Re: Shepherding November 2013
Hi, Anyone can volunteer. Just added myself. I'm not an IPMC member but seen a project through incubation and I'm a PMC member. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding November 2013
Hi, I've put up my hand before but had no response. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding November 2013
Hi - Apologies for not getting around to it. I've been on the road and work continues to be a grind. Aurora is starting out and Open Climate Workbench looks fine - graduation soon? That was my initial look at the start, and then oops time's up. Regards, Dave On Nov 11, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: Shepherd reviews extracted from https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2013: Ambari Roman Shaposhnik (rvs): Project should be pretty close to a well deserved graduation. Kudos to the community building effort! BatchEE Suresh Marru (smarru): The podling is waiting on website setup. The dev mailing list is not yet setup (or atleast not visible in archives), surprisingly the user and commit lists have archives, is something amiss? Blur Suresh Marru (smarru): * The podling seems to be very healthy and kudos to PPMC for pulling of their first release and getting ready for second. * A big kudos to couple of mentors for pro-actively engaging. * Blur website does not conform to the branding guidelines and should add the incubator logo and disclaimer prominently. Also, should include the ASF, security and thanks to sponsor links. Sirona Roman Shaposhnik (rvs): Given that it has been less then a month since project entered incubation I see that the most immediate needs of having a source code repo, JIRA and MLs have been met. Still it would be nice if the bootstrapping were to wrap up as quickly as possible. At this point, for example, there's no website and no wiki, etc. Those are the tools for helping the community growth and it would be very nice to see those coming online in a few weeks. Tez Andrei Savu (asavu): The project is moving very quickly, but needs to make a release soon. Podlings which did not receive shepherd reviews this cycle: Aurora DeviceMap Droids Hadoop Development Tools Knox Open Climate Workbench Ripple Sentry Storm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Shepherding November 2013
Shepherd reviews extracted from https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2013: Ambari Roman Shaposhnik (rvs): Project should be pretty close to a well deserved graduation. Kudos to the community building effort! BatchEE Suresh Marru (smarru): The podling is waiting on website setup. The dev mailing list is not yet setup (or atleast not visible in archives), surprisingly the user and commit lists have archives, is something amiss? Blur Suresh Marru (smarru): * The podling seems to be very healthy and kudos to PPMC for pulling of their first release and getting ready for second. * A big kudos to couple of mentors for pro-actively engaging. * Blur website does not conform to the branding guidelines and should add the incubator logo and disclaimer prominently. Also, should include the ASF, security and thanks to sponsor links. Sirona Roman Shaposhnik (rvs): Given that it has been less then a month since project entered incubation I see that the most immediate needs of having a source code repo, JIRA and MLs have been met. Still it would be nice if the bootstrapping were to wrap up as quickly as possible. At this point, for example, there's no website and no wiki, etc. Those are the tools for helping the community growth and it would be very nice to see those coming online in a few weeks. Tez Andrei Savu (asavu): The project is moving very quickly, but needs to make a release soon. Podlings which did not receive shepherd reviews this cycle: Aurora DeviceMap Droids Hadoop Development Tools Knox Open Climate Workbench Ripple Sentry Storm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding November 2013
Hi Marvin, Can anyone volunteer? Or only IPMC? I'd like to volunteer to help you guys out next month. John On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 12.11.13 00:04, schrieb Marvin Humphrey: Podlings which did not receive shepherd reviews this cycle: Aurora DeviceMap Droids Hadoop Development Tools Knox Open Climate Workbench Ripple Sentry Storm So many not reviewed? Ok, I'm willing to take two text month if needed. Shepherd participation waxes and wanes. We ostensibly had all podlings covered in that every one was assigned a shepherd, but four of our shepherd volunteers didn't come through this cycle, including three stalwarts who we have been able to rely on most of the time. I'm not sure how to solve this problem even if we get more volunteers and spread the load out, because by the time we discover that a shepherd didn't submit a review, it's too late for someone else to fill in. The shepherd window with the current schedule is 4 days long (Thursday through Sunday), because we need to leave time for people to respond to the shepherd comments before the report is filed. Doubling up shepherds would probably make matters worse, because each would likely let the the other assignee take care of things. Maybe if we were to recruit enough volunteers that each shepherd had only one assignment per month, there would be less fatigue and we'd get higher participation rates? Next month's cycle will have more podlings and we probably won't be able to cover all of them with the available roster of volunteers. Your taking on a second assignment is much appreciated. But please don't burn out! You've done a great job both last month with Olingo and this month with NPanday. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding November 2013
