sun has to release java

2001-08-15 Thread Nael Mohammad

The only thing preventing Java from manifesting is Sun itself. 

Sun get a clue, you fought MS hard  and won and now you cry wolf when the
leader of the pack refuses to support Java.

What's wrong with you?

Does MS bitch to you not bundling IE for Unix with your Solaris. NO! So why
should they support you, if has no economic value to MS? What EVA is earned
if you refuse to license JAVA to MS? None! So stop the CRYing.

What you should do is let JAVA manifest itself by just donating it to the
OPEN Source community. Just let it go! And Java will be the defacto standar
and not MS.
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RE: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Nael Mohammad

And for more info on WEB Services, visit: http://www.wsj2.com/ and
http://www.sys-con.com/webservices/ and even IBM has a very informative site
on this issue: 
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/

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From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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on 8/8/01 9:59 AM, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All the stuff I've read about for WebServices comprise
 UDDI, SOAP, and WSDL.
 
 The three combined provide a way to automatically discover remote
resources
 that my webapp can use and then actually use it.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned JXTA. Where does that fall into this web
services picture?

http://www.jxta.org/

P.s. This is great discussion. Thanks.

-jon


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What is the Helma XML-RPC ?

2001-07-11 Thread Nael Mohammad

What is the HELM project about?

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-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [RFC] Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta


The XML PMC has voted to accept Helma XML-RPC as an xml.apache.org project.

Unless somone from xml.apache.org voices a serious objection by the end of
Thursday,
we'll start the wheels turning to create the project.

Ted
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 Does anyone else from xml.apache.org have any feedback on this proposal
 one way or the other?

 Ted
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  Jason van Zyl wrote:
  
   Fair enough, I will no longer argue the point. My main concern is that
   the project be granted full autonomy as a project initially as Hannes
   and the rest of the committers become accustomed to xml.apache.org
than
   we can discuss the possible integration with Axis.
  
   Does this sound reasonable?
 
  +1
 
  I'll even volunteer to set up the mailing lists, cvs trees,
authorization,
  etc.  And, of course, integrate it into Gump.  ;-)
 
  - Sam Ruby
 
 
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RE: Binaries in CVS

2001-04-12 Thread Nael Mohammad

Community is king

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From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 12:16 PM
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on 4/12/01 12:00 PM, "Sam Ruby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I stand corrected.  A 1.5K file that is not even well-formed XML and an
 empty directory.  Created and abandoned last year.
 
 My appologies.  At this rate, perhaps my grandkids will be able to use
 CJAN.
 
 - Sam Ruby
 
 P.S.  This is much more fun than REAL work.  ;-)  ;-)  ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

Hey, I tried (and failed) to get people interested in working on this.

Obviously checking in binaries into CVS is a good enough solution for
people.

Community rules.

-jon


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RE: Binaries in CVS

2001-04-12 Thread Nael Mohammad

Can you elaborate on CJAN?

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Binaries in CVS suck, not having binaries in CVS sucks more. Instead of
complaining about them why don't implement CJAN - much more effective than
pissing in the wind. After that it will be bai bai binaries.
 
Cheers,

Pete

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RE: Is open source unamerican...

2001-02-18 Thread Nael Mohammad

How Ironic, the very thing that Microsoft conveyed during anti trust trials,
which is "innovation" and government intervention would only stifle it,
apparently does not apply to us I guessed?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 6:19 PM
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Subject: Is open source "unamerican"...


I found this on another mailing list completely unrelated to Open Source,
and I believe it makes more sense around here :)

Microsoft has completely lost its mind...

http://www.salon.com/tech/log/2001/02/15/unamerican/index.html

Pier

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