Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Gavin ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: If your still willing, can I add you in as a Mentor ? Yes, on the basis that I mentioned; A non-technical Mentor, as I have zero or less PHP experience and don't intend to get any... Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
-Original Message- From: hedh...@gmail.com [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Niclas Hedhman Sent: Sunday, 22 March 2009 2:38 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again. snip I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and that a port require substantial work. If so, that is a good thing and give some hope that it can be revived. The main issue about community is still a troublesome one, and IMHO a lot of blogosphere and article activities would be needed to get some attention to the project and hopefully some fresh souls. I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a Mentor role (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require little time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't review the code per se... Hi Niclas. If your still willing, can I add you in as a Mentor ? Thanks Gav... Cheers Niclas -- http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
-Original Message- From: Gavin [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Monday, 27 April 2009 2:46 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Getting Log4PHP going again. -Original Message- From: hedh...@gmail.com [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Niclas Hedhman Sent: Sunday, 22 March 2009 2:38 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again. snip I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and that a port require substantial work. If so, that is a good thing and give some hope that it can be revived. The main issue about community is still a troublesome one, and IMHO a lot of blogosphere and article activities would be needed to get some attention to the project and hopefully some fresh souls. I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a Mentor role (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require little time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't review the code per se... Hi Niclas. If your still willing, can I add you in as a Mentor ? And just to be clear here, the status page [1] list 3 mentors. Curt Arnold Scott Deboy Jim Jagielski Curt (logging PMC Chair) and Scott seem to be from the sponsoring project logging services so I don't want to get on their wrong side obviously, but I'm thinking that their priorities are elsewhere and not on this project (as neither have so far had time in the last couple of months to comment on this re-re-boot and have not committed to svn in 15 months) Therefore I'm proposing that those two be removed from their mentoring responsibilities and replaced with Niclas and a.n.other should one pop up (hint hint) There are also two committers listed Alvero Carrasco Knut Urdalen who seem busy with other stuff (having not committed at all in the 15 months I went back through svn) so would like to remove those from the committer list also. (It would be fantastic if any of the above I've suggested removing decide they do now have the time to help, but I am trying to start from a clean slate here, hope nobody is offended) [1] - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/log4php.html Thanks Gav... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
If we already have your iCLA, I will add you post-haste! I *wish* some threads were dying down :) On Apr 23, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Just want to confirm my interest in response. My apache id is grobmeier - feel free to add me to the log4php project :-) Cheers Christian On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Gavin ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: Hi All, Well things seem to be dying down here, ApacheCon well and truly over, board meeting is done and this thread celebrates 1 month today :) So, just checking in, can we do something about this Log4PHP revival ? Thanks Gav... -Original Message- From: Gavin [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 7:19 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Getting Log4PHP going again. -Original Message- From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobme...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 3:29 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again. Hi folks, any news on the log4php issue? I posted this thread originally on the 22nd, 1 day before ApacheCon week started, today is the first working day since ApacheCon ended. Incubator in general has been a ghost town during this time, so I expect (hope) that this will be picked up and acted on this week sometime. I have now been elected by Apache Commons as a Comitter and can help more easy now. Excellent, congrats! Is it possible to volunteer for comit access and help log4php directly? I hope that is the case, lets wait to here. To recap, we have now :- myself (gmcdonald) - (see start of thread for what I offered to do) Grobmeier - main code dude Niclas hedhman - has offered to mentor and commit patches as necessary. Jim is still a Mentor so we need one more. Looking forward to showing that the road to the attic is a two way street - we don't need to go that way! Gav... Best, Christian On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: The log4php code is quite stable, but since the last big changes some time has gone. PHP4, in which the code has been written, has reached the end of its life in august 2008. No development will be done here. I really think that we should finish the development of the php4 branch in log4php too and just do bugfixes, if necessary. For the php4 branch could have a incubator release quite soon, i guess. We should concentrate in PHP5 and for this we need helping hands and a bit time. I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and that a port require substantial work. If so, that is a good thing and give some hope that it can be revived. The main issue about community is still a troublesome one, and IMHO a lot of blogosphere and article activities would be needed to get some attention to the project and hopefully some fresh souls. I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a Mentor role (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require little time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't review the code per se... Cheers Niclas -- http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2028 - Release Date: 3/28/2009 7:16 AM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2028 - Release Date: 3/28/2009 7:16 AM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
-Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2009 12:54 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again. If we already have your iCLA, I will add you post-haste! I *wish* some threads were dying down :) Yeah, me too Im getting a headache. The 'other' threads may have fried your brain however. I note you added Christian to the project which is great, but you seem to have overlooked who started this thread and what he offered to do -- namely me. Although you are confident Christian can run the whole show on his own, this is still an Incubator project, there is much to do in the way of updating docs both on the log4php site pages and also its incubator related pages. One active committer can also have a hard time making a release which would be a goal to achieve over the next few months. Also, are you expecting Christian a relative newcomer to produce a log4php report to submit to incubator? If so fine with that. Read back through the thread and you'll also see we need to delete 2 mentors and add one in that volunteered, leaving us with needing one more still. Anyway, blah blah blah, either add me in or don't let me know either way. And I must say I'm really disappointed at some of the Incubator folk here who have chosen to completely ignore our pleas over the last month and a bit to restart this project, they are happy to bring new ones in from scratch but failed to help restart one already here.. Gav... On Apr 23, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Just want to confirm my interest in response. My apache id is grobmeier - feel free to add me to the log4php project :-) Cheers Christian On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Gavin ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: Hi All, Well things seem to be dying down here, ApacheCon well and truly over, board meeting is done and this thread celebrates 1 month today :) So, just checking in, can we do something about this Log4PHP revival ? Thanks Gav... -Original Message- From: Gavin [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 7:19 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Getting Log4PHP going again. -Original Message- From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobme...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 3:29 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again. Hi folks, any news on the log4php issue? I posted this thread originally on the 22nd, 1 day before ApacheCon week started, today is the first working day since ApacheCon ended. Incubator in general has been a ghost town during this time, so I expect (hope) that this will be picked up and acted on this week sometime. I have now been elected by Apache Commons as a Comitter and can help more easy now. Excellent, congrats! Is it possible to volunteer for comit access and help log4php directly? I hope that is the case, lets wait to here. To recap, we have now :- myself (gmcdonald) - (see start of thread for what I offered to do) Grobmeier - main code dude Niclas hedhman - has offered to mentor and commit patches as necessary. Jim is still a Mentor so we need one more. Looking forward to showing that the road to the attic is a two way street - we don't need to go that way! Gav... Best, Christian On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: The log4php code is quite stable, but since the last big changes some time has gone. PHP4, in which the code has been written, has reached the end of its life in august 2008. No development will be done here. I really think that we should finish the development of the php4 branch in log4php too and just do bugfixes, if necessary. For the php4 branch could have a incubator release quite soon, i guess. We should concentrate in PHP5 and for this we need helping hands and a bit time. I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and that a port require substantial work. If so, that is a good thing and give some hope that it can be revived. The main issue about community is still a troublesome one, and IMHO a lot of blogosphere and article activities would be needed to get some attention to the project and hopefully some fresh souls. I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a Mentor role (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require little time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't review the code per se... Cheers Niclas -- http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java
RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:25 +1000, Gavin wrote: -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2009 12:54 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again. If we already have your iCLA, I will add you post-haste! I *wish* some threads were dying down :) Yeah, me too Im getting a headache. The 'other' threads may have fried your brain however. I note you added Christian to the project which is great, but you seem to have overlooked who started this thread and what he offered to do -- namely me. Although you are confident Christian can run the whole show on his own, this is still an Incubator project, there is much to do in the way of updating docs both on the log4php site pages and also its incubator related pages. One active committer can also have a hard time making a release which would be a goal to achieve over the next few months. Also, are you expecting Christian a relative newcomer to produce a log4php report to submit to incubator? If so fine with that. Read back through the thread and you'll also see we need to delete 2 mentors and add one in that volunteered, leaving us with needing one more still. Anyway, blah blah blah, either add me in or don't let me know either way. And I must say I'm really disappointed at some of the Incubator folk here who have chosen to completely ignore our pleas over the last month and a bit to restart this project, they are happy to bring new ones in from scratch but failed to help restart one already here.. Hey Gav, Yeah, I suspect it did fry his brain. As far as I'm concerned, as a member, you can just volunteer, and that's it. However, for your votes to count, you should join the Incubator PMC. Send a mail to private@ saying you want to join. Then I'll add you to the committer list, if you don't add yourself first :-) Upayavira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
Just want to confirm my interest in response. My apache id is grobmeier - feel free to add me to the log4php project :-) Cheers Christian On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Gavin ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: Hi All, Well things seem to be dying down here, ApacheCon well and truly over, board meeting is done and this thread celebrates 1 month today :) So, just checking in, can we do something about this Log4PHP revival ? Thanks Gav... -Original Message- From: Gavin [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 7:19 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Getting Log4PHP going again. -Original Message- From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobme...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 3:29 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again. Hi folks, any news on the log4php issue? I posted this thread originally on the 22nd, 1 day before ApacheCon week started, today is the first working day since ApacheCon ended. Incubator in general has been a ghost town during this time, so I expect (hope) that this will be picked up and acted on this week sometime. I have now been elected by Apache Commons as a Comitter and can help more easy now. Excellent, congrats! Is it possible to volunteer for comit access and help log4php directly? I hope that is the case, lets wait to here. To recap, we have now :- myself (gmcdonald) - (see start of thread for what I offered to do) Grobmeier - main code dude Niclas hedhman - has offered to mentor and commit patches as necessary. Jim is still a Mentor so we need one more. Looking forward to showing that the road to the attic is a two way street - we don't need to go that way! Gav... Best, Christian On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: The log4php code is quite stable, but since the last big changes some time has gone. PHP4, in which the code has been written, has reached the end of its life in august 2008. No development will be done here. I really think that we should finish the development of the php4 branch in log4php too and just do bugfixes, if necessary. For the php4 branch could have a incubator release quite soon, i guess. We should concentrate in PHP5 and for this we need helping hands and a bit time. I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and that a port require substantial work. If so, that is a good thing and give some hope that it can be revived. The main issue about community is still a troublesome one, and IMHO a lot of blogosphere and article activities would be needed to get some attention to the project and hopefully some fresh souls. I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a Mentor role (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require little time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't review the code per se... Cheers Niclas -- http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2028 - Release Date: 3/28/2009 7:16 AM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2028 - Release Date: 3/28/2009 7:16 AM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
Hi All, Well things seem to be dying down here, ApacheCon well and truly over, board meeting is done and this thread celebrates 1 month today :) So, just checking in, can we do something about this Log4PHP revival ? Thanks Gav... -Original Message- From: Gavin [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 7:19 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Getting Log4PHP going again. -Original Message- From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobme...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 3:29 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again. Hi folks, any news on the log4php issue? I posted this thread originally on the 22nd, 1 day before ApacheCon week started, today is the first working day since ApacheCon ended. Incubator in general has been a ghost town during this time, so I expect (hope) that this will be picked up and acted on this week sometime. I have now been elected by Apache Commons as a Comitter and can help more easy now. Excellent, congrats! Is it possible to volunteer for comit access and help log4php directly? I hope that is the case, lets wait to here. To recap, we have now :- myself (gmcdonald) - (see start of thread for what I offered to do) Grobmeier - main code dude Niclas hedhman - has offered to mentor and commit patches as necessary. Jim is still a Mentor so we need one more. Looking forward to showing that the road to the attic is a two way street - we don't need to go that way! Gav... Best, Christian On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: The log4php code is quite stable, but