Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Cloning a system drive

2007-10-08 Thread Beso
does this work from hd to external usb disk?

2007/10/7, Brian Litzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 12:49:11AM -0400, Peter Davoust wrote:
  This may be a little noobish, and it may have been said, but can't you
  just install the new drive, partition it identically to the original
  drive and then...
 
  dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1
  dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hdb2
 
  so on and so forth until you've got everything copied? Or event just
 
  dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
 
  Wouldn't that work?

 The latter works fine in my experience.  I do it regularly.

 The downside, is that cloning a 750GB drive takes a while
 as it duplicates everything including unused sectors.

 Things like clonezilla just copy the used/active sectors.

 A popular way is to use sfdisk.  I do not remember the exact
 syntax, but a pair of sfdisk commands can transfer the partition
 information directly between two drives.

 Then use rsync to move the data across.

 You may have to run grub setup on the new disk too.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] latest kernel and ndiswrapper

2007-10-08 Thread Barry Walsh

Mark Haney wrote:

Nuitari wrote:
One of the problems I had with ndiswrapper is that it would just suck 
100% of the CPU and literally do nothing. iwlist scan would show 
nothing.


I just tried bcm43xx and it worked, so I never tried to get 
ndiswrapper back


On Sat, 6 Oct 2007, Beso wrote:



Okay, I'm game, can you send me notes on how to set up bcm43xx?  Or a 
link to a howto?  If that doesn't work I'll muck with ndiswrapper some 
more.





There's a sticky in the forums (thought not obvious due to the name)
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-547687.html
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[gentoo-amd64] iPod issue

2007-10-08 Thread Fernando Boaglio
Hi folks,

Have you guys tried to run iTunes?

Ok, I got gtkPod, but still lacks podcast support and many other stuff.

So I needed iTunes @ my linux box and started working:

1 - installed qemu following GentooWiki HowTo
2 - created xp image disk
3 - installed everything including iTunes
4 - plugged my iPod, got its ID from lsusb output
5 - using -usbdevice tried to run iPod under qemu

And then... my virtual XP was slow as hell and didn't recognize my iPod =(

What can I do now?

Please help =)

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] iPod issue

2007-10-08 Thread Mark Haney

Fernando Boaglio wrote:

Hi folks,

Have you guys tried to run iTunes?

Ok, I got gtkPod, but still lacks podcast support and many other stuff.

So I needed iTunes @ my linux box and started working:

1 - installed qemu following GentooWiki HowTo
2 - created xp image disk
3 - installed everything including iTunes
4 - plugged my iPod, got its ID from lsusb output
5 - using -usbdevice tried to run iPod under qemu

And then... my virtual XP was slow as hell and didn't recognize my iPod =(

What can I do now?

Please help =)

[]'s
Fernando Boaglio


Is this a new ipod?  I read somewhere (Slashdot maybe?) that the new 
IPds have some sort of key that keeps any other app from using the ipod 
except for itunes.




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Re: [gentoo-amd64] iPod issue

2007-10-08 Thread Fernando Boaglio
Not really... I bought the classic 30gb (5th generation).

I wish I could run iTunes anyway =/

On 10/8/07, Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fernando Boaglio wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  Have you guys tried to run iTunes?
 
  Ok, I got gtkPod, but still lacks podcast support and many other stuff.
 
  So I needed iTunes @ my linux box and started working:
 
  1 - installed qemu following GentooWiki HowTo
  2 - created xp image disk
  3 - installed everything including iTunes
  4 - plugged my iPod, got its ID from lsusb output
  5 - using -usbdevice tried to run iPod under qemu
 
  And then... my virtual XP was slow as hell and didn't recognize my iPod =(
 
  What can I do now?
 
  Please help =)
 
  []'s
  Fernando Boaglio

 Is this a new ipod?  I read somewhere (Slashdot maybe?) that the new
 IPds have some sort of key that keeps any other app from using the ipod
 except for itunes.



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] gcc 4.2.1 unstable?

2007-10-08 Thread Christoph Mende
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:09:30 -1000
Joshua Hoblitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Folks,
 
 The reason I ask is that there are
 alot of people (i.e., my users) eager for a version of gcc that supports
 openmp (like gcc 4.2.1+) and many of the specialized openmp compilers
 (like onmi) won't build on amd64.

gcc-4.2.0 and gcc-4.2.1 both support openmp and are in the normal tree.


