Re: Mozilla mail filters

[Laurie Harper]

On 11/20/02 9:54 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Like a bazillion of other people... Folks, you can't just _forbid_ me to
> watch my daily porn just because you want news... Once I'm done with this
> deadline, I'll move some stuff over somewhere else...

LOL, that'll teach you for telling us what you've got before it's stable :=)
Seriously, let me know if I can help; this is a cool service to have. I did
a bit of NNTP server administration once upon a time so if I can remember
how these things work and pitch in some support I'd be happy to.

L.


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta

[Jon Scott Stevens]

on 2002/11/20 7:06 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tapestry is re-organizing internally to meet the goals of a Jakarta project
> *before* a formal proposal is sent to the PMC.  That is, we're now following
> Apache meritocracy rules, changing the license to ASL, etc.  Doing this before
> attempting a move to Jakarta, rather than after, is in everyone's interests.

Smart idea. Get used to working under Jakarta rules and see if you like it.
Then decide to propose to join.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta

[hlship]

Tapestry is re-organizing internally to meet the goals of a Jakarta project 
*before* a formal proposal is sent to the PMC.  That is, we're now following 
Apache meritocracy rules, changing the license to ASL, etc.  Doing this before 
attempting a move to Jakarta, rather than after, is in everyone's interests.  

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Re: Mozilla mail filters

[Pier Fumagalli]

On 20/11/02 23:11, "Laurie Harper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Damn, I was enjoying using that ;-) Is it coming back?

Like a bazillion of other people... Folks, you can't just _forbid_ me to
watch my daily porn just because you want news... Once I'm done with this
deadline, I'll move some stuff over somewhere else...

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[OT] RE: Ben Franklin and Open Source:

[micael]

I like that thinking, James.  I think, however, that the extrinsic works of 
Plato are the first, i.e. the dialogues.  Do you know that the original 
Greek for the Platonic dialogue commonly called the "Symposium" means 
"Booze Party"?  The "sym" means with (sym-biotic, sym-phony) and the 
"posium" means "intoxicant".  That should be something for a certain Friday 
guy in this list to think about, eh?

At 03:12 PM 11/20/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Well, I believe the spirit of the Open Source movement dates back to Martin
Luther..but that's just my $.02


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> -Original Message-
> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of V. Cekvenich
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 2:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Ben Franklin and Open Source:
>
>
> Repost from SVLUG:
>
> "Bill Kendrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>  >
>  > I was listening to Marketplace (which plays on KXJZ at 6:30pm weekdays;
>  > http://www.marketplace.org/ ) and at one point they were
> talking about an
>  > upcoming PBS show on Benjamin Franklin.  They briefly spoke with one
>  > Mr. Walter Isaacson, chairman and CEO of CNN [*], as he also happens to
>  > be writing a book on Franklin.
>  >
>  > At one point, Isaacson mentioned that Franklin never sought any
> patents on
>  > what he invented.  To my surprise [**], Marketplace's host, David
> Brancaccio,
>  > pointed out the similarity between that and the Open Source movement.
>  > Isaacson responded "Yes!", and stated that if Franklin were
> alive today,
>  > he'd probably be very much part of that movement. :^)
>  >
>  >
>  > Pretty neat. :^)
>  >
>  > -bill!
>  >
>  > [*] I believe.  He's _something_ at CNN.  Best I can find Google'ing
> is that
>  > he _was_ fairly recently.
>  >
>  > [**] Maybe I'm thinking like it's 1999, and nobody knows what
>  >  Lie-nicks is. ;^)  I guess it's hard to get used to.
>  >  We, the Open Source community, really _are_ famous and
> important and
>  >  note-worthy.  Woo-hoo!
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Re: Mozilla mail filters

[Laurie Harper]

Damn, I was enjoying using that ;-) Is it coming back?

L.

On 11/20/02 3:56 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Laurie Harper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Hmm, doesn't seem to be working at all for me :-( Did the server go down?
> 
> I took it down yesterday night.
> 
>   Pier
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RE: More fun with unused/duplicate/unnecessary import statements

[Lavandowska]

Fantastic!  Thanks!

--- Tom Copeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Done:
> 
> http://cvs.apache.org/~tcopeland/bad_imports_20_nov_02.htm
> 
> Tom
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lavandowska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 

> > This is really neat, could you add a "percentage" column though,
> just
> > to save me from trying to do the math in my head?
> > 
> > Thanks.


