Re: [gentoo-amd64] External HD to work with Gentoo and Vista.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Tom uebersh...@googlemail.com wrote: The reason I asked, was, that I generally get the feeling that ntfs-3g offers relatively bad throughput? Is this actually the case, or just my feeling/setup? Does/Would the in-kernel driver offer better performance? Thanks Tom Neither NTFS driver option offers anywhere near the performance of NTFS on Windows (in my experience).
Re: [gentoo-amd64] External HD to work with Gentoo and Vista.
The reason I asked, was, that I generally get the feeling that ntfs-3g offers relatively bad throughput? Is this actually the case, or just my feeling/setup? Does/Would the in-kernel driver offer better performance? Thanks Tom
Re: [gentoo-amd64] External HD to work with Gentoo and Vista.
In recent kernels there is also direct writable support (stable, not experimental support) for NTFS without having to use NTFS-3G/FUSE. Should work with the Vista NTFS version too. plugdev/etc. for mounting still apply though. I've used it a couple times. Personally, I'd rather have direct kernel support than FUSE support. Ben From: Chris Faulkner cfaulkne...@gmail.com To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:04:35 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] External HD to work with Gentoo and Vista. emerge ntfs3g should solve your woes On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Paul Stear gen...@appjaws.plus.com wrote: I thought I had cracked my problem of writing to a usb external ntfs HD, but I was wrong. Let me pose the problem and hopefully somebody out there will be able to set me straight. I have mp3 files on an internal HD in my gentoo box. I back this up to an external usb HD formated for ext2 - no problems. I have now bought another external HD which I want to copy my mp3's to and be able to play them when the external HD is plugged into a vista machine. So the HD is formated with ntfs and works with vista but when I plug it into gentoo and mount either automatically or manually I can not write to the disk. I just get an error message as a user -- Unable to enter file:///mnt/external. You do not have access rights to this location. As root the permissions seem to be correct user=root,Group=root,Owner Can View Modify Content but if I try as user to create a folder I get Could not make folder /mnt/external/New Folder. message. So the question is:- How do I get an external usb disk to be writable on gentoo and vista? Thanks for any help Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux
Re: [gentoo-amd64] External HD to work with Gentoo and Vista.
In recent kernels there is also direct writable support (stable, not experimental support) for NTFS without having to use NTFS-3G/FUSE. Really?? Just how recent do you mean? Is it reliable? Are there any constraints left, such has 'only overwriting files the same size' and such show-stoppers? To make my question really clear: IS IT READY FOR DAILY USE?? If so, I love you, and want your babys Ben, for letting me know... ;) Tom
Re: [gentoo-amd64] External HD to work with Gentoo and Vista.
emerge ntfs3g should solve your woes On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Paul Stear gen...@appjaws.plus.com wrote: I thought I had cracked my problem of writing to a usb external ntfs HD, but I was wrong. Let me pose the problem and hopefully somebody out there will be able to set me straight. I have mp3 files on an internal HD in my gentoo box. I back this up to an external usb HD formated for ext2 - no problems. I have now bought another external HD which I want to copy my mp3's to and be able to play them when the external HD is plugged into a vista machine. So the HD is formated with ntfs and works with vista but when I plug it into gentoo and mount either automatically or manually I can not write to the disk. I just get an error message as a user -- Unable to enter file:///mnt/external. You do not have access rights to this location. As root the permissions seem to be correct user=root,Group=root,Owner Can View Modify Content but if I try as user to create a folder I get Could not make folder /mnt/external/New Folder. message. So the question is:- How do I get an external usb disk to be writable on gentoo and vista? Thanks for any help Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux
Re: [gentoo-amd64] External HD to work with Gentoo and Vista.
and in /etc/fstab: /dev/sdc1 /media/disk4ntfs-3g defaults0 2 replace sdc1 with whatever your drive shows up as in dmesg when you plug it in also be sure to set the /media/ entry and mkdir diskX or however you want to mount it as.
Re: [gentoo-amd64] External HD to work with Gentoo and Vista.
oh and here's a link for ya too: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/NTFS-3G
Re: [gentoo-amd64] External HD to work with Gentoo and Vista.
On Monday 16 March 2009 10:08:03 Chris Faulkner wrote: oh and here's a link for ya too: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/NTFS-3G Thanks to Chris and Duncan for your help. I now have it working and am currently copying all my mp3 files. I had to manually mount the external HD which is straight forward but it would be wonderful if kde/hal/dbus would take care of it for me. I have tried various things but always get the error message that I don't have the correct permissions. Is it possible do you think? Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux
Re: [gentoo-amd64] External HD to work with Gentoo and Vista.
when i plug my external in, it automatically mounts for me.. I just used the ntfs-3g wiki and i think there's another one.. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Paul Stear gen...@appjaws.plus.com wrote: On Monday 16 March 2009 10:08:03 Chris Faulkner wrote: oh and here's a link for ya too: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/NTFS-3G Thanks to Chris and Duncan for your help. I now have it working and am currently copying all my mp3 files. I had to manually mount the external HD which is straight forward but it would be wonderful if kde/hal/dbus would take care of it for me. I have tried various things but always get the error message that I don't have the correct permissions. Is it possible do you think? Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux
Re: [gentoo-amd64] External HD to work with Gentoo and Vista.
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 09:17 -0500, Chris Faulkner wrote: when i plug my external in, it automatically mounts for me.. I just used the ntfs-3g wiki and i think there's another one.. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Paul Stear gen...@appjaws.plus.com wrote: On Monday 16 March 2009 10:08:03 Chris Faulkner wrote: oh and here's a link for ya too: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/NTFS-3G Thanks to Chris and Duncan for your help. I now have it working and am currently copying all my mp3 files. I had to manually mount the external HD which is straight forward but it would be wonderful if kde/hal/dbus would take care of it for me. I have tried various things but always get the error message that I don't have the correct permissions. Is it possible do you think? Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux is your user in plugd?
