Re: technology sucks

2003-10-03 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
Hi,

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:02:59 +0200
Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm the moderator there, and I didn't see your mail.
 I apologise for missing it, it was not intentional. Sorry.

Okay, then can the config of the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
be changed? When? Who? How?

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By the way,

I think whether intentional or not-intentional would be
a critical issue rampant in the ASF world.
I think that the diversity in the ASF (e.g. difference between
httpd/apr and jakarta) to a certain extent should be allowable
and acceptable in a sense. (Also, AAMOC)
However, the thing is worse, people were not willing to
pass the stories down from generation to generation by
the oral tradition. SO, the new comers can not distinguish
whether XX is intentional or not-intentional.
(not-intentional can be interpreted as
from *ignorance* due to the lack of bequest to the others)
# ezmlm config, PMC voting rules,  hard to figure up all.
As a result, the different cultures co-exist within the ASF,
without the respects to each projects. (maybe)

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A bad habit is easy to get into and hard to get rid of.

... NICE *PROVERB* ... and please take it seriously

Take care.

-- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



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Re: technology sucks

2003-09-23 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
Roy,

Please note that [EMAIL PROTECTED]
list is suffering the same disease.
I said this before at that mailing list. Noone responded.
It (nonfeasance) really humiliated me.
I'm the moderator there, and I didn't see your mail.

I apologise for missing it, it was not intentional. Sorry.

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   (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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RE: technology sucks

2003-09-22 Thread Noel J. Bergman
 Please note that [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 list is suffering the same disease.

It looks to me that projects@ has both an owner and a moderator (although it
could use more moderators).

Your comment
(http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
he.orgmsgNo=41) was about a Reply-To header.

--- Noel


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Re: technology sucks

2003-09-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:44:05 -0400
(Subject: RE: technology sucks)
Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Your comment
 (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]msgNo=41)
 was about a Reply-To header.

Oh, yes. yes.

*** NOTE ***  Lists without Reply-To Header would be sure to
become inactive lists soon ... E-mail cultures/histories had shown,
proven. Quite, technology sucks.

I can easily imagine that many (especially, Paul Hammant) participants
in that mailing list would have received *personal* mails which should
go to the lists directly.

The current config of infrastructure@ must be reasonable because
that list is to become HELP DESK, not LIST FOR DISCUSSION.
However, [EMAIL PROTECTED] must be 
LIST FOR DISCUSSION and strengthen the [AltRMI], [FTPServer]
communities. The apparent difference there might be.

Again and again, 
Lists without Reply-To Header would be sure to become inactive
lists soon.

Regards,

__ Tetsuya [EMAIL PROTECTED] __



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RE: technology sucks

2003-09-22 Thread Noel J. Bergman
 Lists without Reply-To Header ...

If the PMC wants the list properties changed, perhaps because of requests
from the list users, they can submit a request to have the list
reconfigured.

--- Noel


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