Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-21 Thread Andy Seaborne

On 17/07/13 06:49, Ross Gardler wrote:

Ross Gardler   Marmotta

Looks good. Releases made, Committers brought in. Mentors appear to be
watching. Recommend mentors consider graduation sooner rather than later.


The mentors have. The podling is reluctant to leave the nest :-)

(This mentor is now in standby mode)

Andy


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Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-18 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
 I was their shepherd three months ago. I remained subscribed to the dev list
 and it feels more active in the last three months, but only slightly.

 Tashi's situation doesn't seem to be changing much month-by-month.  I'm more
 concerned about VXQuery, which included this comment in their report:

Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?

  It would be great to have more active mentors.

 I think mentoring is needed, but it is more likely that there is not really
 a community.

 We have three choices.

 - Continue as now.
 - Mentor reboot.
 - Retirement.

 This is not the first time VXQuery's status has been discussed.

Thanks for stepping up, Dave!  Let's see how the the discussion of their
report plays out now that a separate thread has been launched.

By the way, the increased volume of shepherd notes embedded in the report this
month in comparison to prior months was a hit with the Board.  Thanks to
everyone who took part.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-17 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
 Ross Gardler   DeviceMap

 Project is in good shape and operating well. Ramping up for a release.
 Active mentor engagement where needed.

 Ross Gardler   Marmotta

 Looks good. Releases made, Committers brought in. Mentors appear to be
 watching. Recommend mentors consider graduation sooner rather than later.

 Ross Gardler   Ripple

 Progressing well. Legal issues to address before a relase can be made. Good
 mentor involvement

Thanks, Ross!  Glad to hear that they're all doing well.

We missed a few shepherding opportunities this month:

Celix
Falcon
MetaModel
MRQL
Provisionr
Spark
Tashi
VXQuery

However, of the podlings in that list, most had reports with Mentors signing
off.  There are only two which received no IPMC review at all:

Tashi -- didn't report
VXQuery -- reported but has no Mentor sign off or shepherd notes

Tashi's situation doesn't seem to be changing much month-by-month.  I'm more
concerned about VXQuery, which included this comment in their report:

Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?

  It would be great to have more active mentors.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-17 Thread Dave Fisher

On Jul 17, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Ross Gardler
 rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
 Ross Gardler   DeviceMap
 
 Project is in good shape and operating well. Ramping up for a release.
 Active mentor engagement where needed.
 
 Ross Gardler   Marmotta
 
 Looks good. Releases made, Committers brought in. Mentors appear to be
 watching. Recommend mentors consider graduation sooner rather than later.
 
 Ross Gardler   Ripple
 
 Progressing well. Legal issues to address before a relase can be made. Good
 mentor involvement
 
 Thanks, Ross!  Glad to hear that they're all doing well.
 
 We missed a few shepherding opportunities this month:
 
Celix
Falcon
MetaModel
MRQL
Provisionr
Spark
Tashi
VXQuery
 
 However, of the podlings in that list, most had reports with Mentors signing
 off.  There are only two which received no IPMC review at all:
 
Tashi -- didn't report
VXQuery -- reported but has no Mentor sign off or shepherd notes

I was their shepherd three months ago. I remained subscribed to the dev list 
and it feels more active in the last three months, but only slightly.

 
 Tashi's situation doesn't seem to be changing much month-by-month.  I'm more
 concerned about VXQuery, which included this comment in their report:
 
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
 
  It would be great to have more active mentors.

I think mentoring is needed, but it is more likely that there is not really a 
community.

We have three choices.

- Continue as now.
- Mentor reboot.
- Retirement.

This is not the first time VXQuery's status has been discussed.

Regards,
Dave

 
 Marvin Humphrey
 
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Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-16 Thread Ross Gardler
Apologies for not reviewing my podlings. I was relocating my family across
the globe during this reporting cycle.

I have now reviews the reports from each podling as follows (not added to
report in board agenda or wiki since there is a great big do not edit on
the wiki doc):

Ross Gardler   DeviceMap

Project is in good shape and operating well. Ramping up for a release.
Active mentor engagement where needed.

Ross Gardler   Marmotta

Looks good. Releases made, Committers brought in. Mentors appear to be
watching. Recommend mentors consider graduation sooner rather than later.

