Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
I made the following comment on the PR, but will include it here as well. > Looks reasonable and points to the important detail. I would only add that if > the podling is releasing with DISCLAIMER-WIP that the linked DISCLAIMER > should be the DISCLAIMER-WIP with that added information. Best, Dave > On May 25, 2024, at 1:28 AM, tison wrote: > > OK. My major intention is to sync the discussion to the list. If "lazy > consensus" is too eager to use, I'm OK to make it clear that it's still > encouraged for everyone on the list to give more inputs :D > > Best, > tison. > > > sebb 于2024年5月25日周六 16:26写道： > >> On Sat, 25 May 2024 at 09:10, tison wrote: >>> >>> A lazy consensus is met at [1]. >> >> Sorry, but I don't think it is correct to to use that designation here. >> >> I don't think the discussion has been open long enough to say that >> consensus has been achieved, nor was there an explicit call for >> opinions. >> All one can say is that no objections have yet been raised so far. >> >>> I support Justin's opinion that "we were >>> not too prescriptive on the exact wording". But this patch can be used >> as a >>> reference for a good starting point for other podlings. >> >> I agree it is a good starting point. But given how many places would >> have to be updated if there are any subsequent objections, I think it >> would be good to get some more opinions. >> >>> [1] >>> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535#issuecomment-2130634831 >>> >>> Best, >>> tison. >>> >>> >>> tison 于2024年5月24日周五 13:16写道： >>> A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation: https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535 Best, tison. tison 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道： > Hi, > > This is a discussed topic at [1]. > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part. > > For the disclaimer part, [1] first had: > >> I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the >> project's >> README. > > But later Justin suggested [2]: > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms > >> Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little >> shorter >> shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the >> project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and >> what that means, rather than the exact wording. > > I made a few preview candidates at [3]. > > [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1. > > So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket >> [4] to > make a reference. > > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790 > > I can see that either: > > 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or, > 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER. > > should work. > > cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please >> keep > general@incubator.o.o in cc. > > Best, > tison. > > > Justin Mclean 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道： > >> Hi, >> >>> Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in >>> the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious. >> >> Yep, that should be done. >> >>> It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the >> Incubator >>> disclaimer, as is done on website pages. >> >> That is also my expectation. >> >> See for instance: >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790 >> >> Kind Regards, >> Justin >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >>
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
OK. My major intention is to sync the discussion to the list. If "lazy consensus" is too eager to use, I'm OK to make it clear that it's still encouraged for everyone on the list to give more inputs :D Best, tison. sebb 于2024年5月25日周六 16:26写道： > On Sat, 25 May 2024 at 09:10, tison wrote: > > > > A lazy consensus is met at [1]. > > Sorry, but I don't think it is correct to to use that designation here. > > I don't think the discussion has been open long enough to say that > consensus has been achieved, nor was there an explicit call for > opinions. > All one can say is that no objections have yet been raised so far. > > > I support Justin's opinion that "we were > > not too prescriptive on the exact wording". But this patch can be used > as a > > reference for a good starting point for other podlings. > > I agree it is a good starting point. But given how many places would > have to be updated if there are any subsequent objections, I think it > would be good to get some more opinions. > > > [1] > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535#issuecomment-2130634831 > > > > Best, > > tison. > > > > > > tison 于2024年5月24日周五 13:16写道： > > > > > A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation: > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535 > > > > > > Best, > > > tison. > > > > > > > > > tison 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道： > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> This is a discussed topic at [1]. > > >> > > >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > >> > > >> I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part. > > >> > > >> For the disclaimer part, [1] first had: > > >> > > >> > I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the > project's > > >> > README. > > >> > > >> But later Justin suggested [2]: > > >> > > >> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms > > >> > > >> > Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little > shorter > > >> > shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the > > >> > project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and > > >> > what that means, rather than the exact wording. > > >> > > >> I made a few preview candidates at [3]. > > >> > > >> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1. > > >> > > >> So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket > [4] to > > >> make a reference. > > >> > > >> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790 > > >> > > >> I can see that either: > > >> > > >> 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or, > > >> 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER. > > >> > > >> should work. > > >> > > >> cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please > keep > > >> general@incubator.o.o in cc. > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> tison. > > >> > > >> > > >> Justin Mclean 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道： > > >> > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in > > >>> > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious. > > >>> > > >>> Yep, that should be done. > > >>> > > >>> > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the > Incubator > > >>> > disclaimer, as is done on website pages. > > >>> > > >>> That is also my expectation. > > >>> > > >>> See for instance: > > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790 > > >>> > > >>> Kind Regards, > > >>> Justin > > >>> > > >>> - > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>> > > >>> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
On Sat, 25 May 2024 at 09:10, tison wrote: > > A lazy consensus is met at [1]. Sorry, but I don't think it is correct to to use that designation here. I don't think the discussion has been open long enough to say that consensus has been achieved, nor was there an explicit call for opinions. All one can say is that no objections have yet been raised so far. > I support Justin's opinion that "we were > not too prescriptive on the exact wording". But this patch can be used as a > reference for a good starting point for other podlings. I agree it is a good starting point. But given how many places would have to be updated if there are any subsequent objections, I think it would be good to get some more opinions. > [1] > https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535#issuecomment-2130634831 > > Best, > tison. > > > tison 于2024年5月24日周五 13:16写道： > > > A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation: > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535 > > > > Best, > > tison. > > > > > > tison 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道： > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> This is a discussed topic at [1]. > >> > >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > >> > >> I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part. > >> > >> For