Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread Scott Tavares
Vic Cekvenich wrote:

snip


I have been thinking about it, I do not think removing the offeding 
code  is appropriate or sufficient.

If proven, I think offending devlopers, new or old should be baned 
from ASF (and other OSS projects) for a few years. The project should 
be parked. Let it live on SF, why shield it (becuase now ASF has to 
use their lawyers/resources)

ASF should publicly applogize, and as a sign of friendship with OSS, 
do something to help jBoss, such as help with J2EE certification, or 
help with code or something.

Did I say that Stein should be removed, as the person out of all the 
OSS projects out there, did most to ruin the high reputation, trough 
negligence or some other reason.

I feel dirty using Apache Struts today becuase of this mess. I already 
remvoed ASF licnese from basicPortal.sf.net when this was originaly 
done and uses a commons license or something like that.

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Geezz relax Vic, we are talking about software here. It's no life and 
death matter. No one is going to lose their life over this. It's not 
like a U.S. gov. official leaking the name of a CIA operative to the 
public. Give me a break, it sounds like this is going to hit you 
personally in the pocketbook, I can not understand why you are so 
passionate about this. Why are you? Hummm could the real reason be 
that you are trying to pull a M$ and stifle any compentition with 
JBoss?? What is your real issue?



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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-11 Thread Scott Tavares
they are even using the tigris style (http://style.tigris.org) CSS on 
the project page (http://www.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectList)

Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

http://java.net/



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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-11 Thread Scott Tavares
Ya'  i just noticed that...

Christopher Lenz wrote:

That's because it's powered by CollabNet/SourceCast, and CollabNet 
sponsors Tigris. A lot of SourceCast is (or is going to be) built on 
top of Tigris projects like Scarab and Subversion (IIUC).

-chris

Scott Tavares wrote:

they are even using the tigris style (http://style.tigris.org) CSS on 
the project page (http://www.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectList)

Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

http://java.net/



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Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-11 Thread Scott Tavares
I particularly liked what this judge had to say:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=34tmpl=fcin=Techcat=Microsoft_Antitrus
t_Trial

-Scott-

- Original Message -
From: Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Sun Is Losing Its Way

That they can use such a strategy at all is enough proof for me that they
hold an unhealthy monopoly over certain sectors of corporate IT, whatever
any judge might say.

d.


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Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-21 Thread Scott Tavares

For ever cares... Sybase's application server is named Enterprise
Application Server or EAServer and it is a (r) registered trade mark.



- Original Message -
From: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: ApacheForge


 Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  on 2/20/02 8:35 AM, Vladimir Bossicard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Log4J was hosted on SourceForge
  POI was hosted on SourceForge
  BCEL was hosted on SouceForge
 
  My point is that you need 'a' SourceForge to start your project.
 
  No you don't.
 
  http://share.whichever.com
 
  It is just more 'convenient' for developers to use SF.

 As well on our small sites... http://eas.betaversion.org/index.jsp ...
 Ask and thou shall be given (if I like you! SourceForge doesn't actually
 have the I like you requirement, though! :) :) :)

 Pier


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Re: Why is the Tomcat so frisky???

2001-12-16 Thread Scott Tavares

That's just too funny LOL!

- Original Message -
From: Kevin A. Burton - burtonator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 11:31 PM
Subject: Why is the Tomcat so frisky???



 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/

 OK.

 What is the deal with that Tomcat logo?

 I know it is from the old Tomcat product even while it is back at SUN.

 Who was the artist?  Very cool that this was snuck past SUN marketing.

 I mean it is a 2D picture correct?  Why does the kat have 3 legs?

 The point is that the 3rd black leg isn't really a leg.. right?

 I mean Tomcats are really well known for one thing.  If you have seen one
 roaming your neighborhood at 3AM.

 Anyway... would be interesting to hear about how this got created.

 Kevin

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Re: Comment for Apache.org

2001-12-11 Thread Scott Tavares

- Original Message -
From: robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]


snip
 if you want things to change, then you need to do something about it (am i
 sounding like jon? ;) if you were to answer newbie questions - to the best
 of your ability - then jon wouldn't have to make time to answer them.
snip

Who ever said jon HAD to answer anyone? If he can't answer with some
resemblance of a mature adult instead of like a snotty nosed 12yo brat he
should just shut the hell up and say nothing. But just like a snotty nosed
12yo brat it seems he doesn't have the mental capacity to help himself and
therefore needs to be treated like one.




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Re: Comment for Apache.org

2001-12-10 Thread Scott Tavares

Nope!!! jon is a complete ASSHOLE! If YAFF happens it is jon's fault!
Put the responsibility where it belongs... on jon. It's him that keeps
creating these commotions needlessly.

- Original Message -
From: Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: Comment for Apache.org


 lloyd wrote:

 Wow. It would be really great if you wrote an email that made some
logical
 
 
  Having lurked on this list for awhile, I'd say it would be great if you
  could get through one e-mail exchange without being an asshole.


 Not again.

 People, even if you don't like Jon, can we just let this one go please?
 I don't want to see YAFF (Yet Another Flame Fest) on netiquette.





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Re: Comment for Apache.org

2001-12-10 Thread Scott Tavares

- Original Message -
From: Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Comment for Apache.org


 on 12/10/01 4:43 PM, Scott Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Nope!!! jon is a complete ASSHOLE! If YAFF happens it is jon's
fault!
  Put the responsibility where it belongs... on jon. It's him that keeps
  creating these commotions needlessly.

ttp://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html

 p.s. Scott, I love you too.

 -jon



Yes jon, I know how much you love me. My reply to the link is this: Why
should
I contribute anything if all i'm going to get is insulted for my efforts?
You also know that I haven't contributed to the Jakarta project in close to
three years now because you insulted me one too many times.




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