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] iPod issue

2007-10-08 Thread Beso
ituns should work with wine. try it out. and if you want a dual-boot system
i've just discovered that you can use xen di paravirtualize windows and
linux without any modifications to the base system with the condition that
you have one of these processors:
http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_Processors
of course you have to install a full xen to disk, so you'd have to modify
your base linux distro. on the next pc i'll try it out and learn more about
how to do it.

2007/10/8, Fernando Boaglio [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Not really... I bought the classic 30gb (5th generation).

 I wish I could run iTunes anyway =/

 On 10/8/07, Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Fernando Boaglio wrote:
   Hi folks,
  
   Have you guys tried to run iTunes?
  
   Ok, I got gtkPod, but still lacks podcast support and many other
 stuff.
  
   So I needed iTunes @ my linux box and started working:
  
   1 - installed qemu following GentooWiki HowTo
   2 - created xp image disk
   3 - installed everything including iTunes
   4 - plugged my iPod, got its ID from lsusb output
   5 - using -usbdevice tried to run iPod under qemu
  
   And then... my virtual XP was slow as hell and didn't recognize my
 iPod =(
  
   What can I do now?
  
   Please help =)
  
   []'s
   Fernando Boaglio
 
  Is this a new ipod?  I read somewhere (Slashdot maybe?) that the new
  IPds have some sort of key that keeps any other app from using the ipod
  except for itunes.
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] iPod issue

2007-10-08 Thread Jack Lloyd
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 08:57:10AM -0400, Mark Haney wrote:

 Is this a new ipod?  I read somewhere (Slashdot maybe?) that the new 
 IPds have some sort of key that keeps any other app from using the ipod 
 except for itunes.

It's a simple checksum that has already been reverse engineered. I
don't know about gtkpod, etc but I know gnupod can handle this as of
0.99.4 (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnupod/CHANGES)

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Cloning a system drive

2007-10-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On 10/8/07, Brian Litzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:17:40AM +0200, Beso wrote:
  does this work from hd to external usb disk?

 dd will not work between disparate media.  It is even
 risky between different (capacity, manufacturer) drives.

For my purpose, and I think most anyone in my situation, this is a key
issue. I built this AMD64 machine 2-3 years ago. Any drive I put in
today is going to have completely different drive geometries.

I am buying a drive today and will hopefully get started on this
project this evening to tomorrow. I'm leaning the gparted-clonezilla
direction but not overly confident at this point. Still have much to
learn.

Thanks,
Mark


 If by this you mean the latter stategy involving
 sfdisk/rsync/grub the sfdisk step will mostly not work
 between disparate media.

  2007/10/7, Brian Litzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 12:49:11AM -0400, Peter Davoust wrote:
This may be a little noobish, and it may have been said, but can't you
just install the new drive, partition it identically to the original
drive and then...
   
dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1
dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hdb2
   
so on and so forth until you've got everything copied? Or event just
   
dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
   
Wouldn't that work?
  
   The latter works fine in my experience.  I do it regularly.
  
   The downside, is that cloning a 750GB drive takes a while
   as it duplicates everything including unused sectors.
  
   Things like clonezilla just copy the used/active sectors.
  
   A popular way is to use sfdisk.  I do not remember the exact
   syntax, but a pair of sfdisk commands can transfer the partition
   information directly between two drives.
  
   Then use rsync to move the data across.
  
   You may have to run grub setup on the new disk too.
  
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Cloning a system drive

2007-10-08 Thread Beso
so for backuping a gentoo installation on usb disk is still better to build
a stage4 with the script. i need to make a backup working copy of my gentoo
notebook box and i have only one disk drive. that is the real problem with
using dd or clonezilla...

2007/10/8, Brian Litzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:17:40AM +0200, Beso wrote:
  does this work from hd to external usb disk?

 dd will not work between disparate media.  It is even
 risky between different (capacity, manufacturer) drives.

 If by this you mean the latter stategy involving
 sfdisk/rsync/grub the sfdisk step will mostly not work
 between disparate media.

  2007/10/7, Brian Litzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 12:49:11AM -0400, Peter Davoust wrote:
This may be a little noobish, and it may have been said, but can't
 you
just install the new drive, partition it identically to the original
drive and then...
   
dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1
dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hdb2
   
so on and so forth until you've got everything copied? Or event just
   
dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
   
Wouldn't that work?
  
   The latter works fine in my experience.  I do it regularly.
  
   The downside, is that cloning a 750GB drive takes a while
   as it duplicates everything including unused sectors.
  