Ross Gardler   Ripple

Progressing well. Legal issues to address before a relase can be made. Good
mentor involvement

Ross

 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Senior Technology Evangelist
Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation





On 2 July 2013 07:23, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:

 Greets,

 Here are shepherd assignments for the July 2013 report:

 SHEPHERD   PODLING
 --
 Alan Cabrera   jclouds
 Alan Cabrera   Open Climate Workbench
 Alan Cabrera   ODF Toolkit
 Dave FisherJSPWiki
 Dave FisherStratos
 Matt Franklin  Falcon
 Matt Franklin  Tashi
 Matt Franklin  VXQuery
 Ross Gardler   DeviceMap
 Ross Gardler   Marmotta
 Ross Gardler   Ripple
 Matt Hogstrom  Mesos
 Matt Hogstrom  Provisionr
 Matt Hogstrom  Spark
 Benson Marguilies  Chukwa
 Benson Marguilies  Kafka
 Benson Marguilies  MetaModel
 Suresh Marru   Celix
 Suresh Marru   Helix
 Suresh Marru   MRQL
 Roman Shaposhnik   Knox
 Roman Shaposhnik   Tajo
 Roman Shaposhnik   Tez

 Matt Franklin: I interpreted (Happy to take any podling) as willing
 to handle any podlings (plural) and assigned you three.

 All: Please speak up if there are any issues.

 Thanks as always, shepherds.

 Marvin Humphrey

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Re: [REPORT] Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-08 Thread Chip Childers
On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 11:09:16AM -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
 
 On Jul 2, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
 
 Dave FisherStratos
 
 Still getting started. Very active lists.
 I noted a slight impatience with Infrastructure.
 Is it worth establishing a timeline or SLA with Infra to keep podling 
 expectations aligned to reality?

Perhaps not a formal timeline / SLA, but setting expectations would be
good.  OTOH, that podling was already told to be patient.  ;-)

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Re: [REPORT] Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-08 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote:

 Perhaps not a formal timeline / SLA, but setting expectations would be
 good.

This recently created wiki page may be helpful, if it has not already
been passed along:

  https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WhatToExpect

Thanks to the primary creators, Alex Harui and Rob Vesse.

Marvin Humphrey

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[REPORT] Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-07 Thread Dave Fisher

On Jul 2, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:

 Greets,
 
 Here are shepherd assignments for the July 2013 report:
 
SHEPHERD   PODLING
--
Alan Cabrera   jclouds
Alan Cabrera   Open Climate Workbench
Alan Cabrera   ODF Toolkit
Dave FisherJSPWiki

Ready to graduate. A VOTE is in progress on general@.
Still needs to file July board report.

Dave FisherStratos

Still getting started. Very active lists.
I noted a slight impatience with Infrastructure.
Is it worth establishing a timeline or SLA with Infra to keep podling 
expectations aligned to reality?

Regards,
Dave

Matt Franklin  Falcon
Matt Franklin  Tashi
Matt Franklin  VXQuery
Ross Gardler   DeviceMap
Ross Gardler   Marmotta
Ross Gardler   Ripple
Matt Hogstrom  Mesos
Matt Hogstrom  Provisionr
Matt Hogstrom  Spark
Benson Marguilies  Chukwa
Benson Marguilies  Kafka
Benson Marguilies  MetaModel
Suresh Marru   Celix
Suresh Marru   Helix
Suresh Marru   MRQL
Roman Shaposhnik   Knox
Roman Shaposhnik   Tajo
Roman Shaposhnik   Tez
 
 Matt Franklin: I interpreted (Happy to take any podling) as willing
 to handle any podlings (plural) and assigned you three.
 
 All: Please speak up if there are any issues.
 
 Thanks as always, shepherds.
 
 Marvin Humphrey
 
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Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-03 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:

 Benson Marguilies  Chukwa
 Benson Marguilies  Kafka
 Benson Marguilies  MetaModel

Benson will have one fewer podlings to shepherd this month.  Kafka graduated
last October, but hadn't followed through on removing themselves from
podlings.xml per
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#unincubate.

They were also in the wiki report template generated by clutch2report.py, but
I've now removed them.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-02 Thread Suresh Marru
Hi Marvin,

Can you also once recap the timelines you are expecting the podlings reports, 
shepherd reviews, and draft summary, and submission to board?

