Re: [gentoo-dev] Flags to punt (including: kerberos USE flag)
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 19:44 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: > mikmod - Seriously, how many folks make it a habit to listen to .MOD > music all the time? Even netlabels like Monotonik, which started *out* > as .mod, make it harder to find their old .mod stuff. Agree > ldap - Punt for the same reasons kerberos is being punted. Thats used by some public services like keyserver.pgp.com, so I think it should stay there. > eds - Down with more Evolution things! Though possibly not ideal for > Gnome user? That's a non-starter, we need to keep it in the gnome panel to have the nice integration.. There is an argument to be made that it shouldn't be a use flag in the panel maybe. > esd - no one should be using Enlightenment Sound Daemon, period. Ain't > it deprecated, anyway? No worky? DIE DIE.. Maybe we should replace it with pulseaudio ? > emboss - Seriously. Who needs the European Biology Open Software Suite > on a *desktop* oriented system? -- Olivier Crête [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Flags to punt (including: kerberos USE flag)
Mart Raudsepp wrote: > I'm believe the primary reason is for release LiveCD's. > They ship with evolution-exchange, and that requires > evolution/evolution-data-server to be built with USE=kerberos > They don't do /etc/portage business, so it's a global USE flag to get > things like GRP packages to work right. Yes, but not just for the LiveCDs. I spoke with wolf31o2 about this some time ago, asking why it was turned on in the desktop profile. He said it was for Evolution stuff, not just on the LiveCDs though. Also supposed to be useful for folks who want lots of Exchange and other stuff for their rich email client. I'm also in favor of punting it from the desktop profiles; doing so puts me that much closer to actually using it. Long as we're discussing things to punt, here's some stuff to kick out of the desktop profile: mikmod - Seriously, how many folks make it a habit to listen to .MOD music all the time? Even netlabels like Monotonik, which started *out* as .mod, make it harder to find their old .mod stuff. ldap - Punt for the same reasons kerberos is being punted. eds - Down with more Evolution things! Though possibly not ideal for Gnome user? esd - no one should be using Enlightenment Sound Daemon, period. Ain't it deprecated, anyway? No worky? emboss - Seriously. Who needs the European Biology Open Software Suite on a *desktop* oriented system? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 19:22 -0500, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 15:50 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: > >> Michael Hammer wrote: > >>> * Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081031 15:53]: > If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. > >>> ++ > >> I was also wondering why kerberos was on by default - I definitely > >> approve of nuking it. > > > > I'm believe the primary reason is for release LiveCD's. > > They ship with evolution-exchange, and that requires > > evolution/evolution-data-server to be built with USE=kerberos > > They don't do /etc/portage business, so it's a global USE flag to get > > things like GRP packages to work right. > > If that's the case, then I say whack it from global USE and change it to an > IUSE > default (or whatever is in vogue these days) for eds. From GNOME teams perspective I don't believe that is a good idea. Users wanting exchange support aren't hardly the majority of evolution users. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
Mart Raudsepp wrote: On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 15:50 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: Michael Hammer wrote: * Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081031 15:53]: If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. ++ I was also wondering why kerberos was on by default - I definitely approve of nuking it. I'm believe the primary reason is for release LiveCD's. They ship with evolution-exchange, and that requires evolution/evolution-data-server to be built with USE=kerberos They don't do /etc/portage business, so it's a global USE flag to get things like GRP packages to work right. If that's the case, then I say whack it from global USE and change it to an IUSE default (or whatever is in vogue these days) for eds. -- Andrew Gaffney http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/ Gentoo Linux DeveloperCatalyst/Genkernel + Release Engineering Lead
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 15:50 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: > Michael Hammer wrote: > > * Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081031 15:53]: > >> If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. > > > > ++ > > I was also wondering why kerberos was on by default - I definitely > approve of nuking it. I'm believe the primary reason is for release LiveCD's. They ship with evolution-exchange, and that requires evolution/evolution-data-server to be built with USE=kerberos They don't do /etc/portage business, so it's a global USE flag to get things like GRP packages to work right. Regards, -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
Michael Hammer wrote: > * Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081031 15:53]: >> If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. > > ++ I was also wondering why kerberos was on by default - I definitely approve of nuking it. -Joe
[gentoo-dev] virtual/tetex removed
As announced beginning of September, the tetex virtual was finally removed. See bug 222501 for details. Ulrich
[gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs
Hi, I want to devote more time to the kernel project and other things, so I'm looking for people or herds to take ebuild maintainership of the following packages: dev-dotnet/gsf-sharp dev-dotnet/evolution-sharp dev-util/rej net-wireless/zd1211-firmware sys-block/viaideinfo sys-fs/udftools x11-misc/touchcal any volunteers? :) Otherwise I'll push them towards maintainer-needed in a couple of weeks time. Thanks, Daniel
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
* Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081031 15:53]: > If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. ++ greets, mueli p.S.: thx for the suggestion cardoe! -- Michael Hammer|<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Graz, AT Gentoo Developer (Kerberos) | http://www.michael-hammer.at pgpw6S6QpvuEF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
On Friday 31 of October 2008 19:41:26 Doug Goldstein wrote: > Dawid Węgliński wrote: > > On Friday 31 of October 2008 19:17:45 Doug Goldstein wrote: > >> Marius Mauch wrote: > >>> On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400 > >>> > >>> Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by > default? > >>> > >>> AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for > >>> joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag). > >> > >> So let's use EAPI=1 in just the samba ebuild and do +kerberos in there. > > > > samba needs USE="ads ldap" to join NT domain. > > heh. You beat me to the punch. I was just about to say that samba > doesn't have a kerberos USE flag. > > So any objections to me nuking this USE flag pronto? I'd be +1 to drop kerberos useflag, and probably make use of eapi1 in nfs-utils and such, where kerberos would be more apropriate.
