FW: RE: RE: Jakarta Overview

2002-03-23 Thread Danny Angus



 -Original Message-
 From: acoliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 -- I see a need for more integration documentation and top-down
 documentation.

Jakarta isnt heirarchical, at all, and is in fact grossly federal, with
member projects able to petition to join, cecede, be expelled. There are few
federal laws, but many local ones which vary from project to project, and
federal government in the form of the PMC does not represent all the
interests of each project, or impose homogenaity(or whatever the word is!).

Therefore federal documentation should limit itself to providing a map of
the member projects, and the location their own documnetation.

d.


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Re: FW: RE: RE: Jakarta Overview

2002-03-23 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

I should draw you a diagram of new federalism it would wreck your
mind... ;-)


On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 05:07, Danny Angus wrote:
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: acoliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
  -- I see a need for more integration documentation and top-down
  documentation.
 
 Jakarta isnt heirarchical, at all, and is in fact grossly federal, with
 member projects able to petition to join, cecede, be expelled. There are few
 federal laws, but many local ones which vary from project to project, and
 federal government in the form of the PMC does not represent all the
 interests of each project, or impose homogenaity(or whatever the word is!).
 
 Therefore federal documentation should limit itself to providing a map of
 the member projects, and the location their own documnetation.
 
 d.
 
 
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RE: RE: Jakarta Overview

2002-03-22 Thread Danny Angus

Andy,
Another good point, I do seem to have taken a robustly negative view of all
this. Perhaps too much so.
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Re: Re: Jakarta Overview

2002-03-19 Thread acoliver

+1 - I'd like to see the detractors patch it as they see fit.

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:56:31 -0800 Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#0319

 Thank you for your contribution. 

I would be in favor of having the overview linked off of the About
Jakarta section of the left nav.

Index: project.xml
===
RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/project.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.28
diff -u -u -r1.28 project.xml
--- project.xml17 Mar 2002 11:20:42 -  1.28
project.xml19 Mar 2002 16:55:55 -
@@ -17,6  17,7 @@
 menu name=About Jakarta
 item name=Welcome   href=/index.html/
 item name=News  Status href=/site/news.html/
 item name=Overview  href=/site/overview.html/
 item name=Our Mission   href=/site/mission.html/
 item name=Our FAQs  href=/site/faqs.html/
 item name=Reference Library href=/site/library.html/

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RE: Re: Jakarta Overview

2002-03-19 Thread Waldhoff, Rodney

I'm -1 until someone can clarify how/why this is different from the Jakarta
Subprojects section of the home page.

Why not just add status information to that listing, if that's where the
value-add is?  How many places do we expect developers to update/document
the status of their projects?

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From: acoliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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+1 - I'd like to see the detractors patch it as they see fit.

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:56:31 -0800 Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote.
Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#0319

 Thank you for your contribution. 

I would be in favor of having the overview linked off of the About
Jakarta section of the left nav.

Index: project.xml
===
RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/project.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.28
diff -u -u -r1.28 project.xml
--- project.xml17 Mar 2002 11:20:42 -  1.28
project.xml19 Mar 2002 16:55:55 -
@@ -17,6  17,7 @@
 menu name=About Jakarta
 item name=Welcome   href=/index.html/
 item name=News  Status href=/site/news.html/
 item name=Overview  href=/site/overview.html/
 item name=Our Mission   href=/site/mission.html/
 item name=Our FAQs  href=/site/faqs.html/
 item name=Reference Library href=/site/library.html/

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RE: Re: Jakarta Overview

2002-03-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 13:05, Waldhoff, Rodney wrote:
 I'm -1 until someone can clarify how/why this is different from the Jakarta
 Subprojects section of the home page.
 

Why, perhaps it needs expansion!  I look forward to reading it *duck* 

-Andy documentation lover O.

 Why not just add status information to that listing, if that's where the
 value-add is?  How many places do we expect developers to update/document
 the status of their projects?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: acoliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:16 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Re: Jakarta Overview
 
 
 +1 - I'd like to see the detractors patch it as they see fit.
 
 On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:56:31 -0800 Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote.
 Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#0319
 
  Thank you for your contribution. 
 
 I would be in favor of having the overview linked off of the About
 Jakarta section of the left nav.
 
 Index: project.xml
 ===
 RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/project.xml,v
 retrieving revision 1.28
 diff -u -u -r1.28 project.xml
 --- project.xml  17 Mar 2002 11:20:42 -  1.28
 project.xml  19 Mar 2002 16:55:55 -
 @@ -17,6  17,7 @@
  menu name=About Jakarta
  item name=Welcome   href=/index.html/
  item name=News  Status href=/site/news.html/
  item name=Overview  href=/site/overview.html/
  item name=Our Mission   href=/site/mission.html/
  item name=Our FAQs  href=/site/faqs.html/
  item name=Reference Library href=/site/library.html/
 
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