Re: [gentoo-amd64] How to play flac files?

2006-10-07 Thread Pawel Kraszewski
Dnia środa, 4 października 2006 18:25, Vladimir G. Ivanovic napisał:
 On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 11:49 +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote:
  It is not polite when someone asks a new question on a thread with
  different subject. It is called hijacking and happens when reply is
  used instead of new message.

 Agreed, but my mail reader (Evolution) shows his subject to be How to
 play flac files? which is a new subject. My mail reader shows Patric's
 original email to be a sub-thread of a previous email with a different
 subject, but I would say that this is a bug in Evolution, not that
 hijacking has occurred.

'flac' post has 'References:' field pointing to 'musicbrainz' post. Yes, it IS 
hijacking according to RFC822/RFC2822.

Some programs do threading by 'subject', some by 'references'. The latter is 
IMHO better as it enables [re] [ot] and so on without excessive title parsing 
and doesn't thread independent messages with accidently the same title.

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[gentoo-amd64] Processor Temprature

2006-10-07 Thread Paul Stear
I have started using the athlon cool and quiet facility with cpudyn. However, 
ksensors show that the processor speed reduced from 2200 to 1 during low 
activity but the processor temprature remains at 40 degree C.
I was expecting this to reduce.  Is this temp normal? 
For anybody who has an Athlon 64 3500 - What temps are you showing.

Thanks for any help
Paul
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[gentoo-amd64] Re: doc index

2006-10-07 Thread Duncan
Simon Stelling [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on  Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:53:13 +0200:

 I remember some time ago somebody on this list mentioned that our 
 documentation is somewhat spread all over the gentoo site. I have 
 updated our project page [1] to list all user documentation just on the 
 top and all further resources in a seperate chapter at the bottom of the 
 page. There is not more documentation then before, but at least you now 
 know where to look for it. If it's not listed on the project page, it 
 probably doesn't exist or is not amd64-related.
 
 [1] http://amd64.gentoo.org/

That was me.  Thanks!  It'll be much simpler to tell folks were to look,
now.  =8^)

Two further suggestions:

1) Consider generalizing the bug-filing HOWTO a bit (beyond keywording),
and linking it at the top under documentation.  Gentoo's bugzilla
needs a bit of extra hand-holding the first time or two, even for the
normally pretty technically literate who may have filed bugs elsewhere
before, and this should help a bit with quality plus encouraging them to
be filed.

2) One more line under documentation, mentioning the further resources at
the bottom, might be nice.

Otherwise, looks great, and it's /definitely/ more useful for the average
user than it was before! =8^)

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: doc index

2006-10-07 Thread Simon Stelling

Duncan wrote:

1) Consider generalizing the bug-filing HOWTO a bit (beyond keywording),
and linking it at the top under documentation.  Gentoo's bugzilla
needs a bit of extra hand-holding the first time or two, even for the
normally pretty technically literate who may have filed bugs elsewhere
before, and this should help a bit with quality plus encouraging them to
be filed.


I have deleted all links to this one as it is out of date and there is 
actually not much to do anymore. You can file a bug in a completely 
fubared manner, it will still reach us, thanks to jakub ;) So, I think 
this document is entirely deprecated. Sure, it would probably encourage 
people to file them, but then, at least in regard to ~amd64 keyword 
requests, we're hopelessly overworked. Most of these bugs are lying 
around for a lng time simply because it's even hard for us to keep 
up with the stablization request and normal bugfixing, which both have 
much higher priorities.



2) One more line under documentation, mentioning the further resources at
the bottom, might be nice.


Should show up with the next cvs-www sync. Could make it a link though 
because GuideXML doesn't use semantic anchors for the pages it generates :/


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Processor Temprature

2006-10-07 Thread Brett Johnson
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 02:15:47PM +0100, Paul Stear wrote:
 I have started using the athlon cool and quiet facility with cpudyn. However, 
 ksensors show that the processor speed reduced from 2200 to 1 during low 
 activity but the processor temprature remains at 40 degree C.
 I was expecting this to reduce.  Is this temp normal? 
 For anybody who has an Athlon 64 3500 - What temps are you showing.

I run an Athlon 64 3400 with cool and queit, my processor slows down to
800MHz while idle and the temp is around 32C. Under full load it gets
to 38C ~ 42C depending on room temperature. IIRC when I first built this
rig, I had a similar problem where the CPU never cooled down. After a
bit of research I determined I may have used too much thermal paste
between the CPU and heat sink. After removing the old paste and
reapplying a very very thin coat my system seems to run cooler. In the
dead of winter I have seen the CPU idle as low as 28C (mind you my
ambient room temp in the winter is about 17C).
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[gentoo-amd64] Sylpheed-claws GPG S/MIME support (was: Re: Thread-hijacking)

2006-10-07 Thread Conway S. Smith
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 21:27:02 -0400
Richard Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:02:00 -0600
 Conway S. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I just recently switched from using thunderbird to using
  sylpheed-claws, because I found this and a few other behaviors of
  thunderbird to not be to my liking. 
 
 Hmm - doesn't seem too bad (gotta love IMAP - 10 minutes and I'm up
 and running).
 
 How is the gpg/smime support?  Obviously your message was signed -
 does it prompt for a passphrase or do you need gpg-agent running?
 Maybe I just need to keep tinkering but I don't see any obvious place
 to select a signing key (I did find the SSL cert directory - haven't
 had time to export/import those).
 

GPG support is good, using the standard plugins built by default.  It
does prompt for the passphrase, no need for gpg-agent to be running.
You can choose the GPG key used in Configuration-Edit
Accounts-(Select Account)-Edit-Plugins-GPG.  You can also create a
new key there.

I'm not as familiar with S/MIME, but sylpheed-claws seems to support it
via extra plugins, either (in portage)
mail-client/sylpheed-claws-smime or
mail-client/sylpheed-claws-etpan-privacy.
mail-client/sylpheed-claws-smime is missing an amd64 keyword, but seems
to compile  work OK for me, although it does have a note WARNING:
This plugin doesn't handle sign+encrypt and encryption of multipart
messages very well (yet). and This plugin uses the GPGME library as a
wrapper for GnuPG. This plugin also needs gpgsm, gnupg-agent and
dirmngr installed and configured.  So that plugin is maybe not yet
mature.  I didn't really try the etpan-privacy plugin, as it conflicts
with the standard gpg plugins (it provides both GPG  S/MIME support),
but maybe it's more mature.  You can load  unload the plugins you want
or don't want in Configuration-Plugins.

 Grr - encryption must not be ready for prime time - it considered your
 message encrypted and consequently it wants to encrypt this reply
 (rather rude on mailing lists...)  :)

Odd... when I click reply to my earlier message, it doesn't seem to
consider it encrypted.  Did you double check the Account Privacy
settings to make sure it wasn't set to always encrypt messages?  I
can't think why it would want to encrypt the reply.

Did you try changing those options in thunderbird at all?  They didn't
seem to do anything for me, but they are supposed to work, and I'd be
interested in hearing if they work for someone other than myself.


Conway S. Smith


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