Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 April 2008

2008-04-11 Thread Joe Peterson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:37:31 -0700
 Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's why I setup them up with the ability to rsync it, and they
 never got back to me on that, nor used it ever.
 
 Hrm, curious. They seem interested and alive currently. Perhaps it's
 worth another shot...

I also queried them on the forum earlier this year, since none of my
commits were listed.  Here's the link (I do think this is worth looking
into - note that the response what that they did not do CVS...):

http://www.ohloh.net/forums/10/topics/1278

-Joe
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[gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 April 2008

2008-04-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Hi all,

Here is the summary from today's council meeting. The complete log will 
show up at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ shortly.

Thanks,
Donnie
Quick summary
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GLEP 46 (Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml): Approved

Slacker arches: Vapier's proposal is going out tonight.

Minimal activity for ebuild devs: We're trusting the judgment of the 
undertakers. Also looking into Ohloh for commit stats.

Initial comments on PMS: Unapproved EAPIs cannot go into the approved 
document.


Roll call
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(here, proxy [by whom] or slacker?)

amnehere
betelgeuse  here
dberkholz   here
flameeyes   proxy [tsunam]
lu_zero slacker
vapier  here
jokey   here


Updates to last month's topics
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http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20080313-summary.txt


Document of being an active developer
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Last month:
No updates
Updates:
No updates


Slacker arches
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3 months ago:
vapier will work on rich0's suggestion and repost it for 
discussion on -dev ML
Last month:
vapier said he was going to work on it this weekend.
Updates:
vapier said he's finishing it up and will have it posted 
tonight.


GLEP 46: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0046.html

2 months ago:
Caveat on approval about allowed protocols
Updates:
Restriction to http/https has been dropped as pointed out by 
council members (amne and Flameeyes if I'm right).  The point 
for restricting the URLs to the mentioned protocols was that 
they shouldn't link to automatically updated ressources.  This 
has been replaced by an explicit specification and a 
recommendation that http/http should be favoured over 
ftp/svn/gopher/etc to make the implementation for automated 
update discovery tools easier (they should of course ignore 
URLs 
they can't handle).

Approved.


New topics
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Minimal activity for ebuild devs

Current is 1 commit every 60 days. Should it be higher?

Agreement was hard to find. Some people thought it should be 1 
commit / week, others said that people have busy lives and 
questioned the benefits.

A number of people did agree that we should trust the judgment of 
the undertakers.

dberkholz suggested that low commit rates may not maintain the 
quality of the committer, and we should more carefully review the 
commits of these people.

Ways to track commit stats of various sorts came up, such as cia.vc 
and ohloh. cia seems to have too much downtime to rely on. ciaranm 
talked with ohloh people already. ohloh would require some 
modifications to ohcount to recognize ebuilds and eclasses, and a 
full copy of the cvs repository to start, but it seems worth 
exploring. Betelgeuse said he would tar up a copy of the gentoo-x86 
repo.


Initial comments on PMS
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http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/pms.git

Are there any major changes needed, or just tuning details?

The council voted that kdebuild-1 and other unapproved EAPIs could 
not be in an approved PMS document. The spec isn't a place for 
proposals or things that will never be submitted for approval by the 
council. It's a specification, a reference of what is allowed in the 
main tree.


Open floor
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blackace asked about complaints against philantrop, eroyf, and spb.
vapier referred that to devrel. Betelgeuse said that there's been no
rejection or action on those complaints yet, and internal discussion 
is ongoing. Philantrop complained that he hadn't heard anything 
about complaints, and Betelgeuse said that since some members 
already left, he didn't want to take matters into his own hands in 
sharing private information.


Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 April 2008

2008-04-10 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 01:28:43AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:21:20 -0700
 Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Having OhLoh would be nice, but over the course of the last year,
  they've found that their system is not really capable of handling the
  scope of the gentoo-x86 CVS tree.
 As I understand it, they need a full history to start off. But once
 they have that, it's just a case of pulling every commit, which they
 should be able to handle. Jason Allen said today that a tarball of the
 repo should probably be enough to get it working.
That's why I setup them up with the ability to rsync it, and they never
got back to me on that, nor used it ever.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 April 2008

2008-04-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:37:31 -0700
Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's why I setup them up with the ability to rsync it, and they
 never got back to me on that, nor used it ever.

Hrm, curious. They seem interested and alive currently. Perhaps it's
worth another shot...

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 April 2008

2008-04-10 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 01:41:09AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:37:31 -0700
 Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That's why I setup them up with the ability to rsync it, and they
  never got back to me on that, nor used it ever.
 Hrm, curious. They seem interested and alive currently. Perhaps it's
 worth another shot...
Get Robin Lackey @ OhLoh to mail me again then. I'm busy the next week
as I'm at the MySQL conference in Santa Clara, but it's just a matter of
giving him the access details again.

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Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux Developer  Infra Guy
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