Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Tiziano Müller wrote:
 Am Montag, den 04.05.2009, 00:25 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford: 
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 On 2009.05.03 22:47, Tiziano Müller wrote:
 This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd  
 4th
 Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council 
 @
 irc.freenode.net) !


 [snip]

 Tiziano,

 The 7th is the first Thursday this month.  Has there been a change to 
 the meeting dates ?
 
 We usually have the meeting every two weeks, so the next meeting would
 be the next Thursday. Unless someone has objections I'd propose to hold
 the meeting then.
 I guess I have to change the template a little :)
 

Isn't it second and fourth Thursday?

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-04 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 02:06:47PM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote:
 Isn't it second and fourth Thursday?
 
 Regards,
 Petteri
 

That's an oversimplification. That varies because of when we have some
holidays and skip meetings, throughing the schedule off. It's easiest to
remember it as every other thursday.


Thomas


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 08:34 Mon 04 May , Thomas Anderson wrote:
 On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 02:06:47PM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote:
  Isn't it second and fourth Thursday?
  
  Regards,
  Petteri
  
 
 That's an oversimplification. That varies because of when we have some
 holidays and skip meetings, throughing the schedule off. It's easiest to
 remember it as every other thursday.

As a rule, it is the 2nd and 4th Thursday of each month. This is 
announced in every meeting email.

Of course there are occasional exceptions, but they are exceptions and 
not the rule. I don't see why this would be one because I haven't heard 
anything about next week being bad.

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Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-04 Thread Roy Bamford
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On 2009.05.04 10:20, Tiziano Müller wrote:
[snip]
 
 We usually have the meeting every two weeks, so the next meeting 
 would
 be the next Thursday. Unless someone has objections I'd propose to
 hold
 the meeting then.
 I guess I have to change the template a little :)
 
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 Gentoo Linux Developer, Council Member
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   Samba, PostgreSQL, CPP, Python, sysadmin, GLEP Editor
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Tiziano,

Every two weeks works 12 weeks out of 13 because months run in a 4,4,5 
week cycle. That is, once every three months, there is three weeks 
between meetings.
Is the council changing from meeting on the second and fourth Thursdays 
of the month to meetings every two weeks?
The two are not quite the same. 

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[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-03 Thread Tiziano Müller
This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd  4th
Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @
irc.freenode.net) !

If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote
on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev
list to see.

For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/

Following is the preliminary meeting agenda. It consists of two EAPI-3
related topics as well as two almost rusty topics where we should
finally make a decision to be able to move on.


EAPI 3: Short discussion of the progress


zmedico will provide an update on the progress of the implementation.
Short discussion of problems and implementation decisions if needed.


EAPI 3: PMS approval


Goal: Approve EAPI-3 extension of the PMS. Any open questions should be
on the mailing list before the meeting.


GLEP 54: Dealing with live SCM packages
---

Goal: Since no consensus is reached or progress has been made voting
seems appropriate.


Handling EAPI versioning in a forwards-compatible way
-

Goal: Since no consensus is reached vote on the implementation for the
problem solved in GLEP 55.


Handling static libraries more flexibly
---

Goal: Decision-making by consensus. 
Should we move forward with USE=static-libs to control 
building of static libraries? Should/Must this be an EAPI feature?


Define EAPI development/deployment cycles
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Goal: Start discussion about EAPI development/deployment. For example:
Collect problems of eapi introductions in the past, like reverting
ebuilds to former eapis to get them stable, not waiting for the pm
support a certain eapi before requesting stable keywords for ebuilds
using the new eapi,  Collect problems of EAPI development like
feature-freeze, late feature removals (due to implementation problems).
Eventually develop a lightweight EAPI development model.


Cheers,
Tiziano

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-03 Thread Roy Bamford
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On 2009.05.03 22:47, Tiziano Müller wrote:
 This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd  
 4th
 Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council 
 @
 irc.freenode.net) !
 

[snip]

Tiziano,

The 7th is the first Thursday this month.  Has there been a change to 
the meeting dates ?

- -- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(NeddySeagoon) a member of
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