Re: karma for jakarta-site2
hi, hope somehuman read any of my mails to jakarta community. i would like to help in any thing, but it seems that only mail machines read my email :s i hope to hear from any one alife at there :D -Mohammad Nabil From: Jeff Dever [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: karma for jakarta-site2 Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:28:04 -0400 I would like to add some info to the jakarta-site2 module. Could somone hit me with the karma? Jeff Dever HttpClient 2.0 release manager -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
Carnegie Mellon did a survey of ~300 Apache developers (56 committers) a while ago, and posted interim results to respondents last month. With the permission of the researcher, here are some stats: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 03:35:18PM +0100, Danny Angus wrote: Vincent Massol once wrote: I was curious to know who the other committers where, whether they shared the same beliefs I have, etc. This prompted me to wonder: 1/ are we.. a)male b)female 98.89% male 1.11% female 2/are we a) young b) 20-30 c) 30-40 d) 40-50 d) old 19 : 1.1% 20-29 : 50.55% 30-39 : 41.03% 40-49 : 6.59% 50 : 0.73% 3/about English a)its my native language b)its a second language, I live in an English speaking country c)I'm fluent but I live in a non-English speaking country d)other, tell me.. Strangely they didn't ask this. However, 90% of people come from what I hazily regard as English speaking countries (US, England, Aus, NZ). 4/do we have a)a full beard b)a goatee c)a moustache d)noneoftheabove 5/wear sandals a)never b)sometimes c)always Nor did they ask these, missing a golden opportunity to come up with an identikit-style portait of J Random Apache Hacker. The person running the survey is Jeff Roberts (jroberts at andrew.cmu.edu). --Jeff d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AutoResponder 2000: fuera de la oficina
Este mensaje fue autogenerado por AutoResponder 2000 Fuera de la Oficina Hola, estoy de vacaciones y... no sé por qué añadir más cosas si la mayoría de la peña en Jakarta no sabe ni papa de español -- si eres de los pocos afortunados, que sepas que esto es una broma. Pero visita http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html Gracias por tu paciencia. Out of Office Hi, I am on holidays and... I cannot answer your message right now. If your mail is about helping the Jakarta community, please be patient -- a human operator will read it as soon as possible. Meanwhile, please visit http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html Thanks for your patience. Mensaje Original- De: mohammad nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: viernes 4 de octubre de 2002 14:40 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: karma for jakarta-site2 hi, hope somehuman read any of my mails to jakarta community. i would like to help in any thing, but it seems that only mail machines read my email :s i hope to hear from any one alife at there :D -Mohammad Nabil From: Jeff Dever [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: karma for jakarta-site2 Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:28:04 -0400 I would like to add some info to the jakarta-site2 module. Could somone hit me with the karma? Jeff Dever HttpClient 2.0 release manager -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
I'd be more interested to hear statistics on how many people are California-based versus non-California based. (It would help me with my research into Apache cultures and cliches ;-) for a paper I'm writing ) On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 08:41, Jeff Turner wrote: Carnegie Mellon did a survey of ~300 Apache developers (56 committers) a while ago, and posted interim results to respondents last month. With the permission of the researcher, here are some stats: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 03:35:18PM +0100, Danny Angus wrote: Vincent Massol once wrote: I was curious to know who the other committers where, whether they shared the same beliefs I have, etc. This prompted me to wonder: 1/ are we.. a)male b)female 98.89% male 1.11% female 2/are we a) young b) 20-30 c) 30-40 d) 40-50 d) old 19 : 1.1% 20-29 : 50.55% 30-39 : 41.03% 40-49 : 6.59% 50 : 0.73% 3/about English a)its my native language b)its a second language, I live in an English speaking country c)I'm fluent but I live in a non-English speaking country d)other, tell me.. Strangely they didn't ask this. However, 90% of people come from what I hazily regard as English speaking countries (US, England, Aus, NZ). 4/do we have a)a full beard b)a goatee c)a moustache d)noneoftheabove 5/wear sandals a)never b)sometimes c)always Nor did they ask these, missing a golden opportunity to come up with an identikit-style portait of J Random Apache Hacker. The person running the survey is Jeff Roberts (jroberts at andrew.cmu.edu). --Jeff d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
I would be more interested in finding out about the users who are active enough to read this list. Andrew C. Oliver To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] acoliver@apac cc: he.org Subject: Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we? 10/04/02 09:49 AM Please respond to Jakarta General List I'd be more interested to hear statistics on how many people are California-based versus non-California based. (It would help me with my research into Apache cultures and cliches ;-) for a paper I'm writing ) On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 08:41, Jeff Turner wrote: Carnegie Mellon did a survey of ~300 Apache developers (56 committers) a while ago, and posted interim results to respondents last month. With the permission of the researcher, here are some stats: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 03:35:18PM +0100, Danny Angus wrote: Vincent Massol once wrote: I was curious to know who the other committers where, whether they shared the same beliefs I have, etc. This prompted me to wonder: 1/ are we.. a)male b)female 98.89% male 1.11% female 2/are we a) young b) 20-30 c) 30-40 d) 40-50 d) old 19 : 1.1% 20-29 : 50.55% 30-39 : 41.03% 40-49 : 6.59% 50 : 0.73% 3/about English a)its my native language b)its a second language, I live in an English speaking country c)I'm fluent but I live in a non-English speaking country d)other, tell me.. Strangely they didn't ask this. However, 90% of people come from what I hazily regard as English speaking countries (US, England, Aus, NZ). 