Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Update of "JakartaBoardReport-current" by RolandWeber

2007-02-19 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I've added it to the board template :)

Mvgr,
Martin

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> Martin, you might want to update your template
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[Jakarta Wiki] Update of "BoardReportTemplate" by MartinvandenBemt

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[Jakarta Wiki] Update of "JakartaBoardReport-current" by RolandWeber

2007-02-19 Thread Apache Wiki
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Martin, you might want to update your template

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  ''!FileUpload''
  
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  ''IO''
  
  ''Jelly''
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[Jakarta Wiki] Update of "JakartaBoardReport-current" by MartinvandenBemt

2007-02-19 Thread Apache Wiki
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New current report

New page:
== Month Year Board Report ==

=== Status ===

Chair to summarize Jakarta-wide news + the current state of affairs. 

=== Releases ===

A list of the released versions/distributions in this month.

=== Community changes ===

New committers, pmc persons, asf members and departures.

=== Infrastructure news ===

Changes to the projects infrastructure. Migrations to Subversion, new vmware 
instances etc.

=== Subproject news ===

News related to various subprojects, if they have news. Volunteers for 
subproject news are desired, otherwise the Chair is responsible for finding out 
said news (and should mark that they had to do so). 

 BCEL 

 BSF 

 Cactus 

 Commons 

''Attributes''

''!BeanUtils''

''Betwixt''

''Chain''

''CLI''

''Codec''

''Collections''

''Configuration''

''Daemon''

''DBCP''

''!DbUtils''

''Digester''

''Discovery''

''EL''

''Email''

''!FileUpload''

''!HttpClient''

''IO''

''Jelly''

''Jexl''

''JXPath''

''Lang''

''Launcher''

''Logging''

''Math''

''Modeler''

''Net''

''Pool''

''Primitives''

''SCXML''

''Transaction''

''Validator''

''VFS''


''Dormant''

''Sandbox''


 ECS 

 HttpComponents 

 JCD 

 JMeter 

 ORO 

 POI 

 Regexp 

 Slide 

 Taglibs 

 Turbine 

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Jakarta board Report February

2007-02-19 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Jakarta Board Report

Status

This board report was mainly constructed by other people than me,
which is a big improvement (thanks everyone). I also moved the board
report to a fixed location on the wiki
(http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current), so it's
easier to locate for people. The code grant for the not yet commons
SSL (formerly named commons-ssl), has been completed, so we can
progress to having a vote where SSL should end up on general and
based on that result take the correct incubator path (legal /
full incubation).

What is not completely clear for me at this point, is the board
report schedule. An extra report was requested (lack of commons
projects in the report). Reporting next month again will be a lot of
work, since my goal is to report on every subproject (even if there
is no or hardly any activity).

Inactive projects

Disclaimer : we have lot's of active projects !

Definition list :

Inactive project = a project that has no *developer* community.

The Apache Way :

To become committer on a project you have to earn that right, you
have to stand out, submit patches, show you care, learn the apache
way and have to get noticed by the current committers who can
nominate such a person.

Problem :

If that didn't happen enough in the past, it can happen that at a
certain point no developer community is active anymore.

Which causes :

A catch22 situation. Since there is no developer community, no one
is able to determine if people deserve to become a committer. Even if
you are monitoring such a list (such as I do for all Jakarta lists),
it is hard to determine if people deserve committership.

Solution :

The only thing we know for sure : inactive projects needs someone to
mentor the project to become active again. This goes for all possible
scenario's :

1. Actively support forks and when they show they are capable to work
   on the project, get the code back (needs mentoring, grants, etc)
2. More liberal in getting committers on board
3. Actively following the user / dev lists and issue trackers to see
   if there is someone ready for committer ship. (is the normal way,
   although the focus here is not if patches etc are technically
   correct)

I like to prevent Jakarta becoming some kind of collection with
inactive project, so the first goal is preventing that this scenario
occurs on our current subprojects where possible. So I would like to
ask the current active developers to invest a little bit more time in
looking what others are doing.

I think this discussion is also useful to have on the incubator list.
Releases

* 13 February 2007 Commons Lang 2.3
* 13 February 2007 Commons IO 1.3.1
* 30 January 2007 Commons IO 1.3
* 30 December 2006 Commons Betwixt 0.8
* 30 December 2006 Commons VFS 1.0
* 19 December 2006 Commons SCXML 0.6

Community changes

New committers, pmc persons, asf members and departures.

