Re:Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Doris 0.14.0-incubating-rc04

2021-04-12 Thread 陈明雨
Hi Justin:
> I assume Baidu are willing to hand the trademark over to the ASF?
Of course we will discuss this issue with Baidu


>https://github.com/baidu-doris
>https://codechina.csdn.net/mirrors/baidu-doris
>https://github.com/baidu-doris/incubator-doris


In fact, these are personal repo and do not belong to Baidu, but we will 
re-standardize the use of these repos.




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At 2021-04-13 10:36:16, "Justin Mclean"  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>> And because the trademark of Doris in China currently belongs to Baidu. We 
>> will discuss this matter later and resolve it before graduation.
>
>I assume Baidu are willing to hand the trademark over to the ASF? 
>
>To avoid confusion it would be best if Baidu correctly uses the name as if it 
>was an ASF trademark.
>
>For instance I assume Baidu is responsible for these?
>https://github.com/baidu-doris
>https://codechina.csdn.net/mirrors/baidu-doris
>https://github.com/baidu-doris/incubator-doris
>
>
>> We have previously investigated the source of the relevant code in gutil, 
>> but found that it exists in many projects and there is no clear source. Most 
>> of them only claim to be from Google, and some will claim to be Apache 
>> Licence or BSD-3. Since this part of the code of Doris was imported from 
>> Kudu, we decided to declare in Licence from Kudu.
>
>If code was taken from Kudu you ned to mention that in your NOTICE file.
>
>Thanks,
>Justin
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Re:Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Doris 0.14.0-incubating-rc04

2021-04-12 Thread 陈明雨
Hi Justin:
Thank you for your review.


> A deeper question is why isn’t this code being contributed to the project?


This is because part of the code is still in the experimental stage or has not 
been fully verified. Usually we will organize and submit it to the Apache code 
base after a period of time,
but this matter should have nothing to do with this release vote.
And because the trademark of Doris in China currently belongs to Baidu. We will 
discuss this matter later and resolve it before graduation.


> 1. [1][2] [3] code under /be/src/gutil/ is come from Apache Kudu
> But that not the original source is it, as it is not ASF licensed. If you did 
> take ASF code from Kudu then that shovel bee listed in your NOTICE file.


We have previously investigated the source of the relevant code in gutil, but 
found that it exists in many projects and there is no clear source. Most of 
them only claim to be from Google, and some will claim to be Apache Licence or 
BSD-3. Since this part of the code of Doris was imported from Kudu, we decided 
to declare in Licence from Kudu.


> [4] [5] The license of this file is indeed unknown.


We will deal with this problem before continuing this release vote.




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At 2021-04-13 09:40:27, "Justin Mclean"  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>> 1.  [1][2] [3] code under /be/src/gutil/ is come from Apache Kudu
>
>But that not the original source is it, as it is not ASF licensed. If you did 
>take ASF code from Kudu then that shovel bee listed in your NOTICE file.
>
>> 2.  [6] [7] means that our previous version had dependencies under a GPL
>> license, but it has been removed in the new version. if user want to use
>> it, need to solve it by themselves
>
>Thanks for clearing that up.
>
>> 3. [4] [5] The license of this file is indeed unknown. 
>
>Because of this I’m still -1 on the release. However my -1 is not a veto, you 
>need a minimum of 3 +1 and more +1s than -1s. The release manager could of 
>course decide not to release it even if the vote passes. IMO releasing 
>something containing code with an unknown license is probably doing your users 
>a disservice.
>
>Thanks,
>Justin
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Re:Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Doris 0.14.0-incubating-rc04

2021-04-12 Thread 陈明雨
Hi Justin:

>Some of this may depend on what the other release contains. Does it just 
>contain fixes / patches already in Apache Doris version control or does it 
>contain extra code from Baidu?

It contains extra code from Baidu.



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在 2021-04-12 14:00:22,"Justin Mclean"  写道:
>Hi,
>
>> Sorry for the trouble to everyone, we will re-evaluate the branding issue.
>> Can we use the following names to publish versions maintained by third 
>> parties(NOT in Apache offical code repo)
>> 
>> DorisDB, BaiduDoris, DorisBaidu, DorisDatawareHouse, DorisCloud, etc…
>
>None of these names fit what is generally allowed, I would double check with 
>trademarks. Names like BaiduDoris and DorisBaidu would not be allowed as it’s 
>an Apache project.
>
>Some of this may depend on what the other release contains. Does it just 
>contain fixes / patches already in Apache Doris version control or does it 
>contain extra code from Baidu?
>
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>Justin
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Re:Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Doris 0.14.0-incubating-rc04

2021-04-11 Thread 陈明雨
Hi Dear IPMC:


Sorry for the trouble to everyone, we will re-evaluate the branding issue.
Can we use the following names to publish versions maintained by third 
parties(NOT in Apache offical code repo):


DorisDB, BaiduDoris, DorisBaidu, DorisDatawareHouse, DorisCloud, etc...