Suresh

On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:

 Greets,
 
 Here are shepherd assignments for the July 2013 report:
 
SHEPHERD   PODLING
--
Alan Cabrera   jclouds
Alan Cabrera   Open Climate Workbench
Alan Cabrera   ODF Toolkit
Dave FisherJSPWiki
Dave FisherStratos
Matt Franklin  Falcon
Matt Franklin  Tashi
Matt Franklin  VXQuery
Ross Gardler   DeviceMap
Ross Gardler   Marmotta
Ross Gardler   Ripple
Matt Hogstrom  Mesos
Matt Hogstrom  Provisionr
Matt Hogstrom  Spark
Benson Marguilies  Chukwa
Benson Marguilies  Kafka
Benson Marguilies  MetaModel
Suresh Marru   Celix
Suresh Marru   Helix
Suresh Marru   MRQL
Roman Shaposhnik   Knox
Roman Shaposhnik   Tajo
Roman Shaposhnik   Tez
 
 Matt Franklin: I interpreted (Happy to take any podling) as willing
 to handle any podlings (plural) and assigned you three.
 
 All: Please speak up if there are any issues.
 
 Thanks as always, shepherds.
 
 Marvin Humphrey
 
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Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:
 Can you also once recap the timelines you are expecting the podlings
 reports, shepherd reviews, and draft summary, and submission to board?

I believe our schedule is pretty much mandated at this point by the date of
the Board meeting and the due dates that Marvin set in the reminders that went
out a couple days ago.

Wed July 10 -- Podling reports due by end of day
Wed July 10 -- Summary due by end of day
Fri July 12 -- Shepherd reviews due by 21:00 PDT
Fri July 12 -- Report submitted no sooner than 21:00 PDT
Wed July 17 -- Board meeting

The Board generally requests that reports be provided a week in advance of the
meeting, but makes an exception for the Incubator because of the coordination
issues.  It's important that we file it before the weekend, though, so that
Board members have ample opportunity to review and log pre-approvals.

Honestly, I don't see why we don't ask for podling reports a week sooner than
we do, aside from the hassle of recoding Marvin.

In the future I expect to work on automating and delegating, but this month it
will be all manual and I'll be satisfied so long as everything goes smoothly
and we produce a high-quality report.

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Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-02 Thread Dave Fisher

On Jul 2, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:
 Can you also once recap the timelines you are expecting the podlings
 reports, shepherd reviews, and draft summary, and submission to board?
 
 I believe our schedule is pretty much mandated at this point by the date of
 the Board meeting and the due dates that Marvin set in the reminders that went
 out a couple days ago.
 
Wed July 10 -- Podling reports due by end of day
Wed July 10 -- Summary due by end of day
Fri July 12 -- Shepherd reviews due by 21:00 PDT
Fri July 12 -- Report submitted no sooner than 21:00 PDT
Wed July 17 -- Board meeting
 
 The Board generally requests that reports be provided a week in advance of the
 meeting, but makes an exception for the Incubator because of the coordination
 issues.  It's important that we file it before the weekend, though, so that
 Board members have ample opportunity to review and log pre-approvals.
 
 Honestly, I don't see why we don't ask for podling reports a week sooner than
 we do, aside from the hassle of recoding Marvin.
 
 In the future I expect to work on automating and delegating, but this month it
 will be all manual and I'll be satisfied so long as everything goes smoothly
 and we produce a high-quality report.

When automation occurs can we please make the shepherd assignments random. As a 
shepherd I find It much more interesting to look at new projects each month.

Regards,
Dave

 
 Marvin Humphrey
 
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Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-02 Thread Matt Franklin
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote:

 Greets,

 Here are shepherd assignments for the July 2013 report:

 SHEPHERD   PODLING
 --
 Alan Cabrera   jclouds
 Alan Cabrera   Open Climate Workbench
 Alan Cabrera   ODF Toolkit
 Dave FisherJSPWiki
 Dave FisherStratos
 Matt Franklin  Falcon
 Matt Franklin  Tashi
 Matt Franklin  VXQuery
 Ross Gardler   DeviceMap
 Ross Gardler   Marmotta
 Ross Gardler   Ripple
 Matt Hogstrom  Mesos
 Matt Hogstrom  Provisionr
 Matt Hogstrom  Spark
 Benson Marguilies  Chukwa
 Benson Marguilies  Kafka
 Benson Marguilies  MetaModel
 Suresh Marru   Celix
 Suresh Marru   Helix
 Suresh Marru   MRQL
 Roman Shaposhnik   Knox
 Roman Shaposhnik   Tajo
 Roman Shaposhnik   Tez

 Matt Franklin: I interpreted (Happy to take any podling) as willing
 to handle any podlings (plural) and assigned you three.


Perfect, thanks.




 All: Please speak up if there are any issues.

 Thanks as always, shepherds.

 Marvin Humphrey

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