Re: Looking for mentors

[Jochen Wiedmann]

I worked as a mentor before in projects like VXQuery, or AsterixDB.
I'd be ready to do the same for Juneau. However, AFAIK, I don't
qualify nowadays. (In the past, it was sufficient to be a member, this
has to be changed to be an Incubator PMC member.)

Jochen


On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:38 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
> All,
>
> Speaking on behalf of the to-be-proposed Juneau project, I wanted to reach
> out to the broader community to see interest in getting mentors setup for
> this project.
>
> You can find the proposal here:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JuneauProposal
>
> John



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Re: Looking for mentors

[Sergio Fernández]

(Off-topic) At some point we may need to discuss our incubation capacity...
People present cool proposal and they get vote just because that, without
checking our available resources.

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:38 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:

> All,
>
> Speaking on behalf of the to-be-proposed Juneau project, I wanted to reach
> out to the broader community to see interest in getting mentors setup for
> this project.
>
> You can find the proposal here:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JuneauProposal
>
> John
>



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Re: Looking for mentors

[John D. Ament]

Jochen,

I'd be happy to have you on board.  Sounds like a step was missed in your
setup though.  As a foundation member, you're welcome to join the IPMC at
any time.  Feel free to drop a mail to private@ requesting to be added and
it will be processed.  AFAIK this has been the case for a long while.

John


On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 1:51 AM Jochen Wiedmann 
wrote:

> I worked as a mentor before in projects like VXQuery, or AsterixDB.
> I'd be ready to do the same for Juneau. However, AFAIK, I don't
> qualify nowadays. (In the past, it was sufficient to be a member, this
> has to be changed to be an Incubator PMC member.)
>
> Jochen
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:38 AM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > Speaking on behalf of the to-be-proposed Juneau project, I wanted to
> reach
> > out to the broader community to see interest in getting mentors setup for
> > this project.
> >
> > You can find the proposal here:
> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JuneauProposal
> >
> > John
>
>
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Re: Looking for mentors

[John D. Ament]

The funny thing is, considering the number of IPMC members, our capacity
should be much higher.  The problem is the lack of active IPMC members to
field support.

John

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:02 AM Sergio Fernández  wrote:

> (Off-topic) At some point we may need to discuss our incubation capacity...
> People present cool proposal and they get vote just because that, without
> checking our available resources.
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:38 AM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > Speaking on behalf of the to-be-proposed Juneau project, I wanted to
> reach
> > out to the broader community to see interest in getting mentors setup for
> > this project.
> >
> > You can find the proposal here:
> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JuneauProposal
> >
> > John
> >
>
>
>
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> Redlink GmbH
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Re: Looking for mentors

[Marvin Humphrey]

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:01 AM, Sergio Fernández  wrote:
> (Off-topic) At some point we may need to discuss our incubation capacity...
> People present cool proposal and they get vote just because that, without
> checking our available resources.

Incubation capacity is limited by total Mentoring capacity across all
podlings, and by our ability to cover central administration.

With regards to central administration, even at ~55 podlings, we are still
mostly managing to cover what's needed:

* Spare release voting capacity (Justin Mclean, John Ament)
* Report preparation (John, Marvin)
* Followup after troubled podlings (John)
* Administrivia (John, Marvin, Ted, Nick Burch)
* Mediation (Ted, Marvin, others)
* Relief Mentors (...)

Happily, responsibility is more spread out than it used to be -- Jukka was the
first line of defense for nearly all of those when he was Chair.  We are
heavily dependent on both John and Justin and would struggle to replace their
contributions, but for the moment we are holding -- with the one weakness
being that when a podling needs relief Mentors there are few to be had.

Total Mentoring capacity is hard to assess.  We keep adding awesome new IPMC
members, and sometimes new podlings will persuade high-quality inactive IPMC
Members to return to active duty.  But we do appear to be getting more
stretched as strong proposals keep pouring in.

In recent times, the Incubator has not been voting to accept podlings that
have an inadequate *number* of Mentors.  However, we have for many years had
podlings where several of the Mentors do not do much beyond lend their name to
the proposal.

Overstretched mentoring has always been a concern, but I think it is becoming
a bit more of a concern now as podlings struggle more to recruit Mentors --
perhaps tempting already overcommitted Mentors to strech even further, or
necessitating the recruitment of rookies from the ASF Membership with no
Incubator experience.