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Re: Ben Franklin and Open Source:

[Stéphane MOR]

V. Cekvenich wrote:


Repost from SVLUG:

"Bill Kendrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I was listening to Marketplace (which plays on KXJZ at 6:30pm weekdays;
> http://www.marketplace.org/ ) and at one point they were talking 
about an
> upcoming PBS show on Benjamin Franklin.  They briefly spoke with one
> Mr. Walter Isaacson, chairman and CEO of CNN [*], as he also happens to
> be writing a book on Franklin.
>
> At one point, Isaacson mentioned that Franklin never sought any 
patents on
> what he invented.  To my surprise [**], Marketplace's host, David 
Brancaccio,
> pointed out the similarity between that and the Open Source movement.
> Isaacson responded "Yes!", and stated that if Franklin were alive 
today,
> he'd probably be very much part of that movement. :^) 

He could probably have built a "Apache Hardware Foundation" ! ;-p

Cheers,
Stéphane



>
>
> Pretty neat. :^)
>
> -bill!
>
> [*] I believe.  He's _something_ at CNN.  Best I can find Google'ing 
is that
> he _was_ fairly recently.
>
> [**] Maybe I'm thinking like it's 1999, and nobody knows what
>  Lie-nicks is. ;^)  I guess it's hard to get used to.
>  We, the Open Source community, really _are_ famous and 
important and
>  note-worthy.  Woo-hoo!
>
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Re: Mozilla mail filters

[Pier Fumagalli]

"Laurie Harper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hmm, doesn't seem to be working at all for me :-( Did the server go down?

I took it down yesterday night.

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RE: More fun with unused/duplicate/unnecessary import statements

[Oliver Burn]

Probably the best way to create patch to remove unused imports would
be to use an IDE like Eclipse. It provides an easy way to "organise
imports" for a project, which will:

  - Sort the imports in the order you specify

  - Remove unused imports.


You could then use Eclipse (or your favourite method) to generate
a patch.

Regards,
Oliver

> -Original Message-
> From: Dominique Devienne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2002 07:23
> To: 'Jakarta General List'
> Subject: RE: More fun with unused/duplicate/unnecessary import
> statements
> 
> 
> Being new to this particular list, may I inquire about the info gathering
> and reporting tools used? Checkstyle? Others? Thanks.
> 
> Any chance to be able to auto-generate bumbled patches per project fixing
> the unused imports?
> 
> Just asking ;-) --DD
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Copeland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 2:17 PM
> To: 'Jakarta General List'
> Subject: More fun with unused/duplicate/unnecessary import statements
> 
> Here's the same sort of report that I posted a couple weeks ago, but
> this time it includes stuff like:
> 
> 
> package foo.bar;
> import foo.bar.Baz;
> public class Buz {}
> 
> 
> i.e., imports from the same package.  Numbers are about the same
> 
> http://cvs.apache.org/~tcopeland/bad_imports_20_nov_02.htm
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Tom
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RE: More fun with unused/duplicate/unnecessary import statements

[Tom Copeland]

I generated the report using http://pmd.sf.net/ and some Ruby code -
I'll send it to you in another email.

That would be cool if we could autogenerate patches to fix this stuff.
The console interface to PMD can generate a report like:

==
c:\j2sdk1.4.1_01\src\java\awt\Component.java44  No need to
import a type that's in the same package
c:\j2sdk1.4.1_01\src\java\awt\Cursor.java   9   No need to
import a type that's in the same package
c:\j2sdk1.4.1_01\src\java\awt\Cursor.java   10  No need to
import a type that's in the same package
c:\j2sdk1.4.1_01\src\java\awt\Cursor.java   11  No need to
import a type that's in the same package
c:\j2sdk1.4.1_01\src\java\awt\EventQueue.java   19  No need to
import a type that's in the same package
c:\j2sdk1.4.1_01\src\java\awt\FontMetrics.java  10  No need to
import a type that's in the same package
==

so it probably wouldn't be too hard to write a Perl or Ruby script to
pull out the filenames and line numbers and scrub/diff the offending
files

Yours,

Tom

> -Original Message-
> From: Dominique Devienne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 3:23 PM
> To: 'Jakarta General List'
> Subject: RE: More fun with unused/duplicate/unnecessary 
> import statements
> 
> 
> Being new to this particular list, may I inquire about the 
> info gathering
> and reporting tools used? Checkstyle? Others? Thanks.
> 
> Any chance to be able to auto-generate bumbled patches per 
> project fixing
> the unused imports?
> 
> Just asking ;-) --DD
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Copeland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 2:17 PM
> To: 'Jakarta General List'
> Subject: More fun with unused/duplicate/unnecessary import statements
> 
> Here's the same sort of report that I posted a couple weeks ago, but
> this time it includes stuff like:
> 
> 
> package foo.bar;
> import foo.bar.Baz;
> public class Buz {}
> 
> 
> i.e., imports from the same package.  Numbers are about the same
> 
http://cvs.apache.org/~tcopeland/bad_imports_20_nov_02.htm

Yours,

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RE: More fun with unused/duplicate/unnecessary import statements

[Tom Copeland]

Done:

http://cvs.apache.org/~tcopeland/bad_imports_20_nov_02.htm

Tom

> -Original Message-
> From: Lavandowska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 3:26 PM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: More fun with unused/duplicate/unnecessary 
> import statements
> 
> 
> This is really neat, could you add a "percentage" column though, just
> to save me from trying to do the math in my head?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> --- Tom Copeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > i.e., imports from the same package.  Numbers are about the same
> > 
> > http://cvs.apache.org/~tcopeland/bad_imports_20_nov_02.htm
> 
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Re: More fun with unused/duplicate/unnecessary import statements

[Lavandowska]

This is really neat, could you add a "percentage" column though, just
to save me from trying to do the math in my head?