PMC Members

* Yoav Shapira resigned from the PMC

The following new commiters were voted in:

* Yegor Kozlov (POI)
* Luc Maisonobe (Commons Math)
* Matt Benson (Commons JXPath)

Infrastructure news

Started to investigate the moderators we have and contacting all the
moderators asking if they are still active. If there are gaps, I will
try to fill the void by finding volunteers. This way we prevent that
lists aren't moderated.

Subproject news

Sections with a prefix of MvdB are notes added by the chair

BCEL

MvdB :

Some user questions, further no action taken on the future of BCEL
(on the list is contacting the 2 currently exising forks out there,
to see if there is interenst in moving development back to Jakarta.
Afaik Findbugs and AspectJ have forks.

BSF

MvdB :

They are currently planning for a 3.0 release and for jsr223 they
are investigating to get the TCK. Geir is in the process of
arranging things.

Cactus

MvdB :

Cactus development was stalled and recently Petar Tahchiev sent a
mail to the list, saying he had continued development of cactus on
https://mamouth.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/mamouth. I
(=Martin van den Bemt) am currently in the process of informing
Petar on what actions to take (eg Code Grants/CLA/CCLA) to move
development back to the cactus project. When the paperwork is there,
we will run the code base through the incubator (at a minimum legal).


Commons

Switching from Maven-1 to Maven-2 gets closer - we can now build the
website from Maven-2. Next we need to look at how we would do a
release under Maven-2 and whether it passes our requirements.

Key:

* Inactive - No activity, no one watching it. Candidate for dormancy.
* Maintenance - No activity, someone watching it.

There are thirty-two components in the Commons 'Proper', that is the
released components.

Attributes

Inactive - however the last release had an issue so a new release
ideally needs to be done.

BeanUtils

Maintenance. A 1.8.0 release is slowly being worked on. Struts were a
major user, however they've moved on to using OGNL in 

[Jakarta Wiki] Update of "JakartaBoardReport-February2007" by MartinvandenBemt

2007-02-19 Thread Apache Wiki
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Personal notes and some additions

--
  
  === Status ===
  
- Chair to summarize Jakarta-wide news + the current state of affairs.
+ This board report was mainly constructed by other people than me, which is a 
big improvement (thanks everyone). I also moved the board report to a fixed 
location on the wiki 
(http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current), so it's easier to 
locate for people.
+ The code grant for the not yet commons SSL (formerly named commons-ssl), has 
been completed, so we can progress to having a vote where SSL should end up on 
general and based on that result take the correct incubator path (legal / full 
incubation).
+ 
+ What is not completely clear for me at this point, is the board report 
schedule. An extra report was requested (lack of commons projects in the 
report). Reporting next month again will be a lot of work, since my goal is to 
report on every subproject (even if there is no or hardly any activity).
+ 
+ Inactive projects
+ 
+ Disclaimer : we have lot's of active projects !
+ 
+ Definition list :
+ 
+ Inactive project = a project that has no *developer* community.
+ 
+ The Apache Way :
+ 
+ To become committer on a project you have to earn that right, you have to 
stand out, submit patches, show you care, learn the apache way and have to get 
noticed by the current committers who can nominate such a person.
+ 
+ Problem :
+ 
+ If that didn't happen enough in the past, it can happen that at a certain 
point no developer community is active anymore.
+ 
+ Which causes :
+ 
+ A catch22 situation. Since there is no developer community, no one is able to 
determine if people deserve to become a committer. Even if you are monitoring 
such a list (such as I do for all Jakarta lists), it is hard to determine if 
people deserve committership.
+ 
+ Solution :
+ 
+ The only thing we know for sure : inactive projects needs someone to mentor 
the project to become active again. This goes for all possible scenario's :
+ 
+  1. Actively support forks and when they show they are capable to work on the 
project, get the code back (needs mentoring, grants, etc)
+  2. More liberal in getting committers on board
+  3. Actively following the user / dev lists and issue trackers to see if 
there is someone ready for committer ship. (is the normal way, although the 
focus here is not if patches etc are technically correct)
+ 
+ I like to prevent Jakarta becoming some kind of collection with inactive 
project, so the first goal is preventing that this scenario occurs on our 
current subprojects where possible. So I would like to ask the current active 
developers to invest a little bit more time in looking what others are doing.
+ 
+ I think this discussion is also useful to have on the incubator list.
  
