Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: | As I said, very soon. It's out. I will begin adding new categories as | necessary and the beginnings of the modular tree tomorrow. What I meant by "tomorrow" was "next week," of course. =) I just made the first commits. Please let me know if I accidentally break anything while I'm at it. Thanks, Donnie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFC9sisXVaO67S1rtsRAuCHAKDbQSFKK/ImvUK0GhEJlvDbgIh/uACgn/TK S/467WUc0HGWjnwgY9NqPq0= =gf6h -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] the default FETCHCOMMAND with broken ssl certificates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jakub Moc wrote: > > > Check Bug 101457. > > How unlucky. I actually came across this problem days ago and searched bugzilla for it. Just didn't get around to writing the email until now. I will add my thoughts to the bug. Regards, Petteri Räty (Betelgeuse) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC9neEcxLzpIGCsLQRAmVjAJ9sIf1EXyPpwwcuM2RM2XDhuqNpCQCdFzqv N4tqpC7By7/SCzoKI6mVY5E= =y5qy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] the default FETCHCOMMAND with broken ssl certificates
7.8.2005, 22:46:39, Petteri Räty wrote: > It is usually not a problem for users because the file gets mirrored but > when doing version bumps I come across this again. As a solution I added > - --no-check-certificate to my FETCHCOMMAND so this will not bother me > again. > So what about adding this as the default for everyone? The > verification > of the download is done on our side so we don't really need the ssl > certificate checking and it would probably be (very?) little faster > without checking. It could also prevent a couple of bug reports from the > users in the future. Check Bug 101457. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) pgpeaLShxq4aF.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] the default FETCHCOMMAND with broken ssl certificates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 One of the java packages, jdictrayapi, is only available over ssl. Here is the output I get if I try downloading it with wget: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/java $ wget https://jdic.dev.java.net/files/documents/880/16466/jdic-0.9.1-src.zip - --23:37:11-- https://jdic.dev.java.net/files/documents/880/16466/jdic-0.9.1-src.zip => `jdic-0.9.1-src.zip' Resolving jdic.dev.java.net... 64.125.133.206 Connecting to jdic.dev.java.net|64.125.133.206|:443... connected. ERROR: Certificate verification error for jdic.dev.java.net: unable to get local issuer certificate To connect to jdic.dev.java.net insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'. Unable to establish SSL connection. It is usually not a problem for users because the file gets mirrored but when doing version bumps I come across this again. As a solution I added - --no-check-certificate to my FETCHCOMMAND so this will not bother me again. So what about adding this as the default for everyone? The verification of the download is done on our side so we don't really need the ssl certificate checking and it would probably be (very?) little faster without checking. It could also prevent a couple of bug reports from the users in the future. Regards, Petteri Räty (Betelgeuse) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC9nMtcxLzpIGCsLQRAlzZAJ4kdzlqoMqAEUkzTtGIx1yrmTh5AQCeKWGA Q+KqbGA8Fn5LhZzUCC+8z5E= =86C3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Christian Heim
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Benedikt Boehm wrote:
> Hey everybody,
>
> please give a warm welcome to Christian Heim, our latest victim, poping in to
> support the german conspiracy, and to help me with vserver stuff.
Welcome.
>
> Christian currently is in his last third of vocational education and will
> hopefully finished on 25 Aug. Besides the education as management assistant
> in IT system ("IT-Systemkaufmann" in german) he's addicted to Nordic Walking
> and biking.
>
Nordic Walking or as we here call it dementia skiing. I have also seen
dementia Nordic Walking. One elderly man had only one stick with him.
Regards,
Petteri Räty (Betelgeuse)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Package version requiring sse
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 06:13:56AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > that's pretty retarded imho ... this applies only to x86 right ? Yes, it does. The valgrind developers are currently waiting to see if it causes many complaints to see if they can prevent multiple code paths. > > To make people aware of this, I could use the sse use flag in 3.0.0 > > and die if it is not present, telling people to mask versions 3.0.0 > > and up if they have a processor without sse. I would also have to check > > the arch before requiring sse. > > seems the only sane way to handle this :( Alright, this is what I'll do then. Thanks, Maurice. -- Maurice van der Pot Gentoo Linux Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org Creator of BiteMe! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kfk4ever.com pgpgQotxs3QjY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Christian Heim
On Sunday 07 August 2005 16:46, Benedikt Boehm wrote:
> Hey everybody,
>
> please give a warm welcome to Christian Heim, our latest victim, poping in
> to support the german conspiracy, and to help me with vserver stuff.
>
> Christian currently is in his last third of vocational education and will
> hopefully finished on 25 Aug. Besides the education as management assistant
> in IT system ("IT-Systemkaufmann" in german) he's addicted to Nordic
> Walking and biking.
>
> Cheers!
>
Forgot to mention his nick: phreak
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[gentoo-dev] New Developer: Christian Heim
Hey everybody,
please give a warm welcome to Christian Heim, our latest victim, poping in to
support the german conspiracy, and to help me with vserver stuff.
Christian currently is in his last third of vocational education and will
hopefully finished on 25 Aug. Besides the education as management assistant
in IT system ("IT-Systemkaufmann" in german) he's addicted to Nordic Walking
and biking.
Cheers!