Thanks.

--- Tom Copeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i.e., imports from the same package.  Numbers are about the same
> 
> http://cvs.apache.org/~tcopeland/bad_imports_20_nov_02.htm


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RE: More fun with unused/duplicate/unnecessary import statements

[Dominique Devienne]

Being new to this particular list, may I inquire about the info gathering
and reporting tools used? Checkstyle? Others? Thanks.

Any chance to be able to auto-generate bumbled patches per project fixing
the unused imports?

Just asking ;-) --DD

-Original Message-
From: Tom Copeland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 2:17 PM
To: 'Jakarta General List'
Subject: More fun with unused/duplicate/unnecessary import statements

Here's the same sort of report that I posted a couple weeks ago, but
this time it includes stuff like:


package foo.bar;
import foo.bar.Baz;
public class Buz {}


i.e., imports from the same package.  Numbers are about the same

http://cvs.apache.org/~tcopeland/bad_imports_20_nov_02.htm

Yours,

Tom

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More fun with unused/duplicate/unnecessary import statements

[Tom Copeland]

Here's the same sort of report that I posted a couple weeks ago, but
this time it includes stuff like:


package foo.bar;
import foo.bar.Baz;
public class Buz {}


i.e., imports from the same package.  Numbers are about the same

http://cvs.apache.org/~tcopeland/bad_imports_20_nov_02.htm

Yours,

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RE: Ben Franklin and Open Source:

[James Mitchell]

Well, I believe the spirit of the Open Source movement dates back to Martin
Luther..but that's just my $.02


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> -Original Message-
> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of V. Cekvenich
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 2:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Ben Franklin and Open Source:
>
>
> Repost from SVLUG:
>
> "Bill Kendrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>  >
>  > I was listening to Marketplace (which plays on KXJZ at 6:30pm weekdays;
>  > http://www.marketplace.org/ ) and at one point they were
> talking about an
>  > upcoming PBS show on Benjamin Franklin.  They briefly spoke with one
>  > Mr. Walter Isaacson, chairman and CEO of CNN [*], as he also happens to
>  > be writing a book on Franklin.
>  >
>  > At one point, Isaacson mentioned that Franklin never sought any
> patents on
>  > what he invented.  To my surprise [**], Marketplace's host, David
> Brancaccio,
>  > pointed out the similarity between that and the Open Source movement.
>  > Isaacson responded "Yes!", and stated that if Franklin were
> alive today,
>  > he'd probably be very much part of that movement. :^)
>  >
>  >
>  > Pretty neat. :^)
>  >
>  > -bill!
>  >
>  > [*] I believe.  He's _something_ at CNN.  Best I can find Google'ing
> is that
>  > he _was_ fairly recently.
>  >
>  > [**] Maybe I'm thinking like it's 1999, and nobody knows what
>  >  Lie-nicks is. ;^)  I guess it's hard to get used to.
>  >  We, the Open Source community, really _are_ famous and
> important and
>  >  note-worthy.  Woo-hoo!
>  >
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Ben Franklin and Open Source:

[V. Cekvenich]

Repost from SVLUG:

"Bill Kendrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I was listening to Marketplace (which plays on KXJZ at 6:30pm weekdays;
> http://www.marketplace.org/ ) and at one point they were talking about an
> upcoming PBS show on Benjamin Franklin.  They briefly spoke with one
> Mr. Walter Isaacson, chairman and CEO of CNN [*], as he also happens to
> be writing a book on Franklin.
>
> At one point, Isaacson mentioned that Franklin never sought any 
patents on
> what he invented.  To my surprise [**], Marketplace's host, David 
Brancaccio,
> pointed out the similarity between that and the Open Source movement.
> Isaacson responded "Yes!", and stated that if Franklin were alive today,
> he'd probably be very much part of that movement. :^)
>
>
> Pretty neat. :^)
>
> -bill!
>
> [*] I believe.  He's _something_ at CNN.  Best I can find Google'ing 
is that
> he _was_ fairly recently.
>
> [**] Maybe I'm thinking like it's 1999, and nobody knows what
>  Lie-nicks is. ;^)  I guess it's hard to get used to.
>  We, the Open Source community, really _are_ famous and important and
>  note-worthy.  Woo-hoo!
>
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