As a mitigation, I think we should be paying a little more attention to the
Mentor roster in new proposals.  One simple report would tell us a lot -- just
list all the podlings that each proposed Mentor is already signed up for.

If there are concerns that any of the proposed Mentors are overcommitted, it
would be appropriate to raise them on private@incubator.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: Looking for mentors

[Julian Hyde]

I strongly believe that one or two people from each graduating podling should 
serve as mentors soon after graduation. It's totally up to them, of course. But 
it is appropriate to give back, having received help from so many volunteers 
during incubation. And, having just been through the experience, they are in a 
good position to give advice. 

Julian

> On Jun 9, 2016, at 19:44, Marvin Humphrey  wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:01 AM, Sergio Fernández  wrote:
>> (Off-topic) At some point we may need to discuss our incubation capacity...
>> People present cool proposal and they get vote just because that, without
>> checking our available resources.
> 
> Incubation capacity is limited by total Mentoring capacity across all
> podlings, and by our ability to cover central administration.
> 
> With regards to central administration, even at ~55 podlings, we are still
> mostly managing to cover what's needed:
> 
> * Spare release voting capacity (Justin Mclean, John Ament)
> * Report preparation (John, Marvin)
> * Followup after troubled podlings (John)
> * Administrivia (John, Marvin, Ted, Nick Burch)
> * Mediation (Ted, Marvin, others)
> * Relief Mentors (...)
> 
> Happily, responsibility is more spread out than it used to be -- Jukka was the
> first line of defense for nearly all of those when he was Chair.  We are
> heavily dependent on both John and Justin and would struggle to replace their
> contributions, but for the moment we are holding -- with the one weakness
> being that when a podling needs relief Mentors there are few to be had.
> 
> Total Mentoring capacity is hard to assess.  We keep adding awesome new IPMC
> members, and sometimes new podlings will persuade high-quality inactive IPMC
> Members to return to active duty.  But we do appear to be getting more
> stretched as strong proposals keep pouring in.
> 
> In recent times, the Incubator has not been voting to accept podlings that
> have an inadequate *number* of Mentors.  However, we have for many years had
> podlings where several of the Mentors do not do much beyond lend their name to
> the proposal.
> 
> Overstretched mentoring has always been a concern, but I think it is becoming
> a bit more of a concern now as podlings struggle more to recruit Mentors --
> perhaps tempting already overcommitted Mentors to strech even further, or
> necessitating the recruitment of rookies from the ASF Membership with no
> Incubator experience.
> 
> As a mitigation, I think we should be paying a little more attention to the
> Mentor roster in new proposals.  One simple report would tell us a lot -- just
> list all the podlings that each proposed Mentor is already signed up for.
> 
> If there are concerns that any of the proposed Mentors are overcommitted, it
> would be appropriate to raise them on private@incubator.
> 
> Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Looking for mentors

[Sravya Tirukkovalur]

Agree that podlings which have recently graduated might be able to provide
good advice having just been through the experience.

Although, how common is it to have IPMCs in the newly graduated podlings?
Is there a way for folks who are not IPMCs yet to give back in terms of
informally mentoring specific projects?

I get a sense that there is also a notion of informal mentors from this
section[1]

"There is no restriction on the number of informal mentors (note the small m)
that a Podling may have. These can be very useful but have no formal role
in the process."

But, not sure who is eligible to be an informal mentor and how does this
mentoring relation work?

Thanks in advance!

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#template-mentors

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 3:05 AM, Julian Hyde  wrote:

> I strongly believe that one or two people from each graduating podling
> should serve as mentors soon after graduation. It's totally up to them, of
> course. But it is appropriate to give back, having received help from so
> many volunteers during incubation. And, having just been through the
> experience, they are in a good position to give advice.
>
> Julian
>
> > On Jun 9, 2016, at 19:44, Marvin Humphrey 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:01 AM, Sergio Fernández 
> wrote:
> >> (Off-topic) At some point we may need to discuss our incubation
> capacity...
> >> People present cool proposal and they get vote just because that,
> without
> >> checking our available resources.
> >
> > Incubation capacity is limited by total Mentoring capacity across all
> > podlings, and by our ability to cover central administration.
> >
> > With regards to central administration, even at ~55 podlings, we are
> still
> > mostly managing to cover what's needed:
> >
> > * Spare release voting capacity (Justin Mclean, John Ament)
> > * Report preparation (John, Marvin)
> > * Followup after troubled podlings (John)
> > * Administrivia (John, Marvin, Ted, Nick Burch)
> > * Mediation (Ted, Marvin, others)
> > * Relief Mentors (...)
> >
> > Happily, responsibility is more spread out than it used to be -- Jukka
> was the
> > first line of defense for nearly all of those when he was Chair.  We are
> > heavily dependent on both John and Justin and would struggle to replace
> their
> > contributions, but for the moment we are holding -- with the one weakness
> > being that when a podling needs relief Mentors there are few to be had.
> >
> > Total Mentoring capacity is hard to assess.  We keep adding awesome new
> IPMC
> > members, and sometimes new podlings will persuade high-quality inactive
> IPMC
> > Members to return to active duty.  But we do appear to be getting more
> > stretched as strong proposals keep pouring in.
> >
> > In recent times, the Incubator has not been voting to accept podlings
> that
> > have an inadequate *number* of Mentors.  However, we have for many years
> had
> > podlings where several of the Mentors do not do much beyond lend their
> name to
> > the proposal.
> >
> > Overstretched mentoring has always been a concern, but I think it is
> becoming
> > a bit more of a concern now as podlings struggle more to recruit Mentors
> --
> > perhaps tempting already overcommitted Mentors to strech even further, or
> > necessitating the recruitment of rookies from the ASF Membership with no
> > Incubator experience.
> >
> > As a mitigation, I think we should be paying a little more attention to
> the
> > Mentor roster in new proposals.  One simple report would tell us a lot
> -- just
> > list all the podlings that each proposed Mentor is already signed up for.
> >
> > If there are concerns that any of the proposed Mentors are
> overcommitted, it
> > would be appropriate to raise them on private@incubator.
> >
> > Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Looking for mentors

[Roman Shaposhnik]

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Sergio Fernández  wrote:
> (Off-topic) At some point we may need to discuss our incubation capacity...
> People present cool proposal and they get vote just because that, without
> checking our available resources.

FWIW: I'm still a big fan of having a cap on the # of podlings a single mentor
could have (at which point Incubator capacity becomes a self-throttling one).
But given discussions as of 9 month I don't think this idea enjoys much of IPMC
support.

Thanks,
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Re: Looking for mentors

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> FWIW: I'm still a big fan of having a cap on the # of podlings a single mentor
> could have 

I have a self imposed cap and I’m currently at capacity so sorry can’t help out.

Thanks,
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Re: Looking for mentors

[Roman Shaposhnik]

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 3:37 AM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> FWIW: I'm still a big fan of having a cap on the # of podlings a single 
>> mentor
>> could have
>
> I have a self imposed cap and I’m currently at capacity so sorry can’t help 
> out.

Yup. Make two of us!

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: Looking for mentors

[Julian Hyde]

If each graduating podling provided 2 or 3 mentors (or one person prepared to 
mentor 2 or 3 projects) the problem would be solved. It would be a (virtuous) 
pyramid scheme and the incubator could grow indefinitely. 

Julian

> On Jun 11, 2016, at 18:40, Roman Shaposhnik  wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 3:37 AM, Justin Mclean  
>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> FWIW: I'm still a big fan of having a cap on the # of podlings a single 
>>> mentor
>>> could have
>> 
>> I have a self imposed cap and I’m currently at capacity so sorry can’t help 
>> out.
> 
> Yup. Make two of us!
> 
> Thanks,
> Roman.
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Re: Looking for mentors

[John D. Ament]

The Incubator PMC has 242 members.  Assuming 3 mentors per project that
means we would need 80 projects before duplicating a member, given that
each PMC member acted as a mentor.
On Jun 11, 2016 21:46, "Julian Hyde"  wrote:

> If each graduating podling provided 2 or 3 mentors (or one person prepared
> to mentor 2 or 3 projects) the problem would be solved. It would be a
> (virtuous) pyramid scheme and the incubator could grow indefinitely.
>
> Julian
>
> > On Jun 11, 2016, at 18:40, Roman Shaposhnik 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 3:37 AM, Justin Mclean <
> jus...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>> FWIW: I'm still a big fan of having a cap on the # of podlings a
> single mentor
> >>> could have
> >>
> >> I have a self imposed cap and I’m currently at capacity so sorry can’t
> help out.
> >
> > Yup. Make two of us!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Roman.
> >
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Re: Looking for mentors

[Roman Shaposhnik]

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Julian Hyde  wrote:
> If each graduating podling provided 2 or 3 mentors (or one person prepared to 
> mentor 2 or 3 projects)
> the problem would be solved. It would be a (virtuous) pyramid scheme and the 
> incubator could grow indefinitely.

Good point. At least making sure that we do a bit of nagging during
the graduation could
go a long way. That said, we still have IPMC-mostly-only-for-members
issue and by definition
podlings are typically new folks.

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: Looking for mentors

[John D. Ament]

On Jun 11, 2016 21:37, "Justin Mclean"  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > FWIW: I'm still a big fan of having a cap on the # of podlings a single
mentor
> > could have
>
> I have a self imposed cap and I’m currently at capacity so sorry can’t
help out.

Perfect point, everyone has their own internal cap that indicates
capacity.  People need to be realistic about their availability.

>
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: Looking for mentors

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> If each graduating podling provided 2 or 3 mentors (or one person prepared to 
> mentor 2 or 3 projects) the problem would be solved.

Not all graduating projects have people who can act in an official mentor role 
i.e. you need to be IPMC and that generally means being a member.

Justin
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Re: Looking for mentors

[Pierre Smits]

'and that generally means being a member'

^ rethink that and there might be possibilities to lift the pressure.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

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wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > If each graduating podling provided 2 or 3 mentors (or one person
> prepared to mentor 2 or 3 projects) the problem would be solved.
>
> Not all graduating projects have people who can act in an official mentor
> role i.e. you need to be IPMC and that generally means being a member.
>
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Re: Looking for mentors for Flex

[Erwan de FERRIERES]

Le 21/12/2011 17:52, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit :

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 4:41 PM, erwan.deferrie...@gmail.com
  wrote:
...

I'm willing to volunteer as a mentor as well.


Thanks but you need to be an Incubator PMC member for that. ASF
members get that membership just by asking. Committers on top-level
ASF projects might qualify as well, but they need to be elected to the
Incubator PMC.

Hi Bertrand,
as you were stating you were also looking for committers, it's why I 
volunteered. I've also read that a committer need to be elected to the 
Incubator PMC, so I'll wait until that. And then become, as you said, a 
"junior" mentor !


Cheers,




(as stated before, and see [1] as well).

-Bertrand

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html

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Re: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator)

[Greg Reddin]

Hi Bertrand,

I am very interested in this project as it is something we use regularly in my 
daily work. I'd probably qualify as a junior mentor since I've only mentored 
one other podling to date. But I'll add my name to the list. 

Thanks,
Greg

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On Dec 21, 2011, at 4:27 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz  wrote:

> Hi Incubator PMC and ASF members,
> 
> In case you missed my earlier call: we are still looking for mentors
> for http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FlexProposal
> 
> Given the size of the codebase and the large list of initial
> committers, it would be good to have at least one or two additional
> experienced mentors.
> 
> It's also a good opportunity for ASF members (or committers - but
> those need to be voted in as Incubator PMC members first) who haven't
> been mentors yet to join as "junior" mentors and help while learning
> the ropes.
> 
> -Bertrand (Flex champion and mentor)
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Re: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator)

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Greg Reddin  wrote:
> ...I am very interested in this project as it is something we use regularly 
> in my daily work. I'd probably qualify as a junior mentor since I've only 
> mentored one other podling to date. But I'll add my name to the list

Great,thanks!

Note that I didn't mean to build a hierarchy between mentors with the
"junior" thing - it's more about encouraging new people to jump in.
You'll be a mentor, period ;-)

-Bertrand

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RE: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator)

[Douglas Arthur]

Hi Bertrand,

I'm willing to learn if the need continues to exist, but I have not 
participated in previous ASF projects - so I'm sure I have a lot to learn. I'm 
very excited about the project, so I want to do everything I can do to help it 
mature and be successful!