  === Releases ===
  
@@ -241, +276 @@

  MvdB :
  
  Added Mark Thomas to the POI Committer list. Actively working on a release, 
which is planned for the beginning of March. After that release next steps will 
be taken in a move to TLP.
+ All headers, notices are up-to-date and the build process have been updated 
to accomodate a correct release.
  
   Regexp 
  

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introducing new tool

2007-02-19 Thread Guy Roth
I'd like to introduce to this forum a new developing tool for the  Java 
community.
It's called JTC and its purpose is to enable web-based application to be 
managed by remote unix command-line by revealing API layer of the java 
application in the linux command line.
So it it concentrate in connecting between Java application and Unix/Linux 
users who prefer to use Command-line instead of graphic GUI.

the project and information about it is available in SourceForge repository at:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jtc-tool/

feel free to add comments in the forum of this project and you will be answered 
shortly

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[Jakarta Wiki] Update of "JakartaBoardReport-February2007" by MartinvandenBemt

2007-02-19 Thread Apache Wiki
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--
  
  === Infrastructure news ===
  
- Changes to the projects infrastructure. Migrations to Subversion, new vmware 
instances etc.
+ Started to investigate the moderators we have and contacting all the 
moderators asking if they are still active. If there are gaps, I will try to 
fill the void by finding volunteers. This way we prevent that lists aren't 
moderated.
  
  === Subproject news ===
  
- News related to various subprojects, if they have news. Volunteers for 
subproject news are desired, otherwise the Chair is responsible for finding out 
said news (and should mark that they had to do so).
+ News related to various subprojects, if they have news. Volunteers for 
subproject news are desired, otherwise the Chair is responsible for finding out 
said news (and should mark that they had to do so). Sections with a prefix of 
MvdB are notes added by the chair
  
   BCEL 
  
+ MvdB :
+ 
+ Some user questions, further no action taken on the future of BCEL (on the 
list is contacting the 2 currently exising forks out there, to see if there is 
interenst in moving development back to Jakarta. Afaik Findbugs and AspectJ 
have forks.
+ 
   BSF 
  
+ MvdB :
+ 
+ They are currently planning for a 3.0 release and for jsr223 they are 
investigating to get the TCK. Geir is in the process of arranging things.
+ 
   Cactus 
+ 
+ MvdB : 
+ 
+ Cactus development was stalled and recently Petar Tahchiev sent a mail to the 
list, saying he had continued development of cactus on 
https://mamouth.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/mamouth. I (=Martin van den Bemt) 
am currently in the process of informing Petar on what actions to take (eg Code 
Grants/CLA/CCLA) to move development back to the cactus project. When the 
paperwork is there, we will run the code base through the incubator (at a 
minimum legal).
  
   Commons 
  
@@ -209, +221 @@

  
   JCS 
  
+ MvdB :
+ 
+ JIRA notifications are send to the list now. Not much development happening 
currently.
+ 
   JMeter 
  
+ MvdB :
+ 
+ Active as always. The concern about the lack of committers for JMeter in my 
last report is weakened by the fact that other people are stil involved, 
although don't currently have any cycles to spare.
+ 
+ 
   ORO 
  
  Apart from the occasional regexp question, the ORO is inactive and ready for 
dormancy.
  
   POI 
  
- Added Mark Thomas to the POI Committer list. Actively working on a release.
+ MvdB :
+ 
+ Added Mark Thomas to the POI Committer list. Actively working on a release, 
which is planned for the beginning of March. After that release next steps will 
be taken in a move to TLP.
  
   Regexp 
  
@@ -225, +248 @@

  
   Slide 
  
+ MvdB :
+ 
+ Activity is picking up and a potential other committer candidate was 
introduced, which means more patches and more activity.
+ I am also currently investigating if I can use Slide for my self, so who 
knows :)
+ 
   Taglibs 
  
  A 1.1.3 release of the Jakarta Standard Taglib is being worked on. The RDC 
taglig has activity - however apart from that all of the taglibs should be 
considered Inactive and available for dormancy.

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+  * ["JakartaBoardReport-February2007"]
   * ["JakartaBoardReport-December2006"]
   * ["JakartaBoardReport-September2006"]
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We are in 2007 it seems

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