4/do we have a)a full beard b)a goatee c)a moustache d)noneoftheabove 5/wear sandals a)never b)sometimes c)always Nor did they ask these, missing a golden opportunity to come up with an identikit-style portait of J Random Apache Hacker. The person running the survey is Jeff Roberts (jroberts at andrew.cmu.edu). --Jeff d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
is that an indication of activity or the opposite ;-) On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 10:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be more interested in finding out about the users who are active enough to read this list. Andrew C. Oliver To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] acoliver@apac cc: he.org Subject: Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we? 10/04/02 09:49 AM Please respond to Jakarta General List I'd be more interested to hear statistics on how many people are California-based versus non-California based. (It would help me with my research into Apache cultures and cliches ;-) for a paper I'm writing ) On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 08:41, Jeff Turner wrote: Carnegie Mellon did a survey of ~300 Apache developers (56 committers) a while ago, and posted interim results to respondents last month. With the permission of the researcher, here are some stats: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 03:35:18PM +0100, Danny Angus wrote: Vincent Massol once wrote: I was curious to know who the other committers where, whether they shared the same beliefs I have, etc. This prompted me to wonder: 1/ are we.. a)male b)female 98.89% male 1.11% female 2/are we a) young b) 20-30 c) 30-40 d) 40-50 d) old 19 : 1.1% 20-29 : 50.55% 30-39 : 41.03% 40-49 : 6.59% 50 : 0.73% 3/about English a)its my native language b)its a second language, I live in an English speaking country c)I'm fluent but I live in a non-English speaking country d)other, tell me.. Strangely they didn't ask this. However, 90% of people come from what I hazily regard as English speaking countries (US, England, Aus, NZ). 4/do we have a)a full beard b)a goatee c)a moustache d)noneoftheabove 5/wear sandals a)never b)sometimes c)always Nor did they ask these, missing a golden opportunity to come up with an identikit-style portait of J Random Apache Hacker. The person running the survey is Jeff Roberts (jroberts at andrew.cmu.edu). --Jeff d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule
Hi all contributors of Jakarta, As you might have heard, I am conducting a bug handling survey on: http://www.seas.smu.edu/~gkoru/surveys/dhsurvey.html So far, we have received answers from the developers, testers, defects fixers, and project managers in KDE, GNOME, Apache, OpenOffice, Mozilla, and other projects/sub-projects. Even though, we have not asked any names or e-mails, some of you have left their contact information and expressed their willingness for further cooperation in this direction. Thanks for your interest so far. If you have not done so, we would appreciate it, if you could fill out this survey since statistically more and more meaningful interpretations can be made as your participation increases. It is a short survey which consists of three sections that can be filled at once or different sessions. Many of the questions in the survey were put there purposefully, and they will make you think about how they apply to Jakarta project. You will find them very interesting. One more time, this is a research project,which has many potential implications. This is NOT anything like a spam, it has no commercial nature and it is aiming to contribute to Jakarta just like any other e-mail. We are very dedicated to this research, whose only and only purpose is looking for ways of increasing the quality of open source products. We apologize in advance if you receive duplicates of this e-mail. 80:20 rule, which is the subject of this e-mail is a well observed phenomenon, in many of the large scale software products. These products were produced by IT, Telecom companies, even by NASA. They were developed following different methodologies, they were written in different languages, and the application domain or problems they solve were different. However, 80:20 rule was still observed. This means that you might be developing desktop applications, office software, compiler, kernel, http server, or whatever, most likely you will make a similar observation your project. I included two references at the bottom about it. Both of them are very easy to follow and informative. Also, they are very recent references. The numbers in 80:20 rule are percentages but not of the same quantity. 