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
Dawid Węgliński wrote: > On Friday 31 of October 2008 19:17:45 Doug Goldstein wrote: > >> Marius Mauch wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400 >>> >>> Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by default? >>> AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for >>> joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag). >>> >> So let's use EAPI=1 in just the samba ebuild and do +kerberos in there. >> > > samba needs USE="ads ldap" to join NT domain. > > heh. You beat me to the punch. I was just about to say that samba doesn't have a kerberos USE flag. So any objections to me nuking this USE flag pronto?
[gentoo-dev] GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization
In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to ask maintainers check if their current stable packages build with 4.3, and if not please stabilize a version that does in the near future if at all possible. Stabilizing this version is going to be a huge job due to the number of packages that don't compile due to implicit C++ standard library header dependencies that got cleaned up in 4.3.[i], so anything you could do ahead of time to save our sanity would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, gcc-porting. [i] http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.3/porting_to.html -- gcc-porting, by design, by neglect treecleaner, for a fact or just for effect wxwidgets @ gentoo EFFD 380E 047A 4B51 D2BD C64F 8AA8 8346 F9A4 0662 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
On Friday 31 of October 2008 19:17:45 Doug Goldstein wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400 > > > > Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by > >> default? > > > > AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for > > joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag). > > So let's use EAPI=1 in just the samba ebuild and do +kerberos in there. samba needs USE="ads ldap" to join NT domain.
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400 > Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by >> default? > > AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for > joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag). Sounds like a candidate for USE defaults, EAPI-1. Seems like a silly design choice to add it globally, IMHO.
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
Marius Mauch wrote: > On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400 > Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by >> default? >> > > AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for > joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag). > So let's use EAPI=1 in just the samba ebuild and do +kerberos in there.
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by > default? AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag). > If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. Agreed (independent of the current breakage). Marius
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86 commit in app-mobilephone/smstools: ChangeLog smstools-2.2.20.ebuild
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 17:18 +0100, Torsten Veller wrote: > Remember pkg_preinst is called after src_install. Right, I'll change that back. It got in my way during unpack cycles. > BTW: ROOT should be respected in pkg_postinst too. I'll add that. Regards, Tony V. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86 commit in app-mobilephone/smstools: ChangeLog smstools-2.2.20.ebuild
* "Tony Vroon (chainsaw)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2 > --- smstools-2.2.20.ebuild14 Jan 2008 16:13:37 - 1.1 > +++ smstools-2.2.20.ebuild31 Oct 2008 15:49:29 - 1.2 > > -pkg_setup() { > - enewgroup sms > - enewuser smsd -1 -1 /var/spool/sms sms > -} > - > src_unpack() { > unpack ${A} > cd "${S}" > @@ -35,7 +30,12 @@ > > src_compile() { > cd src > - emake || die "emake failed" > + emake CC="$(tc-getCC)" || die "emake failed" > +} > + > +pkg_preinst() { > + enewgroup sms > + enewuser smsd -1 -1 /var/spool/sms sms > } > > src_install() { chown -R smsd:sms "${D}"/var/spool/sms chmod g+s "${D}"/var/spool/sms/incoming newinitd "${FILESDIR}"/smsd.initd smsd insopts -o smsd -g sms -m0644 > @@ -60,5 +60,6 @@ > } > > pkg_postinst() { > + touch /var/log/smsd.log > chown -f smsd:sms /var/log/smsd.log > } Remember pkg_preinst is called after src_install. So the user and group probably don't exist during src_install. BTW: ROOT should be respected in pkg_postinst too.
[gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by default? Especially after a long time of kerberos not having a maintainer (thanks mueli for joining the Gentoo club and maintaining it now). Our current maintainer is working his butt off to get it up to speed but it's not there yet. I don't see what features or benefits it adds to the average user. If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. -- Doug Goldstein