   Things like clonezilla just copy the used/active sectors.
  
   A popular way is to use sfdisk.  I do not remember the exact
   syntax, but a pair of sfdisk commands can transfer the partition
   information directly between two drives.
  
   Then use rsync to move the data across.
  
   You may have to run grub setup on the new disk too.
  
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] latest kernel and ndiswrapper

2007-10-08 Thread Mark Haney

Beso wrote:

just compile these modules:



Well after all is said and done, there was a new ndiswrapper ebuild 
sitting in portage this morning, so I emerged it and now everything 
works fine.


But, I've got the bcm43xx modules up and running although I've not tried 
them yet. The reason I mention this is because there was some mention on 
the forum posts about Gentoo's net scripts and wpa_supplicant that 
supposedly makes the bcm43xx setup really easy, does anyone know exactly 
what that means?





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[gentoo-amd64] dmesg output

2007-10-08 Thread Mark Haney
I must be an idiot.  I've been asked several times for dmesg output, so, 
in my debugging interest I try to provide that, but I only seem to get 
the USB mouse input message in it like this:


evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 4, Code: 4, Value: 18
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 1, Code: 18, Value: 0
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 4, Code: 4, Value: 31
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 1, Code: 31, Value: 1
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 4, Code: 4, Value: 31
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 1, Code: 31, Value: 0
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 4, Code: 4, Value: 34
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 1, Code: 34, Value: 1
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 4, Code: 4, Value: 34
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 1, Code: 34, Value: 0
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 4, Code: 4, Value: 28
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 1, Code: 28, Value: 1
evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0


I've never encountered this before, so how do I get rid of that?  Note, 
I've had to compile my USB as a module so that my synaptics mouse pad on 
my laptop to work.  I know it's related to that, but is there a way to 
NOT have that in dmesg?



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Cloning a system drive

2007-10-08 Thread Peter Davoust
It may have already been mentioned, but I read about a program called
PartImage (www.partimage.org). It looks like more of an automatic
backup program, but it does all of the backing up and restoring for
you, I think, and I'm pretty sure you can do manual backups. I've
never personally used it though.

Duncan, I agree, copying the files makes sense, because if you make an
image or tar the files, you're copying the files anyway, but it takes
time to tar the files or make an image. I'm not sure what the time
gained for tar-ing the files is vs. just straight copying them, but
I'd imagine it's a pretty small if there is one. Then again, I'm not
familiar with how tar works, so I could easily be wrong.

-Peter

On 10/8/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 so for backuping a gentoo installation on usb disk is still better to build
 a stage4 with the script. i need to make a backup working copy of my gentoo
 notebook box and i have only one disk drive. that is the real problem with
 using dd or clonezilla...

 2007/10/8, Brian Litzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:17:40AM +0200, Beso wrote:
   does this work from hd to external usb disk?
 
  dd will not work between disparate media.  It is even
  risky between different (capacity, manufacturer) drives.
 
  If by this you mean the latter stategy involving
  sfdisk/rsync/grub the sfdisk step will mostly not work
  between disparate media.
 
   2007/10/7, Brian Litzinger  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 12:49:11AM -0400, Peter Davoust wrote:
 This may be a little noobish, and it may have been said, but can't
 you
 just install the new drive, partition it identically to the original
 drive and then...

 dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1
 dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hdb2

 so on and so forth until you've got everything copied? Or event just

 dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb

 Wouldn't that work?
   
The latter works fine in my experience.  I do it regularly.
   
The downside, is that cloning a 750GB drive takes a while
as it duplicates everything including unused sectors.
   
Things like clonezilla just copy the used/active sectors.
   
A popular way is to use sfdisk.  I do not remember the exact
syntax, but a pair of sfdisk commands can transfer the partition
information directly between two drives.
   
Then use rsync to move the data across.
   
You may have to run grub setup on the new disk too.
   
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] gcc 4.2.1 unstable?

2007-10-08 Thread Joshua Hoblitt
Thanks... I was looking at the wrong internal portage tree. ;)

-J

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On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:35:14PM +0200, Christoph Mende wrote:
 On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:09:30 -1000
 Joshua Hoblitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Folks,
  
  The reason I ask is that there are
  alot of people (i.e., my users) eager for a version of gcc that supports
  openmp (like gcc 4.2.1+) and many of the specialized openmp compilers
  (like onmi) won't build on amd64.
 
 gcc-4.2.0 and gcc-4.2.1 both support openmp and are in the normal tree.




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