Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Ratis as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> Please let me know if we are good to proceed for voting. So, that I can
> start the voting thread.

Sounds good to me.

Thanks,
Justin

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Ratis as TLP

[Uma gangumalla]

HI Justin,

Ratis community addressed the following issues:
1. Adjust Github notifications settings to use issues@ mailing list ( JIRA:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RATIS-1297 )
2. Fix the wrong links from Ratis website and download link point to mirror
links instead of download area directly  (
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RATIS-1285 )
3. Removed the cloned ratis website : https://elek.github.io/ratis-site/

Please let me know if we are good to proceed for voting. So, that I can
start the voting thread.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Regards,
Uma




On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 5:31 PM Uma gangumalla  wrote:

> HI Justin, Thank you so much for pointing.
> Sorry for the late reply, I stuck in some internal stuff and could not get
> back here.
>
> There are direct conversations in dev lists as well, but there is more
> traffic from github conversations into dev lists then direct conversations
> relatively.
>
> >have you considered moving the GitHub traffic off the dev list?
> Let me initiate a discussion in dev@ratis to discuss this. Thanks for
> suggesting.
>
> I have filed a JIRA for correcting wrong links and release links. [1]
>
> >This also seem a little odd [2], do you know why it exists.
> This will be deleted. Thanks Marton for the reply.
>
> Regards,
> Uma
>
> [1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RATIS-1285
> [2] https://elek.github.io/ratis-site/
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 2:05 AM Elek, Marton  wrote:
>
>>
>> On 12/24/20 3:37 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>> > This also seem a little odd [2], do you know why it exists.
>>  >
>>  > [2]: https://elek.github.io/ratis-site/
>>
>> Created as a preview for the first version of Ratis site during the
>> creation, to help reviews and forgot to delete it.
>>
>> After reviews the content of this patch is moved to the official
>> ratis-site.
>>
>> Thanks the reminder and sorry for the confusion.
>> Marton
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Ratis as TLP

[Uma gangumalla]

HI Justin, Thank you so much for pointing.
Sorry for the late reply, I stuck in some internal stuff and could not get
back here.

There are direct conversations in dev lists as well, but there is more
traffic from github conversations into dev lists then direct conversations
relatively.

>have you considered moving the GitHub traffic off the dev list?
Let me initiate a discussion in dev@ratis to discuss this. Thanks for
suggesting.

I have filed a JIRA for correcting wrong links and release links. [1]

>This also seem a little odd [2], do you know why it exists.
This will be deleted. Thanks Marton for the reply.

Regards,
Uma

[1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RATIS-1285
[2] https://elek.github.io/ratis-site/

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 2:05 AM Elek, Marton  wrote:

>
> On 12/24/20 3:37 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:
> > This also seem a little odd [2], do you know why it exists.
>  >
>  > [2]: https://elek.github.io/ratis-site/
>
> Created as a preview for the first version of Ratis site during the
> creation, to help reviews and forgot to delete it.
>
> After reviews the content of this patch is moved to the official
> ratis-site.
>
> Thanks the reminder and sorry for the confusion.
> Marton
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Ratis as TLP

[Elek, Marton]

On 12/24/20 3:37 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:

This also seem a little odd [2], do you know why it exists.

>
> [2]: https://elek.github.io/ratis-site/

Created as a preview for the first version of Ratis site during the 
creation, to help reviews and forgot to delete it.


After reviews the content of this patch is moved to the official ratis-site.