- Doug

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Subject: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache 
Incubator)

Hi Incubator PMC and ASF members,

In case you missed my earlier call: we are still looking for mentors for 
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FlexProposal

Given the size of the codebase and the large list of initial committers, it 
would be good to have at least one or two additional experienced mentors.

It's also a good opportunity for ASF members (or committers - but those need to 
be voted in as Incubator PMC members first) who haven't been mentors yet to 
join as "junior" mentors and help while learning the ropes.

-Bertrand (Flex champion and mentor)

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Re: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator)

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi Doug,

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Douglas Arthur  wrote:
> ...I'm willing to learn if the need continues to exist, but I have not 
> participated in previous
> ASF projects - so I'm sure I have a lot to learn. I'm very excited about the 
> project, so I want
> to do everything I can do to help it mature and be successful!...

Ok - as you are (going to be) a new Apache committer (I see you are
listed on the Flex proposal) you cannot be an incubation mentor [1] at
this time, but you're of course welcome to help in the day-to-day
operation of Apache Flex once it gets going.

Looking forward to this and to your participation!

-Bertrand

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html




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> From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacre...@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:27 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache 
> Incubator)
>
> Hi Incubator PMC and ASF members,
>
> In case you missed my earlier call: we are still looking for mentors for 
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FlexProposal
>
> Given the size of the codebase and the large list of initial committers, it 
> would be good to have at least one or two additional experienced mentors.
>
> It's also a good opportunity for ASF members (or committers - but those need 
> to be voted in as Incubator PMC members first) who haven't been mentors yet 
> to join as "junior" mentors and help while learning the ropes.
>
> -Bertrand (Flex champion and mentor)
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RE: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator)

[erwan.deferrie...@gmail.com]

Hi,
I'm willing to volunteer as a mentor as well.

Regards
-- 
Envoyé de mon téléphone Android avec K-9 Mail. Excusez la brièveté.


Douglas Arthur  a écrit :

Hi Bertrand,

I'm willing to learn if the need continues to exist, but I have not 
participated in previous ASF projects - so I'm sure I have a lot to learn. I'm 
very excited about the project, so I want to do everything I can do to help it 
mature and be successful!

- Doug

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From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacre...@apache.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:27 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache 
Incubator)

Hi Incubator PMC and ASF members,

In case you missed my earlier call: we are still looking for mentors for 
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FlexProposal

Given the size of the codebase and the large list of initial committers, it 
would be good to have at least one or two additional experienced mentors.

It's also a good opportunity for ASF members (or committers - but those need to 
be voted in as Incubator PMC members first) who haven't been mentors yet to 
join as "junior" mentors and help while learning the ropes.

-Bertrand (Flex champion and mentor)

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Re: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator)

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 4:41 PM, erwan.deferrie...@gmail.com
 wrote:
...
> I'm willing to volunteer as a mentor as well.

Thanks but you need to be an Incubator PMC member for that. ASF
members get that membership just by asking. Committers on top-level
ASF projects might qualify as well, but they need to be elected to the
Incubator PMC.

(as stated before, and see [1] as well).

-Bertrand

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html

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Re: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator)

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Bertrand,

If there are some experienced Mentors added and I am elected to the Incubator 
PMC, I would be willing to be a "Junior" Mentor.

I've been on the Apache POI PMC for a few years - a small group with a widely 
used library, and for the past 6 months I've been active on the OpenOffice 
podling PPMC and all the fun that has entailed.

I'm very interested in Flex as a platform especially now that it is at the ASF.

Regards,
Dave Fisher (w...@apache.org)

On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:27 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

> Hi Incubator PMC and ASF members,
> 
> In case you missed my earlier call: we are still looking for mentors
> for http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FlexProposal
> 
> Given the size of the codebase and the large list of initial
> committers, it would be good to have at least one or two additional
> experienced mentors.
> 
> It's also a good opportunity for ASF members (or committers - but
> those need to be voted in as Incubator PMC members first) who haven't
> been mentors yet to join as "junior" mentors and help while learning
> the ropes.
> 
> -Bertrand (Flex champion and mentor)
> 
> -
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Re: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator)

[Ross Gardler]

On 21 December 2011 21:31, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> Hi Bertrand,
>
> If there are some experienced Mentors added and I am elected to the Incubator 
> PMC, I would be willing to be a "Junior" Mentor.
>

Ha!!!