--
He who asks a question is a fool for a minute,
He who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] utf-8 fixes for metadata.xml
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:24:35 +0200 Jan Kundrát <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Hrm, we can't mess with encoding without breaking things for people | > using silly terminals (like aterm, gnome-terminal and konsole) that | > lie about their $TERM. | | My konsole reports "xterm"; what's wrong with that? konsole is not an xterm. xterm is capable of handling all kinds of termcap sequences that konsole is not. By lying about its term name, konsole is making things very hard for people who write applications which can make use of these sequences -- should the app assume that xterm means "I am a real xterm" or "I am some lame terminal pretending to be xterm"? The former screws over non-xterm users, the latter screws over xterm users. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpk4OQpDcWPE.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Package version requiring sse
Ivan Yosifov posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Sun, 07 Aug 2005 13:28:11 +0300: > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 12:11 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: >> On Sunday 07 August 2005 12:03, Ivan Yosifov wrote: Well ppc doesn't >> have SSE > > Then why is the ppc keyword there ? Well, he said, but those accustomed to only thinking x86 might have missed it, the way it was worded... that ppc uses different software code in that section, code which presumably takes care of its own ppc specific issues, so the sse-only issue only applies to x86 (and amd64, but since all of those have sse, that means only x86 has the issue since only on it is sse required but not all hardware provides it). -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Package version requiring sse
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 12:11 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Sunday 07 August 2005 12:03, Ivan Yosifov wrote: > Well ppc doesn't have SSE Then why is the ppc keyword there ? > but there are many people running Gentoo non machines that does *not* support > SSE That's why I suggested the big red warning and told you to expect bugs. ;) -- Cheers, Ivan Yosifov. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] utf-8 fixes for metadata.xml
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Bleh, I just figured that one out. The best way around it is to export > LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 before editing UTF-8 files. I've had some troubles (mainly `less` and some X apps working incorrectly) with LC_CTYPE=cs_CZ.utf8 which were fixed by LC_CTYPE=cs_CZ.UTF-8. It seems that the case doesn't matter, but the "-" is important. > Hrm, we can't mess with encoding without breaking things for people > using silly terminals (like aterm, gnome-terminal and konsole) that lie > about their $TERM. My konsole reports "xterm"; what's wrong with that? -jkt -- cd /local/pub && more beer > /dev/mouth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Package version requiring sse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ivan Yosifov wrote: > > Then the only fail-safe way to do it is to print a big red warning and > pause for 10 seconds during ebuild emerge. Given the valgrind-3.0.0 > keywords ( -* ~amd64 ~ppc ~x86 ) I guess most people on those arches > have SSE anyway. AFAIK all amd64's have SSE, I don't know about ppc, and > I doubt anyone is running Gentoo on i686. You should expect a few bugs > about it though. > I have Gentoo installed on a couple of machines without sse. They both have Pentium 2 processors. Although I won't be running valgrind on those machines (desktops for my grand parents) there could be someone else who does. I started thinking that one possible solution would be to have some kind of a subprofile system for different kind of processors. Of course it is a bit of an overkill for just one package but there could be other uses like setting the default CFLAGS and turning on the right use flags for those processors. With these profiles >=valgrind-3.0.0 could be by default in package.mask and unmasked only on the profiles that can use it. Regards, Petteri Räty (Betelgeuse) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC9eBJcxLzpIGCsLQRAsGnAJ9YwpC3C3YkATUmZWMAdgqAkYOuwwCeIm0D 5D2e0E3NZkCCR23gCBnsUew= =zNnV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Package version requiring sse
On Sunday 07 August 2005 12:03, Ivan Yosifov wrote: > Then the only fail-safe way to do it is to print a big red warning and > pause for 10 seconds during ebuild emerge. Probably is the better plan, looking for tc-arch = x86. > Given the valgrind-3.0.0 > keywords ( -* ~amd64 ~ppc ~x86 ) I guess most people on those arches > have SSE anyway. AFAIK all amd64's have SSE, I don't know about ppc, and > I doubt anyone is running Gentoo on i686. Well ppc doesn't have SSE but I think the SSE stuff is limited to x86 arch anyway, All AMD64 cpu that I know of have SSE support, but there are many people running Gentoo non machines that does *not* support SSE, like Athlon-Thunderbirds. I was one of them before replacing the main box, and I'm still using the tbird for G/FBSD. I know of people running it on 300MHz P2s (without SSE, too), so better avoid assuming that "nobody is running on a i686".. there still are i586 out there (and distcc or binary package creation from another machine can do the trick for them usually). -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò Gentoo Developer - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Gentoo/AMD64, Sound, PAM) pgpUZgFsEvVmy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Package version requiring sse
On Saturday 06 August 2005 10:15 am, Maurice van der Pot wrote: > The new valgrind version (3.0.0) requires sse support. If you have a > processor without sse, you'll need to stay at 2.4.1. that's pretty retarded imho ... this applies only to x86 right ? > To make people aware of this, I could use the sse use flag in 3.0.0 > and die if it is not present, telling people to mask versions 3.0.0 > and up if they have a processor without sse. I would also have to check > the arch before requiring sse. seems the only sane way to handle this :( -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Package version requiring sse
On Sat, 2005-08-06 at 21:37 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Saturday 06 August 2005 21:24, R Hill wrote: > > compile a small test program containing SSE specific intrinsics and die > > if it returns an error code? does valgrind's configure check for sse? > That will break while preparing packages for another machine (cross-compile > the "simple" way). > Checks that looks at execution capabilities for the system are *bad*. > Then the only fail-safe way to do it is to print a big red warning and pause for 10 seconds during ebuild emerge. Given the valgrind-3.0.0 keywords ( -* ~amd64 ~ppc ~x86 ) I guess most people on those arches have SSE anyway. AFAIK all amd64's have SSE, I don't know about ppc, and I doubt anyone is running Gentoo on i686. You should expect a few bugs about it though. -- Cheers, Ivan Yosifov. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
