RE: Is there a place for Eclipse plugins in Apache/Jakarta land?
Jim, You say, It would seem to me that IDE plugins should be at sourceforge.net or java.net or the like instead of at Jakarta. snip they just don't seem like the kind of thing that the Jakarta community should be focusing on as Jakarta projects. I have to ask you why, because it seems to me that if this software is developed by a project's comitters as part of or in support of their project and licenced under the ASFL it should be here, and its IPR should continue to be owned by the ASF. I would think that it would have to be fairly unpopular, neglected, or badly off-topic before we considered evicting it. You wouldn't consider that a commercial company should only rely on others produce tools to support their core products, why should Jakarta not do the same thing? d. Certainly Velocity, Maven, Struts, etc. should point people to them, but they just don't seem like the kind of thing that the Jakarta community should be focusing on as Jakarta projects. (Of course it does make perfect sense for Jakarta people to be involved on those projects, though.)
Is there a place for Eclipse plugins in Apache/Jakarta land?
Hi, As part of Cactus, we have developed 2 Eclipse plugins. One of them is a generic webapp plugin. We would like to extract this from the Cactus CVS and let others benefit from it. However, I'm not sure where we should put this new project. Obviously one choice is to put it on SourceForge. Before doing this, I wanted to let us decide first if we wanted to have a place in Apache land where we would put such IDE plugins. I think more and more the focus in java land is on usability. Be it Tomcat, Avalon, Maven, etc, they will all have user-oriented front ends to increase user productivity. One obvious place is within their own repository. The real question is about shared plugins, like the webapp one, which would benefit Tomcat users as well as Cactus ones. Any idea? Note: There's no hurry. Just testing the water... :-) Thank you -Vincent - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a place for Eclipse plugins in Apache/Jakarta land?
Vincent Massol wrote: Hi, As part of Cactus, we have developed 2 Eclipse plugins. One of them is a generic webapp plugin. We would like to extract this from the Cactus CVS and let others benefit from it. However, I'm not sure where we should put this new project. Obviously one choice is to put it on SourceForge. Before doing this, I wanted to let us decide first if we wanted to have a place in Apache land where we would put such IDE plugins. evil-grin Have you considered java.net? /evil-grin As you are an established member of this community, if there is a set of others who are also interested in participating, I certainly don't see why this code couldn't remain here. Creating a new cvs tree is easy to do, all it requires is PMC approval. You might also want to consider contributing this to Eclipse. I think more and more the focus in java land is on usability. Be it Tomcat, Avalon, Maven, etc, they will all have user-oriented front ends to increase user productivity. One obvious place is within their own repository. The real question is about shared plugins, like the webapp one, which would benefit Tomcat users as well as Cactus ones. Any idea? Note: There's no hurry. Just testing the water... :-) Thank you -Vincent - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a place for Eclipse plugins in Apache/Jakarta land?
Since Eclipse folks have a directory of Eclipse Plugins already, that is where I would put it. That is where Eclipse developers will look for it. They will not necessarily be using Tomcat or Cactus, for instance. Otis Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Vincent Massol ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, As part of Cactus, we have developed 2 Eclipse plugins. One of them is a generic webapp plugin. We would like to extract this from the Cactus CVS and let others benefit from it. However, I'm not sure where we should put this new project. Obviously one choice is to put it on SourceForge. Before doing this, I wanted to let us decide first if we wanted to have a place in Apache land where we would put such IDE plugins. I think more and more the focus in java land is on usability. Be it Tomcat, Avalon, Maven, etc, they will all have user-oriented front ends to increase user productivity. One obvious place is within their own repository. The real question is about shared plugins, like the webapp one, which would benefit Tomcat users as well as Cactus ones. Any idea? Note: There's no hurry. Just testing the water... :-) Thank you -Vincent - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a place for Eclipse plugins in Apache/Jakarta land?
Since Eclipse folks have a directory of Eclipse Plugins already, that is where I would put it. That is where Eclipse developers will look for it. They will not necessarily be using Tomcat or Cactus, for instance. Otis AFAIK, Eclipse website doesn't really host plugin projects. E.g. an Eclipse plugin for WebObjects, developed inside the ObjectStyle community ( http://objectstyle.org/woproject/ ), is present on Eclipse website at http://www.eclipse.org/community/plugins.html But other than that has no affiliation with Eclipse. So pointing to Eclipse doesn't solve Vincent's problem. Looks like he is really looking for a place to develop a community around the plugin project. IMO this is a good standalone project idea. So it is a choice between Apache and SourceForge I guess. Andrus Adamchik --- ORM + GUI tools - http://objectstyle.org/cayenne/ On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Vincent Massol ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, As part of Cactus, we have developed 2 Eclipse plugins. One of them is a generic webapp plugin. We would like to extract this from the Cactus CVS and let others benefit from it. However, I'm not sure where we should put this new project. Obviously one choice is to put it on SourceForge. Before doing this, I wanted to let us decide first if we wanted to have a place in Apache land where we would put such IDE plugins. I think more and more the focus in java land is on usability. Be it Tomcat, Avalon, Maven, etc, they will all have user-oriented front ends to increase user productivity. One obvious place is within their own repository. The real question is about shared plugins, like the webapp one, which would benefit Tomcat users as well as Cactus ones. Any idea? Note: There's no hurry. Just testing the water... :-) Thank you -Vincent - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a place for Eclipse plugins in Apache/Jakarta land?