John D. Ament wrote: Hi Marvin, Can anyone volunteer? Or only IPMC? I'd like to volunteer to help you guys out next month. Anyone can. Please. I gather that you just need to add/maintain this file: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/shepherds.json -David John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding November 2013
Something is fishy. I haven't received any Shepherd assignments ... email for November and I've done no reviews. It's not clear to me how my name got added as a reviewer for Tez. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: Shepherd reviews extracted from https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2013: Ambari Roman Shaposhnik (rvs): Project should be pretty close to a well deserved graduation. Kudos to the community building effort! BatchEE Suresh Marru (smarru): The podling is waiting on website setup. The dev mailing list is not yet setup (or atleast not visible in archives), surprisingly the user and commit lists have archives, is something amiss? Blur Suresh Marru (smarru): * The podling seems to be very healthy and kudos to PPMC for pulling of their first release and getting ready for second. * A big kudos to couple of mentors for pro-actively engaging. * Blur website does not conform to the branding guidelines and should add the incubator logo and disclaimer prominently. Also, should include the ASF, security and thanks to sponsor links. Sirona Roman Shaposhnik (rvs): Given that it has been less then a month since project entered incubation I see that the most immediate needs of having a source code repo, JIRA and MLs have been met. Still it would be nice if the bootstrapping were to wrap up as quickly as possible. At this point, for example, there's no website and no wiki, etc. Those are the tools for helping the community growth and it would be very nice to see those coming online in a few weeks. Tez Andrei Savu (asavu): The project is moving very quickly, but needs to make a release soon. Podlings which did not receive shepherd reviews this cycle: Aurora DeviceMap Droids Hadoop Development Tools Knox Open Climate Workbench Ripple Sentry Storm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding November 2013
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:17 PM, John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marvin, Can anyone volunteer? Or only IPMC? Anyone can volunteer. Honestly, I would be thrilled if our shepherd roster was composed entirely of fresh recruits rather than grizzled IPMC veterans. Shepherding is a great way to gain knowledge about Apache. The first task of a shepherd is to scan the mailing list archives for the last three-month cycle looking for Mentor participation. What the IPMC needs most is a dead man's switch[1] which warns us when activity is dangerously low. So long as you can tell us Podling is active, N mentors participating, our basic needs have been met. The benefit for novice shepherds is that that you're looking through Mentor emails -- and what Mentors have to say to other podlings is often very interesting. You get to see what kinds of problems those podlings are working through and what guidance their Mentors are giving -- possibly providing a new perspective on challenges faced by projects you participate in. A secondary function of shepherding is to provide an outsider's perspective for the benefit of the podling being reviewed. That's a task that only someone fairly experienced should take on, because it's politically sensitive. However, while detailed commentary can be quite helpful, in my view there is such great value to the Incubator and the ASF at large in increasing cross-pollination that we should prioritize giving new volunteers a chance. I'd like to volunteer to help you guys out next month. Excellent. I see that you've added yourself to shepherds.json while I was writing this -- thanks for signing up! Marvin Humphrey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_man%27s_switch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding November 2013
Andrei Savu wrote: Something is fishy. I haven't received any Shepherd assignments ... email for November and I've done no reviews. It's not clear to me how my name got added as a reviewer for Tez. Dunno about email. I added a section to explain the process a bit: http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#shepherds So you were assigned to Tez by the script. Regarding the edits, my local 'mairix' search found this: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2013?action=diffrev1=26rev2=27 -David On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: Shepherd reviews extracted from https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2013: Ambari Roman Shaposhnik (rvs): Project should be pretty close to a well deserved graduation. Kudos to the community building effort! BatchEE Suresh Marru (smarru): The podling is waiting on website setup. The dev mailing list is not yet setup (or atleast not