Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone interested in maintaining the Gentoo Handbooks?

2009-10-03 Thread Nandeep Mali
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:33 PM, AllenJB  wrote:
> Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
[...]
>>> I personally would happily donate my time to working on the docs, if
>>> only it didn't involve a markup language nobody else uses.
>>
>> You're in luck, the Beacon project has perfected it's Django branch
>> which is now nearly ready for deployment. I think this is a far better
>> option than converting all of the existing XML docs into Wiki and
>> alienating an entire team.
>>
> What is the Beacon project? URL? A tried a quick bit of googling but
> came up with nothing useful.

Hi,

I have just started setting up the above mentioned project's homepage.

Its available at: http://beaconeditor.org/

Mind you there is nothing much there, expect more in the coming week.
We have been hard at work to get this in shape for _quite_ sometime
(as many folks at Gentoo might have known). The development on this
project has been incremental, a few times a year. Though its picking
up momentum now.

For now you can see the Docbook Plugin (At the demo link) more or less
fully functional. GuideXML will be done in couple of days as well. The
aim to setup a project homepage is to give a much needed user feedback
and branded exposure to the project. There is a Trac setup there that
needs some sprucing up. Mailing lists inbound as well.

Hopefully with the rising needs of Gentoo and to make it possible to
stay with the existing setup (and not have to edit the XML) this
project can gain the traction.

FWIW, this project is at your disposal.

Kind Regards
Nandeep



Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Nandeep Mali
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Dale  wrote:
[...]
> I'm a member at LQ tho I haven't been there in a long while.  I just
> don't see why there has to be two forums when the one forum we have is
> more than enough.  If someone can't find the Gentoo forums, I'm not sure
> they can find the chair and keyboard either.  lol

As a user I'd say that's ignoring us (the users) blatantly. What's the
harm in having it at multiple places? LQ is one of the sites that
comes up first in Google Search. I have found solution for many of my
queries related to other distros there. Agreed that finding Gentoo
Forums is easy, but that doesn't mean that you can expect every user
to go there. A reply like mine would usually be countered with: Gentoo
users are assumed to be intelligent enough to find this forum. lol

> I don't see how doing double the work will benefit anyone.  Its a lot
> easier to have one forum than it is to have two forums.  I just think
> the Gentoo folks would be better to concentrate on what we have than to
> be spreading more work around for the same people.  Its not like they
> don't have enough work already.

This is also wrong. As I said before having a presence in multiple
areas is just plain helpful and not redundant. Search engines are the
first tool that a user would usually use and getting more results is
nothing but helpful. And as Jesús put it he is volunteering to do it,
so I don't see what is the problem here? If the sub-forum does come up
I am sure other people would volunteer as well. Nobody is forcing
anyone to do anything here.

I wish some people would start seeing it from user's perspective as
well. And volunteers who want to help like this should be encouraged.
Frankly speaking replies like this have discouraged many users I have
personally known. And it takes great courage to post to Gentoo ML in
fear of such replies. Again and again its virtually stated that: "user
is dumb unless they do it the way I want them to do it or the way I
think it is right". I take back my words if Gentoo is supposed to be a
developer only distro.

Anyway, again from a user's perspective, Gentoo also has its share of
great minds, awesome documentation and some friendly and nice folks.
:)

Regards
Nandeep