On 11/04/2015 03:55 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur wrote: > One question on discussing candidature of a person for PPMC on private: > I know that private is only for PPMC, but I believe the new elected PPMC > can always get the digest for older messages (or not?). If that is the case > wouldn't it defeat the purpose of having these discussions on private?
New PPMC/PMC members *can* access private list archives where their candidacy is discussed, absolutely. And yes, this means that when they're added to the PPMC (or PMC, or as an ASF Member) they can see where they've been discussed 'privately.' So, when discussing this sort of thing, assume that eventually the person you're discussing will be able to see it. If the purpose were simply to do this out of sight of the prospective PPMC member, then it would defeat the purpose. However, AIUI, it serves a few additional purposes: - It doesn't have an immediate impact on the project or person. Someone who is contributing well but not quite ready for PPMC duties, for example, may get immediately discouraged if they're discussed publicly and found wanting. - You don't wind up with a publicly searchable discussion of someone's suitability (or lack thereof) that might turn up when someone google's a person's name. So - it might hurt my feelings eventually to learn that someone -1'ed me for some reason, but it shouldn't impact my job prospects, etc. But I recommend assuming that when you discuss anyone for PPMC (etc) on a private list that the odds are they will eventually see it. I'm not a fan of this, because I suspect it inhibits fully candid discussion. On the flip side, I don't think PPMC folks should shy away from objectively discussing folks and being willing to say "this person may be a great PPMC member someday, but I don't think they are ready today. Here's where I feel they need to improve." One hopes that our PPMC, PMC, etc. folks can handle objective (if retroactive) feedback, and be happy that they've since addressed concerns. But if a person goes on a personal rant against someone who is later added to the PPMC, then... they can probably expect to be dropped from the new PPMC person's holiday card list. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net Twitter: @jzb http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