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在 2021-04-12 11:35:02,"Sheng Wu"  写道:
>But they are using Doris as a name. You have Baidu's team members in your
>PPMC, then PPMC should take the responsibility to protect the branding.
>
>Sheng Wu 吴晟
>Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>ling miao  于2021年4月12日周一 上午10:40写道:
>
>> Hi Sheng Wu,
>>
>> > How is the version determined by the community? As Apache Doris was
>> donated
>> from Baidu(right?), why you are not using a new version?
>>
>> The release of Apache Doris is only determined by the apache community, and
>> there is no possibility that BAIDU will vote and release the version
>> directly.
>> The Apache Doris community will only release two-digit version numbers such
>> as 0.13.0.
>>
>> We will release a three-digit version number, such as 0.13.10, based on
>> some bug fixes on the two-bit version and small feature additions.
>> But because the community release process is relatively long, we will
>> directly post these three-bit versions on the baidu-doris code base.
>>
>> So 0.14.7 is actually an open source three-digit version, a three-digit
>> version number based on Apache Doris version 0.14.
>>
>> So we need to wait until the 0.14 version is fully released before we can
>> release subsequent patch versions?
>>
>> Ling Miao
>>
>> Sheng Wu  于2021年4月12日周一 上午10:27写道:
>>
>> > ling miao  于2021年4月12日周一 上午10:23写道:
>> >
>> > > Hi Ming Wen,
>> > >
>> > > > When I searched for `Doris 0.14` on Google, I found an article[1]
>> > > mentioning that Doris 0.14.7 has been released.
>> > > Doris 0.14.7 is an internal version of our baidu doris. It is not the
>> > > version of apache doris, so apache doris has not released version 0.14.
>> > > [1] The article is actually a release of the internal version.
>> > >
>> >
>> > How is the version determined by the community? As Apache Doris was
>> donated
>> > from Baidu(right?), why you are not using a new version?
>> > This seems very confusing.
>> > I could read from blog posts about 0.14.7 has been released.
>> >
>> > Such as, https://blog.csdn.net/ucanuup_/article/details/115548997
>> > (Chinese)
>> >
>> >
>> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> > Twitter, wusheng1108
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > > But I checked the historical release[2] and did not have this
>> version.
>> > > Since the community has not formally voted for the release, the
>> > > documentation of our community has not yet been updated [2]. We will
>> > update
>> > > the community documentation after the community has completed the
>> > release.
>> > >
>> > > Shouldn't it be a problem?
>> > >
>> > > Ling Miao
>> > >
>> > > Ming Wen  于2021年4月12日周一 上午9:27写道:
>> > >
>> > > > Hello,
>> > > > When I searched for `Doris 0.14` on Google, I found an article[1]
>> > > > mentioning that Doris 0.14.7 has been released.
>> > > > But I checked the historical release[2] and did not have this
>> version.
>> > > > In my understanding, 0.14.0 has not been released. Why does 0.14.7
>> > exist?
>> > > >
>> > > > [1] https://www.modb.pro/db/49638
>> > > > [2] https://doris.apache.org/master/en/downloads/downloads.html
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > > Ming Wen, Apache APISIX PMC Chair
>> > > > Twitter: _WenMing
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Xun Liu  于2021年4月11日周日 下午11:05写道:
>> > > >
>> > > > > +1 (non-binding)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I checked:
>> > > > > [√] Download links are valid.
>> > > > > [√] Checksums and PGP signatures are valid.
>> > > > > [√] LICENSE, NOTICE and DISCLAIMER files exist.
>> > > > > [√] All files have license headers if necessary.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > Xun Liu
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:13 PM Willem Jiang <
>> > willem.ji...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >  I’m +1, I checked
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > - LICENSE, DISCLAIM and NOTICE files exist;
>> > > > > > - Release candidate tar is signed, the Shasum.
>> > > > > > - “incubating” exists in tar file name and documentation;
>> > > > > > - License headers exist in files if necessary.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Willem Jiang
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Twitter: willemjiang
>> > > > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 1:37 PM 寒江雪  wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hi all,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Please review and vote on Apache Doris 0.14.0-incubating-rc04
>> > > > release.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Apache Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing
>> for
>> > > > > > reporting
>> > > > > > > and analysis.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > The Apache Doris community has voted on and approved this
>> > release:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rc95a58e64b926dc89