visible in archives), surprisingly the user and commit lists have archives, is something amiss? Blur Suresh Marru (smarru): * The podling seems to be very healthy and kudos to PPMC for pulling of their first release and getting ready for second. * A big kudos to couple of mentors for pro-actively engaging. * Blur website does not conform to the branding guidelines and should add the incubator logo and disclaimer prominently. Also, should include the ASF, security and thanks to sponsor links. Sirona Roman Shaposhnik (rvs): Given that it has been less then a month since project entered incubation I see that the most immediate needs of having a source code repo, JIRA and MLs have been met. Still it would be nice if the bootstrapping were to wrap up as quickly as possible. At this point, for example, there's no website and no wiki, etc. Those are the tools for helping the community growth and it would be very nice to see those coming online in a few weeks. Tez Andrei Savu (asavu): The project is moving very quickly, but needs to make a release soon. Podlings which did not receive shepherd reviews this cycle: Aurora DeviceMap Droids Hadoop Development Tools Knox Open Climate Workbench Ripple Sentry Storm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding November 2013
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrei Savu as...@apache.org wrote: Something is fishy. I haven't received any Shepherd assignments ... email for November and I've done no reviews. It's not clear to me how my name got added as a reviewer for Tez. The comment was added by Owen O'Malley. I've corrected the report. With regards to Shepherd assignments email, I didn't send one out this month, instead noting in the November 2013 report timeline that the assignments are on the report wiki page. Maybe that explains the low participation. :( In future months, I think there should be only one email, so please watch for it. The shepherd assignments are now done automatically by a script[1]; I plan to add another `report_timeline.py` script which generates the report timeline email, and finally a `report_runbook.py` which generates all the commands and instructions that a Report Manager would need to execute -- analogous to a release runbook. I'd meant to have all this stuff done two months ago, but other Incubator Chair responsibilities kept eating my time. I think it's important for future Chairs that we lighten the load of preparing the monthly report. Marvin Humphrey [1] It was actually pretty tricky (and time-consuming) to make the shepherd assignments manually, taking into account all the necessary criteria: never repeat a podling-shepherd pairing, Mentors can't be shepherds for their own podlings, only so many per month per person, some shepherds prefer specific types of podlings, etc. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding November 2013
Hi, Just added myself. I've seen a project though incubation, I'm a PMC member and been a release manager. Thanks, Justin On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrei Savu as...@apache.org wrote: Something is fishy. I haven't received any Shepherd assignments ... email for November and I've done no reviews. It's not clear to me how my name got added as a reviewer for Tez. The comment was added by Owen O'Malley. I've corrected the report. With regards to Shepherd assignments email, I didn't send one out this month, instead noting in the November 2013 report timeline that the assignments are on the report wiki page. Maybe that explains the low participation. :( In future months, I think there should be only one email, so please watch for it. The shepherd assignments are now done automatically by a script[1]; I plan to add another `report_timeline.py` script which generates the report timeline email, and finally a `report_runbook.py` which generates all the commands and instructions that a Report Manager would need to execute -- analogous to a release runbook. I'd meant to have all this stuff done two months ago, but other Incubator Chair responsibilities kept eating my time. I think it's important for future Chairs that we lighten the load of preparing the monthly report. Marvin Humphrey [1] It was actually pretty tricky (and time-consuming) to make the shepherd assignments manually, taking into account all the necessary criteria: never repeat a podling-shepherd pairing, Mentors can't be shepherds for their own podlings, only so many per month per person, some shepherds prefer specific types of podlings, etc. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding November 2013
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Justin Mclean justinmcl...@gmail.com wrote: Just added myself. I've seen a project though incubation, I'm a PMC member and been a release manager. Sweet, Justin's on board. Great to have you! Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding November 2013
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: The comment was added by Owen O'Malley. I've corrected the report. I'm glad we sorted that out. With regards to Shepherd assignments email, I didn't send one out this month, instead noting in the November 2013 report timeline that the assignments are on the report wiki page. Maybe that explains the low participation. :( Sorry for not helping this month - I've missed the note on the report timeline.