Thanks the reminder and sorry for the confusion.
Marton

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Ratis as TLP

[Uma gangumalla]

HI Ming,
Thanks a lot for the reply and suggestions.
Yeah since it was not mandatory, we did not fill that form. If you have
specific questions on that, I can bring the points here.
Yes, name-search approved: Please find the JIRA:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-160

Yes, you are right, we have actually started discuss and vote thread in
private@ratis first. Then I started vote thread directly. I should have
started from discuss. However vote thread passed. I believe in vote thread
also usually people can raise concerns if there are. Since it was passed in
vote thread, I thought that should be ok. If DISCUSS thread also needed, I
can run that too, but it may be odd after vote thread passed ;-)

Regards,
Uma

On 2020/12/24 01:31:52, Ming Wen  wrote:
> Hi, Uma,
> Has Ratis completed the podling maturity assessment? which is not
> necessary, but is helpful for this discussion.
> Is the name search approved by brand vp?
> And I only found the vote thread[1] in your dev mailing list, but no
> discuss thread. Did I miss something?
>
> [1]
>
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/re57bc4c8e38a8e28c7b2b2f96342a93c65276fee88d8d0ef59468a54%40%3Cdev.ratis.apache.org%3E
>
> Thanks,
> Ming Wen, Apache APISIX PMC Chair
> Twitter: _WenMing
>
>
> Uma gangumalla  于2020年12月24日周四 上午8:43写道：
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > The Apache Ratis podling community discussed and voted to graduate as a
> > TLP.
> > Please see the vote reference threads below: [3] [4] [5]
> >
> > Apache Ratis project is a very active project and the community has
grown
> > well by following the Apache way in the process. It produced several
> > releases by having diverse people as release managers.
> > I and the community strongly believe that it's ready for graduation.
> > Please let me know if you have any feedback.
> >
> > If there are no objections, I will start the Vote thread separately.
> >
> > Here is the community voted and discussed text which includes board
> > resolution text:
> >
> > 
> >
> > Dear Community:
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who participated in the discussion about
graduation[1].
> > This is a formal voting thread for Apache Ratis graduation.
> >
> > If this vote passes, the next step would be to submit the resolution
below
> > to the Incubator PMC, Then it would vote on sending it on to the Apache
> > Board.
> >
> > Vote:
> > [ ] +1 - Recommend graduation of Apache Ratis as a TLP
> > [ ]  0 - I don't feel strongly about it, but don't object
> > [ ] -1 - Do not recommend graduation of Apache Ratis because...
> >
> > The VOTE will open for at least 72 hours.
> >
> > We already ran this vote[2] in a private list and it passed there with
14
> > binding votes. Here is the opportunity for all community members to
> > participate in voting and provide your feedback if any.
> >
> >
> >
-
> > The Apache Ratis project has been an Apache incubator project for
nearly 3
> > year now. Since then the community has grown and followed Apache Way.
Some
> > highlights include:
> > * 7 releases given ( including 1.0.0 alpha and 0.0.1 alpha ) by having
> > different people as release managers
> > * 34 contributors ( from GitHub)
> > * 27 committers
> > * 1161 Jiras created, 905 resolved or closed
> > * 293 pull requests in github
> > * One of the biggest positives for this community is that most of the
> > members in this community have a lot of experience in other Apache
projects
> > already.
> >
> > Some additional note about the resolution below:
> > The current PPMC will be transitioned to the PMC. We have invited some
of
> > the mentors in the current PPMC who like to stay involved.
> > We are also adding Siddharth and Jie Wang into PMC as we believe they
are
> > committed to the project and a good addition to PMC.
> >
> > Below is the text for board resolution:
> > =
> >
> > Establish the Apache Ratis Project
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > related to A java implementation for RAFT consensus protocol.
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ratis Project", be and hereby is
> > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Ratis Project be and hereby is responsible for
> > the creation and maintenance of software related to A java
> > implementation for RAFT consensus protocol; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ratis" be and
> > hereby is created, the person holding such office to 

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Ratis as TLP

[Uma gangumalla]

