[gentoo-dev] Re: color management in gentoo (kde expecially) proposal for help

2012-02-24 Thread Francesco R.(vivo)
re-adding the list, gmail still fool me some times.
2012/2/23 Kai-Uwe Behrmann k...@gmx.de:
 Hello,

 glad to read from you.

 Am 23.02.12, 15:47 +0100 schrieb Francesco Riosa:

 Hi,
  my name is Francesco Riosa, I would be interested in a more
 complete support of the oyranos color managment programs in ::gentoo.
 Oyranos is intended to be multy platform and in some sense multy os,
 but in the current incarnation has good support for kde.


 Joseph works on a GUI front end for Qt to broaden the support. And you are
 right, KDE's KolorManager is in the best shape.

Synnefo is already in a good shape too right? I would also like to see
a complete replacement for icc-examin, expecially it's ability to see
multiply profiles in the same 3d space, you know, to be able to say
those 300€ for a better monitor were a good price ;-)

 In case there is interest I can apply to return as a developer in
 gentoo, will respond to emails this week end (25/26 Feb)


 I read this as a offer to help packaging in gentoo. Typical I work with
 packagers and like to easen their work. Personally I maintain a openSUSE
 colour managed software stack as packager myself and be open for suggestions
 or ideas from Fedora and gladly from gentoo as well.

indeed it's an offer for direct or proxyed help gentoo, a pair of
ideas that would help gentoo later


 Often it was mentioned to use autotools or cmake. The next soon to be
 released rersion of libXcm, one small library, will be autotooled. The
 conversion is a hard and time consuming part for me, but we hope to get all
 packages converted. Initially I had some help, which was a good kick off.

unlike the rest of the world I prefer cmake over autotools, but if you
need help on autotools I suggest to ask this list, there is a lot of
expertise here and packagers are going to fix bug in build system
anyway, so better soon than later.
Gentoo has good support for quite every build system out there, but
yes the two you mentioned are preferred.

While gentoo is more flexible than binary distro, there is one thing
that help them a lot, do releases (possibly often), they need a fixed
point to start with, having only a git repository where to pull mean
to be a second class cityzen.

 In case you want to maintain gentoo specific files inside the upstream
 packages and keep them up to date, that is possible. I do so with a rpm and
 deb make target. Not sure if that makes sense for gentoo.

I'm quite sure it's not needed, to the opposite, generally those files
go out of sync easily and are better mantained by gentoo devs.


 The build scripts and a README are linked here:
 http://www.oyranos.org/wiki/index.php?title=Oyranos/git
 icc_examin-build-local.sh can be adapted.
 As one nice step it would be great, if you can name one or more command
 lines to get gentoo ready for building Oyranos and the other parts of the
 software stack. So people could test Oyranos from git easily inside gentoo.

I've the complete oyranos software stack building well in gentoo at
the moment (using git) :-)

 I'm _not_ offering support for digikam, for which I develop, because I
 would like to mantain a two step verification process
 (developer/packager)

 Regards,
 Francesco

 kind regards
 Kai-Uwe
 --
 www.oyranos.org
 oy#open...@freenode.org



[gentoo-dev] LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 by default

2012-02-15 Thread Francesco R.(vivo)
as subject says could gentoo change the policy and set an UTF-8 environment by 
default?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml how to do it very well but having it 
already set could have the following two advantages:

1) well utf-8 is everywhere, even the linux weekly newsletter has it in 2012
2) the user need to change, not to create a /etc/env.d/XX-lc, creating a 
standard place where every gentoo install has this settings.

contra?

P.S. would be nice to have a wd_WD.UTF-8 with WD standing for world, just a 
country is so 1900



Re: [gentoo-dev] Free Gentoo

2012-01-21 Thread Francesco R.(vivo)
On Saturday 21 January 2012 21:56:22 Markos Chandras wrote:
 On 01/21/2012 06:01 PM, . wrote:
  Hello there!
  
  Is there a chance that Gentoo may become a free distro?
  
  I'm so unhappy with the fact that there are some non-free packages
  in the main tree. The main goal of the GNU project was to replace
  the proprietary Unix system. You are actually ruining this goal.
  
  I'm also dissatisfied with the name of the distro. Linux is the
  kernel not the whole system.
  
  
  Cheers.
 
 Please guys stop replying to this email. It is clearly a spam or a
 flamebait. Try to avoid (unnecessary) flames :)

well, while the original mail was disturbing most of the reply have been fun 
to read (some even instructive), so may be this time it was worth an exception 
and feeding the troll :-)