Re: webservices.apache.org should point to minotaur

2003-08-29 Thread Greg Stein
Yup. There is no need for the rewrite engine. Just use a different vhost
with the redirect. Clean and simple.

/me whacks EdK for using a sledgehammer all the time... :-)

Cheers,
-g

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 04:55:16PM -0700, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
 
 Redirect already does the matching of the end piece; that is, the piece I
 proposed will redirect http://webservices.apache.org/blahblah to
 http://ws.apache.org/blahblah.
 
   Brian
 
 On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Daniel Rall wrote:
  That would avoid mod_rewrite, and conceptually might be a better idea.
  I don't know enough about httpd's internals to say definitively (adding
  infrastructure@ for comment), but assuming it is preferred, something
  like this would catch all URLs:
 
  RedirectMatch permanent ^/(.*)$ http://ws.apache.org/$1
 
  Brian Behlendorf wrote:
   You could have also just created a vhost section specifically for
   webservices.apache.org, and placed a single
  
   Redirect / http://ws.apache.org/
  
   but this works too, looks like.
  
 Brian

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Re: webservices.apache.org should point to minotaur

2003-08-28 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
 I'm confused - are webservices.apache.org and ws.apache.org
 different boxes?? What's the rationale for that? Why do we need
 two separate places - I understand having one as a CNAME for the
 other but that's it.

webservices.apache.org should redirect to ws.apache.org because it's
generally bad form to have two URLs that refer to the same piece of
content.  It pollutes proxies and search engines, for example, and every
time you bring up a new service you need to do so for both hostnames.  If
the canonical name for the project is ws.apache.org, and webservices
is provided as a favor for those who can remember that, that's fine.

Brian



Re: webservices.apache.org should point to minotaur

2003-08-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Whichever is easier and less intrusive :)

-- dims

--- Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Brian Behlendorf wrote:
  On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
  
 I'm confused - are webservices.apache.org and ws.apache.org
 different boxes?? What's the rationale for that? Why do we need
 two separate places - I understand having one as a CNAME for the
 other but that's it.
  
  
  webservices.apache.org should redirect to ws.apache.org because it's
  generally bad form to have two URLs that refer to the same piece of
  content.  It pollutes proxies and search engines, for example, and every
  time you bring up a new service you need to do so for both hostnames.  If
  the canonical name for the project is ws.apache.org, and webservices
  is provided as a favor for those who can remember that, that's fine.
 
 I agree.  Shall I configure this in ws.apache.org's top level .htaccess 
 file, or in minotaur's httpd.conf?
 
 - Dan
 


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Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/


Re: webservices.apache.org should point to minotaur

2003-08-28 Thread Daniel Rall
Brian Behlendorf wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:

I'm confused - are webservices.apache.org and ws.apache.org
different boxes?? What's the rationale for that? Why do we need
two separate places - I understand having one as a CNAME for the
other but that's it.


webservices.apache.org should redirect to ws.apache.org because it's
generally bad form to have two URLs that refer to the same piece of
content.  It pollutes proxies and search engines, for example, and every
time you bring up a new service you need to do so for both hostnames.  If
the canonical name for the project is ws.apache.org, and webservices
is provided as a favor for those who can remember that, that's fine.
I agree.  Shall I configure this in ws.apache.org's top level .htaccess 
file, or in minotaur's httpd.conf?

- Dan



Re: webservices.apache.org should point to minotaur

2003-08-28 Thread Brian Behlendorf

You could have also just created a vhost section specifically for
webservices.apache.org, and placed a single

Redirect / http://ws.apache.org/

but this works too, looks like.

Brian

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Daniel Rall wrote:
 --- /home/dlr/others.conf.orig  Thu Aug 28 12:55:00 2003
 +++ /usr/local/apache2-install/www.apache.org/conf/vhosts/others.conf
 Thu Aug
 28 13:03:38 2003
 @@ -133,6 +133,12 @@
  DocumentRoot /x1/www/ws.apache.org
  ServerName ws.apache.org
  ServerAlias webservices.apache.org ws-new.apache.org
 +
 +   # webservices is a valid alias, but content is accessed via ws.
 +   RewriteEngine on
 +   RewriteOptions inherit
 +   RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} webservices.apache.org [NC]
 +   RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://ws.apache.org$1 [R=permanent,L]
   /VirtualHost

   VirtualHost *


 If there's a way to do this without rewrite rules, I'm all ears.  I
 couldn't come up with one because of the need to get at the HTTP Host
 header.

 Note: This does not avoid the access of the European Patentability
 rules splash screen which is currently up as the index.html page on all
 .apache.org sites.


 - Dan



Re: webservices.apache.org should point to minotaur

2003-08-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Am ok with that. CC'ing WS-PMC as well.

-- dims

--- Brian Behlendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
  Need to redirect webservices.apache.org to the same machine as ws.apache.org
 
 Done.  We really should set up an HTTP redirect to ws.apache.org, though.
 
   Brian
 


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Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/