the disclaimer part, [1] first had: > >> > >> > I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the project's > >> > README. > >> > >> But later Justin suggested [2]: > >> > >> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms > >> > >> > Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little shorter > >> > shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the > >> > project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and > >> > what that means, rather than the exact wording. > >> > >> I made a few preview candidates at [3]. > >> > >> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1. > >> > >> So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket [4] to > >> make a reference. > >> > >> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790 > >> > >> I can see that either: > >> > >> 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or, > >> 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER. > >> > >> should work. > >> > >> cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please keep > >> general@incubator.o.o in cc. > >> > >> Best, > >> tison. > >> > >> > >> Justin Mclean 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道： > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in > >>> > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious. > >>> > >>> Yep, that should be done. > >>> > >>> > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the Incubator > >>> > disclaimer, as is done on website pages. > >>> > >>> That is also my expectation. > >>> > >>> See for instance: > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790 > >>> > >>> Kind Regards, > >>> Justin > >>> > >>> - > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>> > >>> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
A lazy consensus is met at [1]. I support Justin's opinion that "we were not too prescriptive on the exact wording". But this patch can be used as a reference for a good starting point for other podlings. [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535#issuecomment-2130634831 Best, tison. tison 于2024年5月24日周五 13:16写道： > A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535 > > Best, > tison. > > > tison 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道： > >> Hi, >> >> This is a discussed topic at [1]. >> >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok >> >> I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part. >> >> For the disclaimer part, [1] first had: >> >> > I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the project's >> > README. >> >> But later Justin suggested [2]: >> >> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms >> >> > Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little shorter >> > shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the >> > project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and >> > what that means, rather than the exact wording. >> >> I made a few preview candidates at [3]. >> >> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1. >> >> So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket [4] to >> make a reference. >> >> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790 >> >> I can see that either: >> >> 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or, >> 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER. >> >> should work. >> >> cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please keep >> general@incubator.o.o in cc. >> >> Best, >> tison. >> >> >> Justin Mclean 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道： >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in >>> > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious. >>> >>> Yep, that should be done. >>> >>> > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the Incubator >>> > disclaimer, as is done on website pages. >>> >>> That is also my expectation. >>> >>> See for instance: >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790 >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> Justin >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>>
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation: https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535 Best, tison. tison 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道： > Hi, > > This is a discussed topic at [1]. > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part. > > For the disclaimer part, [1] first had: > > > I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the project's > > README. > > But later Justin suggested [2]: > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms > > > Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little shorter > > shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the > > project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and > > what that means, rather than the exact wording. > > I made a few preview candidates at [3]. > > [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1. > > So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket [4] to > make a reference. > > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790 > > I can see that either: > > 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or, > 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER. > > should work. > > cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please keep > general@incubator.o.o in cc. > > Best, > tison. > > > Justin Mclean 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道： > >> Hi, >> >> > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in >> > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious. >> >> Yep, that should be done. >> >> > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the Incubator >> > disclaimer, as is done on website pages. >> >> That is also my expectation. >> >> See for instance: >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790 >> >> Kind Regards, >> Justin >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >>
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Hi, This is a discussed topic at [1]. [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part. For the disclaimer part, [1] first had: > I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the project's > README. But later Justin suggested [2]: [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms > Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little shorter > shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the > project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and > what that means, rather than the exact wording. I made a few preview candidates at [3]. [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1. So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket [4] to make a reference. [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790 I can see that either: 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or, 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER. should work. cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please keep general@incubator.o.o in cc. Best, tison. Justin Mclean 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道： > Hi, > > > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in > > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious. > > Yep, that should be done. > > > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the Incubator > > disclaimer, as is done on website pages. > > That is also my expectation. > > See for instance: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790 > > Kind Regards, > Justin > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Hi, > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious. Yep, that should be done. > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the Incubator > disclaimer, as is done on website pages. That is also my expectation. See for instance: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790 Kind Regards, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Now that 'incubator' is no longer required as part of Git repo names, the question arises: what notification is required to ensure users are aware of the status? Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious. It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the Incubator disclaimer, as is done on website pages. Sebb - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