+1 for Dave. He's on AOO and anyone around there for more than two
weeks has learned more than many of us learn on taking any other
project to graduation.

Ross

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Re: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator)

[Anne Kathrine Petterøe]

Hi Bertrand,

I am very interested in joining as a mentor.
Right now I am a committer on Apache ESME and a PPMC member, so I
would have to be elected to the incubator PMC first.
I learned a lot from Apache ESME's incubation time and would like to
deepen my involvement at ASF and help Apache Flex be a success.

/Anne

On 21 December 2011 23:14, Ross Gardler  wrote:
> On 21 December 2011 21:31, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> Hi Bertrand,
>>
>> If there are some experienced Mentors added and I am elected to the 
>> Incubator PMC, I would be willing to be a "Junior" Mentor.
>>
>
> Ha!!!
>
> +1 for Dave. He's on AOO and anyone around there for more than two
> weeks has learned more than many of us learn on taking any other
> project to graduation.
>
> Ross
>
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Re: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator)

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi Anne,

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
 wrote:
> ...I am very interested in joining as a mentor.
> Right now I am a committer on Apache ESME and a PPMC member, so I
> would have to be elected to the incubator PMC first.
> I learned a lot from Apache ESME's incubation time and would like to
> deepen my involvement at ASF and help Apache Flex be a success

Great! I remember the great job you did during ESME incubation, agree
that it would be good to have you as a mentor for Flex.

Like Dave, you need to be voted in on the Incubator PMC to be a
mentor, I'll start that discussion and then vote on the incubator
private list.

-Bertrand

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Re: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator)

[Peter Elst]

Having Anne as a mentor would be fantastic - thanks for volunteering, hope
you can make it in!

Think its a definite plus to have some mentors with a solid background
knowledge of Flex and the existing community.

- Peter


On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
wrote:

> Hi Bertrand,
>
> I am very interested in joining as a mentor.
> Right now I am a committer on Apache ESME and a PPMC member, so I
> would have to be elected to the incubator PMC first.
> I learned a lot from Apache ESME's incubation time and would like to
> deepen my involvement at ASF and help Apache Flex be a success.
>
> /Anne
>
> On 21 December 2011 23:14, Ross Gardler 
> wrote:
> > On 21 December 2011 21:31, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> >> Hi Bertrand,
> >>
> >> If there are some experienced Mentors added and I am elected to the
> Incubator PMC, I would be willing to be a "Junior" Mentor.
> >>
> >
> > Ha!!!
> >
> > +1 for Dave. He's on AOO and anyone around there for more than two
> > weeks has learned more than many of us learn on taking any other
> > project to graduation.
> >
> > Ross
> >
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Re: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator)

[Dirk Eismann]

I'm neither committer nor contributor (yet) but I follow all discussions
here concerning Flex very closely. Having Anne as a mentor for Flex would
really be great.

Thanks,
Dirk.


2011/12/22 Peter Elst 

> Having Anne as a mentor would be fantastic - thanks for volunteering, hope
> you can make it in!
>
> Think its a definite plus to have some mentors with a solid background
> knowledge of Flex and the existing community.
>
> - Peter
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Bertrand,
> >
> > I am very interested in joining as a mentor.
> > Right now I am a committer on Apache ESME and a PPMC member, so I
> > would have to be elected to the incubator PMC first.
> > I learned a lot from Apache ESME's incubation time and would like to
> > deepen my involvement at ASF and help Apache Flex be a success.
> >
> > /Anne
> >
> > On 21 December 2011 23:14, Ross Gardler 
> > wrote:
> > > On 21 December 2011 21:31, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> > >> Hi Bertrand,
> > >>
> > >> If there are some experienced Mentors added and I am elected to the
> > Incubator PMC, I would be willing to be a "Junior" Mentor.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Ha!!!
> > >
> > > +1 for Dave. He's on AOO and anyone around there for more than two
> > > weeks has learned more than many of us learn on taking any other
> > > project to graduation.
> > >
> > > Ross
> > >
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