Re: [gentoo-amd64] kernel recompile?

2006-11-02 Thread Michel Merinoff
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 On Tuesday 31 October 2006 09:59, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 about 'Re: [gentoo-amd64] kernel recompile?':
   
 I think gcc version should not have impact on X because NVidia's drivers
 are binary, closed source - they don't care about the gcc used to
 compile the kernel or the X server. Actually I think the emerge only
 installs those drivers and checks for common configuration errors.
 

 No, there's no way to make a pure binary driver that works on all systems, 
 because symbols in the kernel will be at different locations depending on 
 options it was compiled with.


   
Should this mean, that you have to recompile all the drivers already
installed after recompiling the kernel with a new feature added or after
upgrading it up to newer version?
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] kernel recompile?

2006-11-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:48:11 +0300, Michel Merinoff wrote:

  No, there's no way to make a pure binary driver that works on all
  systems, because symbols in the kernel will be at different locations
  depending on options it was compiled with.

 Should this mean, that you have to recompile all the drivers already
 installed after recompiling the kernel with a new feature added or after
 upgrading it up to newer version?

Yes, if you are referring to kernel modules. But most are part of the
kernel tree anyway, so they are updated along with the kernel. The only
ones you need to worry about are things like the Nvidia drivers, some
wireless card drivers and so forth. sys-kernel/module-rebuild can do this
for you, just run it after a kernel compile.


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: 2.6.18 kernel

2006-11-02 Thread Christoph Mende
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 00:42 +, Duncan wrote:
 FWIW, I handle my kernel stuff directly, downloading from kernel.org, not
 thru portage.  Thus, I care not one whit about Gentoo's kernel
 stabilizing.

echo sys-kernel/vanilla-sources ~arch  /etc/portage/package.keywords
emerge vanilla-sources

does exactly the same, difference is that you don't have to check
kernel.org for new released, emerge -u world does it.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: 2.6.18 kernel

2006-11-02 Thread Barry . SCHWARTZ
Christoph Mende [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
 On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 00:42 +, Duncan wrote:
  FWIW, I handle my kernel stuff directly, downloading from kernel.org, not
  thru portage.  Thus, I care not one whit about Gentoo's kernel
  stabilizing.
 
 echo sys-kernel/vanilla-sources ~arch  /etc/portage/package.keywords
 emerge vanilla-sources
 
 does exactly the same, difference is that you don't have to check
 kernel.org for new released, emerge -u world does it.

I’ve found vanilla kernels to be much more reliable on my system than
Gentoo kernels (why I don’t know), and use sys-kernel/vanilla-sources
mainly for the above reason of not having to check kernel.org. Which
makes it slightly funny that, at the moment, I’m using 2.6.18.1 that I
downloaded myself from kernel.org. :)


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Problem with emerge on a dual-processor machine [SOLVED]

2006-11-02 Thread Marek Wróbel
I had the same problem with my computer. I bought early Athlon 64 3000+
on socket 754, mainboard Asus K8V. First I tried 4 different TwinMOS
memory modules (so that weren't no-names), but the system was very
unstable and memtest86+ showed memory errors. Fortunately I could take
Hynix memory instead of TwinMOS paying only the difference. It works
very good until now.

So, it wasn't really a memory problem, it was problem of connection of
memory, mainboard and processor. Especially early Athlons 64 had
problems and worked only with certain memory modules.

Like Duncan said before, if you can, change your memory, and try taking
other brand, it may help.

Regards,
Marek Wróbel
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: 2.6.18 kernel

2006-11-02 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 10:51 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I’ve found vanilla kernels to be much more reliable on my system than
 Gentoo kernels (why I don’t know), 

FYI: I have never had a problem with gentoo kernels. I have had
non-standard modules that would not compile, but updating the modules
fixed those problems.

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