Included ratis dev in CC. Thanks

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 4:42 PM Uma gangumalla  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> The Apache Ratis podling community discussed and voted to graduate as a
> TLP.
> Please see the vote reference threads below: [3] [4] [5]
>
> Apache Ratis project is a very active project and the community has grown
> well by following the Apache way in the process. It produced several
> releases by having diverse people as release managers.
> I and the community strongly believe that it's ready for graduation.
> Please let me know if you have any feedback.
>
> If there are no objections, I will start the Vote thread separately.
>
> Here is the community voted and discussed text which includes board
> resolution text:
>
> 
>
> Dear Community:
>
> Thanks to everyone who participated in the discussion about graduation[1].
> This is a formal voting thread for Apache Ratis graduation.
>
> If this vote passes, the next step would be to submit the resolution below
> to the Incubator PMC, Then it would vote on sending it on to the Apache
> Board.
>
> Vote:
> [ ] +1 - Recommend graduation of Apache Ratis as a TLP
> [ ]  0 - I don't feel strongly about it, but don't object
> [ ] -1 - Do not recommend graduation of Apache Ratis because...
>
> The VOTE will open for at least 72 hours.
>
> We already ran this vote[2] in a private list and it passed there with 14
> binding votes. Here is the opportunity for all community members to
> participate in voting and provide your feedback if any.
>
> -
> The Apache Ratis project has been an Apache incubator project for nearly 3
> year now. Since then the community has grown and followed Apache Way. Some
> highlights include:
> * 7 releases given ( including 1.0.0 alpha and 0.0.1 alpha ) by having
> different people as release managers
> * 34 contributors ( from GitHub)
> * 27 committers
> * 1161 Jiras created, 905 resolved or closed
> * 293 pull requests in github
> * One of the biggest positives for this community is that most of the
> members in this community have a lot of experience in other Apache projects
> already.
>
> Some additional note about the resolution below:
> The current PPMC will be transitioned to the PMC. We have invited some of
> the mentors in the current PPMC who like to stay involved.
> We are also adding Siddharth and Jie Wang into PMC as we believe they are
> committed to the project and a good addition to PMC.
>
> Below is the text for board resolution:
> =
>
> Establish the Apache Ratis Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> related to A java implementation for RAFT consensus protocol.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ratis Project", be and hereby is
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Ratis Project be and hereby is responsible for
> the creation and maintenance of software related to A java
> implementation for RAFT consensus protocol; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ratis" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Ratis
> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Ratis Project;
> and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Ratis Project:
>
>  * Anu Engineer  [Hadoop, Ozone PMC,
> Incubator Committer]
>  * Arpit Agarwal [ ASF Member, Hadoop, Ozone,
> Incubator PMC]
>  * Enis Soztutar [ASF Member, Hadoop, HBase,
> Incubator PMC and also PMC in curator, gora, phoenix]
>  * Hanisha Koneru[Hadoop, Ozone PMC,
> Incubator Committer]
>  * Jie Wang  [Incubator, Ozone Committer]
>  * Jing Zhao [Hadoop PMC, Incubator Committer]
>  * Jitendra Nath Pandey   [ASF Member, Hadoop, Ozone,
> Incubator PMC and also PMC in ambari, atlas, tez]
>  * Josh Elser [ASF Member, HBase, Incubator
> PMC, and also PMC in accumulo, calcite, fluo, phoenix, rya]
>  * Lokesh Jain   [Hadoop, Ozone PMC, Incubator
> Committer]
>  * Marton Elek[Hadoop, Ozone PMC, Incubator
> Committer]
>  * Mingliang Liu  [Hadoop PMC, Incubator
> Committer]
>  * Mukul Kumar Singh  [Hadoop, Ozone PMC, Incubator
> Committer]
>  * Shashikant Banerjee   [Hadoop, Ozone PMC,
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Ratis as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

I notice you use [1]. Are the conversations there being brought back to the 
mailing list? There doesn’t seem to be a lot of conversation happening on your 
mailing list other than GitHub traffic, have you considered moving the GitHub 
traffic off the dev list?

I notice the download links on your front page and not using the  correct links 
[1], they shouldn’t  point directly to the download area

This also seem a little odd [2], do you know why it exists.

