Re: Growth Summary

2005-12-24 Thread Jim Jagielski


On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

--On December 23, 2005 12:47:26 PM -0500 Jim Jagielski  
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   Q: The Incubator controls who leaves... who controls who
  enters? It seems like both are needed.
   A: Yes, and there are controls for who enters as well.
  Applicants must be sponsored by a current PMC, or
  the board. There is currently some discussion on


I thought the Board delegated the initial proposal approval of new  
TLP projects (i.e. no sponsoring PMC) to the Incubator PMC?  As a  
checkpoint, the Board will certify the *exit* of podling's TLPs  
after the Incubator certifies again.  When a project has PMC  
approval, the Incubaotr PMC alone can do the certification of exit.




The board has always reserved the right to sponsor a new project. That
doesn't go away, even when we want the Incubator to do it.

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Re: Growth Summary

2005-12-23 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On December 23, 2005 12:47:26 PM -0500 Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



   Q: The Incubator controls who leaves... who controls who
  enters? It seems like both are needed.
   A: Yes, and there are controls for who enters as well.
  Applicants must be sponsored by a current PMC, or
  the board. There is currently some discussion on


I thought the Board delegated the initial proposal approval of new TLP 
projects (i.e. no sponsoring PMC) to the Incubator PMC?  As a checkpoint, 
the Board will certify the *exit* of podling's TLPs after the Incubator 
certifies again.  When a project has PMC approval, the Incubaotr PMC alone 
can do the certification of exit.


Nice synergy there, methinks.  -- justin

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Re: Growth Summary

2005-12-23 Thread Sam Ruby

Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On December 23, 2005 12:47:26 PM -0500 Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



   Q: The Incubator controls who leaves... who controls who
  enters? It seems like both are needed.
   A: Yes, and there are controls for who enters as well.
  Applicants must be sponsored by a current PMC, or
  the board. There is currently some discussion on


I thought the Board delegated the initial proposal approval of new TLP 
projects (i.e. no sponsoring PMC) to the Incubator PMC?  As a 
checkpoint, the Board will certify the *exit* of podling's TLPs after 
the Incubator certifies again.  When a project has PMC approval, the 
Incubaotr PMC alone can do the certification of exit.


It effectively works out that way.

As a current PMC, the incubator can sponsor a proposal.  In fact, the 
incubator policy[1] explicitly calls out this case.


I don't expect the board to ever sponsor a project again - but then 
again the board hasn't given up the right to do so.


- Sam Ruby

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Sponsor


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