since the last big changes some time has gone. PHP4, in which the code has been written, has reached the end of its life in august 2008. No development will be done here. I really think that we should finish the development of the php4 branch in log4php too and just do bugfixes, if necessary. For the php4 branch could have a incubator release quite soon, i guess. We should concentrate in PHP5 and for this we need helping hands and a bit time. I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and that a port require substantial work. If so, that is a good thing and give some hope that it can be revived. The main issue about community is still a troublesome one, and IMHO a lot of blogosphere and article activities would be needed to get some attention to the project and hopefully some fresh souls. I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a Mentor role (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require little time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't review the code per se... Cheers Niclas -- http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2028 - Release Date: 3/28/2009 7:16 AM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2028 - Release Date: 3/28/2009 7:16 AM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
-Original Message- From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobme...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 3:29 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again. Hi folks, any news on the log4php issue? I posted this thread originally on the 22nd, 1 day before ApacheCon week started, today is the first working day since ApacheCon ended. Incubator in general has been a ghost town during this time, so I expect (hope) that this will be picked up and acted on this week sometime. I have now been elected by Apache Commons as a Comitter and can help more easy now. Excellent, congrats! Is it possible to volunteer for comit access and help log4php directly? I hope that is the case, lets wait to here. To recap, we have now :- myself (gmcdonald) - (see start of thread for what I offered to do) Grobmeier - main code dude Niclas hedhman - has offered to mentor and commit patches as necessary. Jim is still a Mentor so we need one more. Looking forward to showing that the road to the attic is a two way street - we don't need to go that way! Gav... Best, Christian On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: The log4php code is quite stable, but since the last big changes some time has gone. PHP4, in which the code has been written, has reached the end of its life in august 2008. No development will be done here. I really think that we should finish the development of the php4 branch in log4php too and just do bugfixes, if necessary. For the php4 branch could have a incubator release quite soon, i guess. We should concentrate in PHP5 and for this we need helping hands and a bit time. I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and that a port require substantial work. If so, that is a good thing and give some hope that it can be revived. The main issue about community is still a troublesome one, and IMHO a lot of blogosphere and article activities would be needed to get some attention to the project and hopefully some fresh souls. I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a Mentor role (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require little time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't review the code per se... Cheers Niclas -- http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2028 - Release Date: 3/28/2009 7:16 AM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
Just barely getting my head back above water after aceu09 but Yes, I'd like this to happen. Cycles free up later this week when I return from San Mateo. On Mar 21, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Gavin wrote: Hi All, I'd like to know what is best to do to get Log4PHP going again. Basically, I'm offering to step in and do the admin/patch-work that needs to happen to keep it ticking along etc. We have Christian Grobmeier waiting in the wings providing patches etc, using the mailing lists and Issue Tracker (on his lonesome currently) and I don't want to see him get bored and go away. The status page (http://incubator.apache.org/projects/log4php.html) is woefully out of date, however some names are there I assume from the last re-boot of the project back in 2007. Of the 3 mentors it seems Jim has been the only one doing anything since June last year, and I can't see anything in svn from the 2 committers for the 2 years I've gone back. So, what is the way forward here, I'm thinking we need 2 new mentors - as long as Jim is happy to remain the third. the two committers mentioned can go also. I'm happy to jump in as committer and do the stuff of applying patches, updating the website, the status page, getting the ball rolling on looking forwards to an initial incubator release. Advice welcome, can we do something about this soon? Gav... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
Hi folks, any news on the log4php issue? I have now been elected by Apache Commons as a Comitter and can help more easy now. Is it possible to volunteer for comit access and help log4php directly? Best, Christian On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: The log4php code is quite stable, but since the last big changes some time has gone. PHP4, in which the code has been written, has reached the end of its life in august 2008. No development will be done here. I really think that we should finish the development of the php4 branch in log4php too and just do bugfixes, if necessary. For the php4 branch could have a incubator release quite soon, i guess. We should concentrate in PHP5 and for this we need helping hands and a bit time. I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and that a port require substantial work. If so, that is a good thing and give some hope that it can be revived. The main issue about community is still a troublesome one, and IMHO a lot of blogosphere and article activities would be needed to get some attention to the project and hopefully some fresh souls. I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a Mentor role (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require little time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't review the code per se... Cheers Niclas -- http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