So it is a choice between Apache and SourceForge I guess. oo oo oo oo, or java.net Actually, at first glance it seems to be quite a bit slicker than SourceForge at least (not that being slicker than SF in its current state is terribly difficult). =) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a place for Eclipse plugins in Apache/Jakarta land?
Perhaps there should be a Jakarta-IDE project of some description that contains plugins for any number of IDEs (Netbeans, Eclipse, IntelliJ) that relate to Jakarta projects. This could be a home for: * Velocity: http://sourceforge.net/projects/veloedit/ * Maven IDE: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mevenide/ * the Struts IDE plugins And I've seen the cactus on already listed here: http://eclipse-plugins.2y.net/eclipse/plugins.jsp My 2c. Cheers, Brett Andrus Adamchik wrote: Since Eclipse folks have a directory of Eclipse Plugins already, that is where I would put it. That is where Eclipse developers will look for it. They will not necessarily be using Tomcat or Cactus, for instance. Otis AFAIK, Eclipse website doesn't really host plugin projects. E.g. an Eclipse plugin for WebObjects, developed inside the ObjectStyle community ( http://objectstyle.org/woproject/ ), is present on Eclipse website at http://www.eclipse.org/community/plugins.html But other than that has no affiliation with Eclipse. So pointing to Eclipse doesn't solve Vincent's problem. Looks like he is really looking for a place to develop a community around the plugin project. IMO this is a good standalone project idea. So it is a choice between Apache and SourceForge I guess. Andrus Adamchik --- ORM + GUI tools - http://objectstyle.org/cayenne/ On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Vincent Massol ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, As part of Cactus, we have developed 2 Eclipse plugins. One of them is a generic webapp plugin. We would like to extract this from the Cactus CVS and let others benefit from it. However, I'm not sure where we should put this new project. Obviously one choice is to put it on SourceForge. Before doing this, I wanted to let us decide first if we wanted to have a place in Apache land where we would put such IDE plugins. I think more and more the focus in java land is on usability. Be it Tomcat, Avalon, Maven, etc, they will all have user-oriented front ends to increase user productivity. One obvious place is within their own repository. The real question is about shared plugins, like the webapp one, which would benefit Tomcat users as well as Cactus ones. Any idea? Note: There's no hurry. Just testing the water... :-) Thank you -Vincent - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Web Developer f2 network ~ everything essential 02 8596 4437 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is there a place for Eclipse plugins in Apache/Jakarta land?
It would seem to me that IDE plugins should be at sourceforge.net or java.net or the like instead of at Jakarta. Certainly Velocity, Maven, Struts, etc. should point people to them, but they just don't seem like the kind of thing that the Jakarta community should be focusing on as Jakarta projects. (Of course it does make perfect sense for Jakarta people to be involved on those projects, though.) -Jim Moore -Original Message- From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 6:31 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Is there a place for Eclipse plugins in Apache/Jakarta land? Perhaps there should be a Jakarta-IDE project of some description that contains plugins for any number of IDEs (Netbeans, Eclipse, IntelliJ) that relate to Jakarta projects. This could be a home for: * Velocity: http://sourceforge.net/projects/veloedit/ * Maven IDE: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mevenide/ * the Struts IDE plugins And I've seen the cactus on already listed here: http://eclipse-plugins.2y.net/eclipse/plugins.jsp My 2c. Cheers, Brett Andrus Adamchik wrote: Since Eclipse folks have a directory of Eclipse Plugins already, that is where I would put it. That is where Eclipse developers will look for it. They will not necessarily be using Tomcat or Cactus, for instance. Otis AFAIK, Eclipse website doesn't really host plugin projects. E.g. an Eclipse plugin for WebObjects, developed inside the ObjectStyle community ( http://objectstyle.org/woproject/ ), is present on Eclipse website at http://www.eclipse.org/community/plugins.html But other than that has no affiliation with Eclipse. So pointing to Eclipse doesn't solve Vincent's problem. Looks like he is really looking for a place to develop a community around the plugin project. IMO this is a good standalone project idea. So it is a choice between Apache and SourceForge I guess. Andrus Adamchik --- ORM + GUI tools - http://objectstyle.org/cayenne/ On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Vincent Massol ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, As part of Cactus, we have developed 2 Eclipse plugins. One of them is a generic webapp plugin. We would like to extract this from the Cactus CVS and let others benefit from it. However, I'm not sure where we should put this new project. Obviously one choice is to put it on SourceForge. Before doing this, I wanted to let us decide first if we wanted to have a place in Apache land where we would put such IDE plugins. I think more and more the focus in java land is on usability. Be it Tomcat, Avalon, Maven, etc, they will all have user-oriented front ends to increase user productivity. One obvious place is within their own repository. The real question is about shared plugins, like the webapp one, which would benefit Tomcat users as well as Cactus ones. Any idea? Note: There's no hurry. Just testing the water... :-) Thank you -Vincent - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Web Developer f2 network ~ everything essential 02 8596 4437 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
