Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-20 Thread Chuck Murcko

decline in FooProduct's intended market works for me. 8^)

+1

Chuck

On Friday, October 19, 2001, at 08:50 AM, Pier Fumagalli wrote:

 Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not 
 linked
 it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 
 votes
 from the PMC.

   http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html

 I will accept any patches against this document and/or direct commits 
 from
 PMC members.

 :-)

 +1... Just remove the word ASP between decline and market in the 
 little
 boxed text :)



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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-19 Thread Peter Donald

On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:48, Sam Ruby wrote:
 Jon Stevens wrote:
  Sam,
 
  I have integrated the changes that you suggested, please take a look.
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html

 +1 on the proposal

+1 from me too 

though I guess I would prefer a less agresive tone ;)


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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-19 Thread Vincent Massol



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 Sam,
 
 I have integrated the changes that you suggested, please take a look.
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html
 
 -jon

+1



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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not linked
 it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 votes
 from the PMC.
 
   http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html
 
 I will accept any patches against this document and/or direct commits from
 PMC members.
 
 :-)

+1... Just remove the word ASP between decline and market in the little
boxed text :)

Pier


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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-19 Thread Jon Stevens

on 10/19/01 5:50 AM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 +1... Just remove the word ASP between decline and market in the little
 boxed text :)
 
   Pier

Why? That was a direct quote.

That isn't M$ ASP, it is 'application service provider'.

-jon


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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 10/19/01 5:50 AM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 +1... Just remove the word ASP between decline and market in the little
 boxed text :)
 
   Pier
 
 Why? That was a direct quote.
 
 That isn't M$ ASP, it is 'application service provider'.

I know, but reading it without the full introduction to the quote makes it
appear as we're talking about M$-ASP, and makes us look bad (not that I
care much about M$ anyway, but...). Another option is expanding it and
replacing it with application service provider in full...

Pier


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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-19 Thread Daniel F. Savarese



+1 

daniel



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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-19 Thread Daniel Rall

Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I know, but reading it without the full introduction to the quote makes it
 appear as we're talking about M$-ASP, and makes us look bad (not that I
 care much about M$ anyway, but...). Another option is expanding it and
 replacing it with application service provider in full...

Expanding it is a good idea.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-19 Thread Peter Donald

On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:53, Daniel Rall wrote:
 Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I know, but reading it without the full introduction to the quote makes
  it appear as we're talking about M$-ASP, and makes us look bad (not
  that I care much about M$ anyway, but...). Another option is expanding
  it and replacing it with application service provider in full...

 Expanding it is a good idea.

But the question remains - why do we need to even mention ASP. Can't we just 
say the FooMarket for the FooProduct has dried up ? ;)

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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-18 Thread Ceki Gülcü


You should remove the last paragraph, otherwise +1. 

At 21:31 17.10.2001 -0700, you wrote:
Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not linked
it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 votes
from the PMC.

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html

I will accept any patches against this document and/or direct commits from
PMC members.

:-)

-jon


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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-18 Thread Sam Ruby

Jon Stevens wrote:

 Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not
linked
 it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1
votes
 from the PMC.

 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html

 I will accept any patches against this document and/or direct commits
from
 PMC members.

Comment on the proposal itself: the Project Management Committee bylaws
(http://jakarta.apache.org/site/management.html) clearly state that
Creation of a new subproject requires approval by 3/4 vote of the PMC.

Furthermore, the still unratified proposal guidelines
(http://jakarta.apache.org/site/proposal.html)  state that It is preferred
but not required that at least one PMC member be a Committer to a new
subproject.  We need to reconcile these two proposals.

Finally, the proposal also suggests that the vote that you are proposing
should also require a supermajority.

Ted: can you take a quick glance at the proposal that you have been
sheperding to ensure that it is current and up to date in your opinion, and
(if so) put it up for a vote?

- Sam Ruby


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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-18 Thread Jon Stevens

Sam,

I have integrated the changes that you suggested, please take a look.

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html

-jon



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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-18 Thread Sam Ruby

Jon Stevens wrote:

 Sam,

 I have integrated the changes that you suggested, please take a look.

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html

+1 on the proposal

- Sam Ruby


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[PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-17 Thread Jon Stevens

Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not linked
it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 votes
from the PMC.

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html

I will accept any patches against this document and/or direct commits from
PMC members.

:-)

-jon


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