was recently moved up a week and therefore the message 
in the email either needs to be rewritten.

> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
> board report.

to

"This is your only reminder that the deadline is very soon to submit your 
quarterly or monthly board report."

Or the email could be sent a week earlier with no change in the text.

Regards,
Dave

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Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Jim Jagielski

On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> 
> OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches are 
> welcome" ;-)
> 
> If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can make an 
> improvement trying on my new IPMC hat in a non-mentor role.
> 

The issue is that because the script is run the 1st of the month,
it implies that the "lead time" for podlings will always be somewhat
"short".

But these are *reminders*. Podlings should know well in advance without
these when their reports are due.


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Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher

On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Greg Stein wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 14:40, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> ...
>>> There is no "announcement". The calendar is set well in advance:
>>>  repos/committers/board/calendar.txt
>> 
>> OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches are 
>> welcome" ;-)
> 
> Nah. I hate that phrase. It is patronizing and dismissive. But
> improvements are always a Good Thing.

I should have said some might say. If I am going to complain then as an IPMC 
member I ought to be willing to try to fix the issue.

> 
>> If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can make an 
>> improvement trying on my new IPMC hat in a non-mentor role.
> 
> repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/tools/incubator_reminder/

I'll wait and see I would certainly operate on this using RTC.

> 
> I suspect that you'll need to ask infra@ for access to that
> repository. It has restricted access for security reasons.

Certainly. I'll see what the next days bring and then ping infra.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Cheers,
> -g
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Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-01 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 14:40, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>...
>> There is no "announcement". The calendar is set well in advance:
>>  repos/committers/board/calendar.txt
>
> OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches are 
> welcome" ;-)

Nah. I hate that phrase. It is patronizing and dismissive. But
improvements are always a Good Thing.

> If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can make an 
> improvement trying on my new IPMC hat in a non-mentor role.

repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/tools/incubator_reminder/

I suspect that you'll need to ask infra@ for access to that
repository. It has restricted access for security reasons.

Cheers,
-g

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Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher

On Feb 1, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Greg Stein wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:30, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I would like to point out that a reminder on the day the report is due is 
>> NOT plenty of time.
> 
> While the *reminder* may not have given you much time, note that
> podlings should already know their requirements and due dates. Having
> a reminder does not provide an excuse to ignore these details :-)

Not saying it is an excuse. Just saying that the message could be "friendlier" 
given the emphasis on quality podling status reports that the IPMC must review.

> 
>> ...
>> I realize that this may be due to when the board chooses to announce the 
>> meeting. I think that podlings ought to be reminded three weeks before the 
>> board meeting.
> 
> There is no "announcement". The calendar is set well in advance:
>  repos/committers/board/calendar.txt

OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches are welcome" 
;-)

If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can make an 
improvement trying on my new IPMC hat in a non-mentor role.

Thanks,
Dave



> 
> Generally: third Wednesday of every month. (of course, the Board may
> tweak meeting dates, but that is the exception)
> 
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> -g
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Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-01 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:30, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to point out that a reminder on the day the report is due is NOT 
> plenty of time.

While the *reminder* may not have given you much time, note that
podlings should already know their requirements and due dates. Having
a reminder does not provide an excuse to ignore these details :-)

>...
> I realize that this may be due to when the board chooses to announce the 
> meeting. I think that podlings ought to be reminded three weeks before the 
> board meeting.

There is no "announcement". The calendar is set well in advance:
  repos/committers/board/calendar.txt

Generally: third Wednesday of every month. (of course, the Board may
tweak meeting dates, but that is the exception)

Cheers,
-g

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Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-01 Thread Joe Schaefer
Not much I can do about this given the way the script works.
I'd like to point out tho that the 2 weeks preceding isn't
currently being rigidly enforced at this point, and certainly
some leeway will be granted given the way the calendar works
out for February.



- Original Message -
> From: Dave Fisher 
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 11:30 AM
> Subject: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board 
> report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to point out that a reminder on the day the report is due is NOT 
> plenty of time.
> 
>>  The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 February 2012, 10:00:00 PST. The 
> report 
>>  for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The 
> Incubator PMC 
>>  requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to 
> allow 
>>  sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Feb 1st).
> 
> Fortunately for Flex, Bertrand was completely on top of this and the podling 
> is 
> very active and had their act together in hours!
> 
> I understand that the policy was changed to allow the IPMC more time to 
> review 
> podling reports.
> 
> But now the previous notice timing leaves the time short for podlings to 
> produce 
> reports.
> 
> I realize that this may be due to when the board chooses to announce the 
> meeting. I think that podlings ought to be reminded three weeks before the 
> board 
> meeting.
> 
> Perhaps it is merely a "bug" in the automated system.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>>  From: Marvin 
>>  Date: February 1, 2012 4:37:57 AM PST
>>  To: flex-...@incubator.apache.org
>>  Subject: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])
>>  Reply-To: flex-...@incubator.apache.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Dear podling,
>> 
>>  This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache 
> Incubator PMC.
>>  It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your 
> quarterly
>>  board report.
>> 
>>  The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 February 2012, 10:00:00 PST. The 
> report 
>>  for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The 
> Incubator PMC 
>>  requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to 
> allow 
>>  sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Feb 1st).
>> 
>>  Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, 
> and 
>>  subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you 
> 
>>  should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
>> 
>>  Thanks,
>> 
>>  The Apache Incubator PMC
>> 
>>  Submitting your Report
>>  --
>> 
>>  Your report should contain the following:
>> 
>>  * Your project name
>>  * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the 
> project
>>    or necessarily of its field
>>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards 
>>    graduation.
>>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be 
> aware of
>>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
>> 
>>  This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>> 
>>   http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012
>> 
>>  Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this 
> page is
>>       created from a template.
>> 
>>  Mentors
>>  ---
>>  Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the 
> 
>>  Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the 
>>  project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator 
> PMC.
>> 
>>  Incubator PMC
>> 
> 
> 
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Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi,

I would like to point out that a reminder on the day the report is due is NOT 
plenty of time.

> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 February 2012, 10:00:00 PST. The 
> report 
> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator 
> PMC 
> requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to 
> allow 
> sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Feb 1st).

Fortunately for Flex, Bertrand was completely on top of this and the podling is 
very active and had their act together in hours!

I understand that the policy was changed to allow the IPMC more time to review 
podling reports.

But now the previous notice timing leaves the time short for podlings to 
produce reports.

I realize that this may be due to when the board chooses to announce the 
meeting. I think that podlings ought to be reminded three weeks before the 
board meeting.

Perhaps it is merely a "bug" in the automated system.

Regards,
Dave

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Marvin 
> Date: February 1, 2012 4:37:57 AM PST
> To: flex-...@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])
> Reply-To: flex-...@incubator.apache.org
> 
> 
> 
> Dear podling,
> 
> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator 
> PMC.
> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
> board report.
> 
> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 February 2012, 10:00:00 PST. The 
> report 
> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator 
> PMC 
> requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to 
> allow 
> sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Feb 1st).
> 
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, 
> and 
> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you 
> should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> The Apache Incubator PMC
> 
> Submitting your Report
> --
> 
> Your report should contain the following:
> 
> * Your project name
> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the 
> project
>   or necessarily of its field
> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards 
>   graduation.
> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware 
> of
> * How has the community developed since the last report
> * How has the project developed since the last report.
> 
> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> 
>  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012
> 
> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page 
> is
>  created from a template.
> 
> Mentors
> ---
> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the 
> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the 
> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.
> 
> Incubator PMC
> 


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