80% here represents 80% of the target risk, which might be defects, rework, effort, etc. So, you want to reduce them. 20% represents the contributor. You might want to name 20% as modules, component, packages, for the product if you will. A great deal of your goal in a project lies in this 80%. And the observations tell us that this 80% target risk stems from 20% of your modules, or components. If you could only identify this 20% part in what you develop, you would make substantial improvements in quality. The identification techniques could be a subject of another time. But, now, why is this important? Because, some projects never get to a desired level of quality, they can not meet their schedule. People code it, patch it, code it, patch it.. After some time users may loose trust, it may become something which is not manageable any more. So even though, the efforts are made by volunteer programmers, it is sad to see that potential is not used fully. Because these efforts could make even greater contribution to free software and they could end the software monopoly out there more quickly. I am one of those who observes the high amount of traffic in developers lists. This is huge. Everybody looks at one thing, sees it from a different point of view, designs are evaluated, code is tested, fixed, etc. Collaborating, sharing bring many advantages. There is big potential. I can easily tell that in many cases the communities are much larger than many software teams in the industry. So, how come the commercial software can still compete with open source products. One of the reasons is that they have been applying these techniques for years. Now think about the advantages of risk identification techniques and the advantages of open source development combined. Wouldn't it be great? This is where we see the tremendous opportunity. As concluding this e-mail, I repeat my invitation one more time. Please visit: http://www.seas.smu.edu/~gkoru/surveys/dhsurvey.html today/this weekend and help us in this research. If you want to see or remember my previous invitations, they are at the same address. By the way, if you have already completed it and want to change your answers (some did ask this issue) please contact me, we need to identify your unique entry and change it, please do not complete it twice. Thanks for your support so far. Please contact me for any question you might have. Gunes References: 1) Barry Boehm, and Victor R. Basili, Software defect reduction: Top 10 list, IEEE Computer Magazine, Vol. 34, No.1, pp: 135-137, January 2001. 2) Jeff Tian, Risk identification techniques for defect reduction and quality improvement, Software Quality Professional, 2(2):32-41, Mar 2000. --
Re: karma for jakarta-site2
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, mohammad nabil wrote: Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 14:39:51 +0200 From: mohammad nabil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: karma for jakarta-site2 hi, hope somehuman read any of my mails to jakarta community. i would like to help in any thing, but it seems that only mail machines read my email :s i hope to hear from any one alife at there :D Mohammed, The best way to get involved at Jakarta is to find one or more projects you are really interested in, sign up for the developer mailing lists, and start submitting patches and enhancements. The general procedures are outlined on the Jakarta web site, starting at: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html Welcome! Craig -Mohammad Nabil From: Jeff Dever [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: karma for jakarta-site2 Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:28:04 -0400 I would like to add some info to the jakarta-site2 module. Could somone hit me with the karma? Jeff Dever HttpClient 2.0 release manager -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
Considering that there are a handful of committers compared to actual users, I suppose I meant that I think it would be more interesting to see where the distribution of users lies. (if that particular data is being collected through this mailing than those that do not read it would not be able to respond). =P with california in mind, I think it would be more interesting to see if any scientologists exist outside of CA rather then committers. =s Andrew C. Oliver To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] acoliver@apac cc: he.org Subject: Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we? 10/04/02 11:36 AM Please respond to Jakarta General List is that an indication of activity or the opposite ;-) On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 10:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be more interested in finding out about the users who are active enough to read this list. Andrew C. Oliver To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] acoliver@apac cc: he.org Subject: Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we? 10/04/02 09:49 AM Please respond to Jakarta General List I'd be more interested to hear statistics on how many people are California-based versus non-California based. (It would help me with my research into Apache cultures and cliches ;-) for a paper I'm writing ) On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 08:41, Jeff Turner wrote: Carnegie Mellon did a survey of ~300 Apache developers (56 committers) a while ago, and posted interim results to respondents last month. With the permission of the researcher, here are some stats: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 03:35:18PM +0100, Danny Angus wrote: Vincent Massol once wrote: I was curious to know who the other committers where, whether they shared the same beliefs I have, etc. This prompted me to wonder: 1/ are we.. a)male b)female 98.89% male 1.11% female 2/are we a) young b) 20-30 c) 30-40 d) 40-50 d) old 19 : 1.1% 20-29 : 50.55% 30-39 : 41.03% 40-49 : 6.59% 50 : 0.73% 3/about English a)its my native language b)its a second language, I live in an English speaking country c)I'm fluent but I live in a non-English speaking country d)other, tell me.. Strangely they didn't ask this. However, 90% of people come from what I hazily regard as English speaking countries (US, England, Aus, NZ). 4/do we have a)a full beard b)a goatee c)a moustache d)noneoftheabove 5/wear sandals a)never b)sometimes c)always Nor did they ask these, missing a golden opportunity to come up with an identikit-style portait of J Random Apache Hacker. The person running the survey is Jeff Roberts (jroberts at andrew.cmu.edu). --Jeff d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:
RE: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule
So, how come the commercial software can still compete with open source products. IMHO its because on the whole OpenSource contributors are not doing it to compete with commercial software, in fact many of us do this to provide an alternative to the daily pressures, restrictive working practices and profit driven project management of commercial IT. We're either much less interested in producing a competitor for a commercial product than producing an intelligent, elegant and efficient solution to a particular problem, or we're here to collaborate on a product to use in our own commercial interests, not in competing in the market place. Yes? No? d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
On 4/10/02 14:49, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be more interested to hear statistics on how many people are California-based versus non-California based. (It would help me with my research into Apache cultures and cliches ;-) for a paper I'm writing ) More than being in CA, I would say, how many of us have been there and did the Silicon Valley thing... I'm saying that because I spent 2 years in CA, and feel strongly related to that environment... Only thing is now I live in London (UK)... Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
-Original Message- From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:49 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we? I'd be more interested to hear statistics on how many people are California-based versus non-California based. Isn't that covered by 3c, I'm fluent but I live in a non-English speaking country? ;-) I guess you're looking for more detail, though... -- Martin Cooper (It would help me with my research into Apache cultures and cliches ;-) for a paper I'm writing ) On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 08:41, Jeff Turner wrote: Carnegie Mellon did a survey of ~300 Apache developers (56 committers) a while ago, and posted interim results to respondents last month. With the permission of the researcher, here are some stats: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 03:35:18PM +0100, Danny Angus wrote: Vincent Massol once wrote: I was curious to know who the other committers where, whether they shared the same beliefs I have, etc. This prompted me to wonder: 1/ are we.. a)male b)female 98.89% male 1.11% female 2/are we a) young b) 20-30 c) 30-40 d) 40-50 d) old 19 : 1.1% 20-29 : 50.55% 30-39 : 41.03% 40-49 : 6.59% 50 : 0.73% 3/about English a)its my native language b)its a second language, I live in an English speaking country c)I'm fluent but I live in a non-English speaking country d)other, tell me.. Strangely they didn't ask this. However, 90% of people come from what I hazily regard as English speaking countries (US, England, Aus, NZ). 4/do we have a)a full beard b)a goatee c)a moustache d)noneoftheabove 5/wear sandals a)never b)sometimes c)always Nor did they ask these, missing a golden opportunity to come up with an identikit-style portait of J Random Apache Hacker. The person running the survey is Jeff Roberts (jroberts at andrew.cmu.edu). --Jeff d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
;-) On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 23:17, Martin Cooper wrote: -Original Message- From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:49 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we? I'd be more interested to hear statistics on how many people are California-based versus non-California based. Isn't that covered by 3c, I'm fluent but I live in a non-English speaking country? ;-) I guess you're looking for more detail, though... -- Martin Cooper (It would help me with my research into Apache cultures and cliches ;-) for a paper I'm writing ) On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 08:41, Jeff Turner wrote: Carnegie Mellon did a survey of ~300 Apache developers (56 committers) a while ago, and posted interim results to respondents last month. With the permission of the researcher, here are some stats: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 03:35:18PM +0100, Danny Angus wrote: Vincent Massol once wrote: I was curious to know who the other committers where, whether they shared the same beliefs I have, etc. This prompted me to wonder: 1/ are we.. a)male b)female 98.89% male 1.11% female 2/are we a) young b) 20-30 c) 30-40 d) 40-50 d) old 19 : 1.1% 20-29 : 50.55% 30-39 : 41.03% 40-49 : 6.59% 50 : 0.73% 3/about English a)its my native language b)its a second language, I live in an English speaking country c)I'm fluent but I live in a non-English speaking country d)other, tell me.. Strangely they didn't ask this. However, 90% of people come from what I hazily regard as English speaking countries (US, England, Aus, NZ). 4/do we have a)a full beard b)a goatee c)a moustache d)noneoftheabove 5/wear sandals a)never b)sometimes c)always Nor did they ask these, missing a golden opportunity to come up with an identikit-style portait of J Random Apache Hacker. The person running the survey is Jeff Roberts (jroberts at andrew.cmu.edu). --Jeff d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 02:44:19 +0100 From: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we? On 4/10/02 14:49, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be more interested to hear statistics on how many people are California-based versus non-California based. (It would help me with my research into Apache cultures and cliches ;-) for a paper I'm writing ) More than being in CA, I would say, how many of us have been there and did the Silicon Valley thing... I'm saying that because I spent 2 years in CA, and feel strongly related to that environment... Only thing is now I live in London (UK)... I appreciate the willingness of Pier (and others) to work there. All I can say is that *not* moving to the Bay Area was a condition of me accepting my job at Sun ... :-) Pier Craig McClanahan (happily working from Portland, Oregon) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