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ratis/1.0.0/ 

2. https://elek.github.io/ratis-site/

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Ratis as TLP

[Ming Wen]

Hi, Uma,
Has Ratis completed the podling maturity assessment? which is not
necessary, but is helpful for this discussion.
Is the name search approved by brand vp?
And I only found the vote thread[1] in your dev mailing list, but no
discuss thread. Did I miss something?

[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/re57bc4c8e38a8e28c7b2b2f96342a93c65276fee88d8d0ef59468a54%40%3Cdev.ratis.apache.org%3E

Thanks,
Ming Wen, Apache APISIX PMC Chair
Twitter: _WenMing


Uma gangumalla  于2020年12月24日周四 上午8:43写道：

> Dear All,
>
> The Apache Ratis podling community discussed and voted to graduate as a
> TLP.
> Please see the vote reference threads below: [3] [4] [5]
>
> Apache Ratis project is a very active project and the community has grown
> well by following the Apache way in the process. It produced several
> releases by having diverse people as release managers.
> I and the community strongly believe that it's ready for graduation.
> Please let me know if you have any feedback.
>
> If there are no objections, I will start the Vote thread separately.
>
> Here is the community voted and discussed text which includes board
> resolution text:
>
> 
>
> Dear Community:
>
> Thanks to everyone who participated in the discussion about graduation[1].
> This is a formal voting thread for Apache Ratis graduation.
>
> If this vote passes, the next step would be to submit the resolution below
> to the Incubator PMC, Then it would vote on sending it on to the Apache
> Board.
>
> Vote:
> [ ] +1 - Recommend graduation of Apache Ratis as a TLP
> [ ]  0 - I don't feel strongly about it, but don't object
> [ ] -1 - Do not recommend graduation of Apache Ratis because...
>
> The VOTE will open for at least 72 hours.
>
> We already ran this vote[2] in a private list and it passed there with 14
> binding votes. Here is the opportunity for all community members to
> participate in voting and provide your feedback if any.
>
>
> -
> The Apache Ratis project has been an Apache incubator project for nearly 3
> year now. Since then the community has grown and followed Apache Way. Some
> highlights include:
> * 7 releases given ( including 1.0.0 alpha and 0.0.1 alpha ) by having
> different people as release managers
> * 34 contributors ( from GitHub)
> * 27 committers
> * 1161 Jiras created, 905 resolved or closed
> * 293 pull requests in github
> * One of the biggest positives for this community is that most of the
> members in this community have a lot of experience in other Apache projects
> already.
>
> Some additional note about the resolution below:
> The current PPMC will be transitioned to the PMC. We have invited some of
> the mentors in the current PPMC who like to stay involved.
> We are also adding Siddharth and Jie Wang into PMC as we believe they are
> committed to the project and a good addition to PMC.
>
> Below is the text for board resolution:
> =
>
> Establish the Apache Ratis Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> related to A java implementation for RAFT consensus protocol.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ratis Project", be and hereby is
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Ratis Project be and hereby is responsible for
> the creation and maintenance of software related to A java
> implementation for RAFT consensus protocol; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ratis" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Ratis
> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Ratis Project;
> and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Ratis Project:
>
>  * Anu Engineer  [Hadoop, Ozone PMC,
> Incubator Committer]
>  * Arpit Agarwal [ ASF Member, Hadoop, Ozone,
> Incubator PMC]
>  * Enis Soztutar [ASF Member, Hadoop, HBase,
> Incubator PMC and also PMC in curator, gora, phoenix]
>  * Hanisha Koneru[Hadoop, Ozone PMC,
> Incubator Committer]
>  * Jie Wang  [Incubator, Ozone
> Committer]
>  * Jing Zhao [Hadoop PMC, Incubator
> Committer]
>  * Jitendra Nath Pandey   [ASF Member, Hadoop, Ozone,
> Incubator PMC and also PMC in ambari, atlas, tez]
>  * Josh Elser