We should concentrate in PHP5 and for this we need helping hands and a bit time. I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and that a port require substantial work. Incompatibility is true when running PHP4 and PHP5 in the same apache instance. But PHP4 syntax runs with a PHP5 interpreter (mostly - just a few issues). However, current codebase cannot run in PHP4 since some classes allready have PHP5 syntax while some others are not. I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a Mentor role (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require little time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't review the code per se... Thanks! Gav can help with reviews i guess and I allready wrote lots of PHP code. Hopefully code comes allready in with a good condition. Cheers, Christian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
Hi, Basically, I'm offering to step in and do the admin/patch-work that needs to happen to keep it ticking along etc. We have Christian Grobmeier waiting in the wings providing patches etc, using the mailing lists and Issue Tracker (on his lonesome currently) and I don't want to see him get bored and go away. thank you very much for jumping in and your help! So, what is the way forward here, I'm thinking we need 2 new mentors - as long as Jim is happy to remain the third. the two committers mentioned can go also. I'm happy to jump in as committer and do the stuff of applying patches, updating the website, the status page, getting the ball rolling on looking forwards to an initial incubator release. Advice welcome, can we do something about this soon? The log4php code is quite stable, but since the last big changes some time has gone. PHP4, in which the code has been written, has reached the end of its life in august 2008. No development will be done here. I really think that we should finish the development of the php4 branch in log4php too and just do bugfixes, if necessary. For the php4 branch could have a incubator release quite soon, i guess. We should concentrate in PHP5 and for this we need helping hands and a bit time. I really think that we can get lots of patches like the Shindig community does. But to get this ball rolling, we need to tell people what they can contribute. I consider a Wiki the best place to document the roadmap. Can log4php have a Wiki please? I keep on getting personal messages from interested PHP-developers. If we would have a wiki I could tell them what tasks need to be done. Of course I have pointed em to the mailinglists. But it looks like PHP-devs are a shy folk :-) I also asked on the log4php list if there are interested people for the GSoC. If it is possible for an incubation project to participate, maybe somebody can help me to get this introduced in the apache way. Best regards, Christian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
Hi again, The log4php code is quite stable, but since the last big changes some time has gone. PHP4, in which the code has been written, has reached the end of its life in august 2008. No development will be done here. I really think that we should finish the development of the php4 branch in log4php too and just do bugfixes, if necessary. For the php4 branch could have a incubator release quite soon, i guess. sorry for beeing noisy - but i just figured out that lots of the code has allready php5 syntax. It was confusing since all examples and tutorials use php4 syntax and a folder named php5 is checked in but empty. Well, a Wiki would be still nice :-) Christian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: I also asked on the log4php list if there are interested people for the GSoC. If it is possible for an incubation project to participate, maybe somebody can help me to get this introduced in the apache way. Yes, Incubator Projects are able to participate in GSoC, feel free to add ideas to [1]. The only issue is that mentors, need to be Apache Members or Committers, but maybe you can get one of your mentors to become a mentor if students get interested in log4php project ideas. [1] http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2009 -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany, Apache PhotArk http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: The log4php code is quite stable, but since the last big changes some time has gone. PHP4, in which the code has been written, has reached the end of its life in august 2008. No development will be done here. I really think that we should finish the development of the php4 branch in log4php too and just do bugfixes, if necessary. For the php4 branch could have a incubator release quite soon, i guess. We should concentrate in PHP5 and for this we need helping hands and a bit time. I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and that a port require substantial work. If so, that is a good thing and give some hope that it can be revived. The main issue about community is still a troublesome one, and IMHO a lot of blogosphere and article activities would be needed to get some attention to the project and hopefully some fresh souls. I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a Mentor role (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require little time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't review the code per se... Cheers Niclas -- http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
