Re: [gentoo-dev] OT: user-developer/privileges in IRC
Dirkjan Ochtman schrieb: > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:55 PM, yac wrote: >> Now I wonder if the +m on IRC was set proactively or reactively. If the >> former it could be worth a try to -m. > Yeah, I kind of feel it should be -m, as well. If need be, we can be > more proactive about kickbanning people (ops enough, after all). We had -m for a short period this year already. AFAIR users then came into the channel and asked support or ebuild development questions, so it was reverted to +m. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Re: [gentoo-dev] OT: user-developer/privileges in IRC
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:55 PM, yac wrote: > Now I wonder if the +m on IRC was set proactively or reactively. If the > former it could be worth a try to -m. Yeah, I kind of feel it should be -m, as well. If need be, we can be more proactive about kickbanning people (ops enough, after all). Cheers, Dirkjan
Re: [gentoo-dev] OT: user-developer/privileges in IRC
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:02:29 +0400 Sergey Popov wrote: > 22.10.2013 07:19, Peter Stuge пишет: > > I should have included bugzilla among mailing lists+IRC, users can > > indeed also have elevated privileges on IRC, but never equal to > > developers. It is radical exclusion and I'm reminded of it every > > time the #gentoo-dev channel mode catches my eye, painfully so if > > there's a discussion I could perhaps contribute to. Most of the time > > it is easy enough to say something privately to a relevant > > developer, but that's still very different from actual > > participation. > > > > Yes, and i think that it was done for a reason. Now I wonder if the +m on IRC was set proactively or reactively. If the former it could be worth a try to -m. > But nobody stops you > from requesting temporarily voice on #gentoo-dev and when you > contributions will be marked as significant - gentoo/contributor > cloak, that will give you permanent voice in #gentoo-dev. > > You should understand that #gentoo-dev is channel for developer's > communication primarily and it is not so restricted, as you think. > > For example, #gentoo-infra is totally restricted to developers only, > other interested parties should be added to channel ACLs explicitly or > should get invite there. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] OT: user-developer/privileges in IRC
22.10.2013 07:19, Peter Stuge пишет: > I should have included bugzilla among mailing lists+IRC, users can > indeed also have elevated privileges on IRC, but never equal to > developers. It is radical exclusion and I'm reminded of it every > time the #gentoo-dev channel mode catches my eye, painfully so if > there's a discussion I could perhaps contribute to. Most of the time > it is easy enough to say something privately to a relevant developer, > but that's still very different from actual participation. > Yes, and i think that it was done for a reason. But nobody stops you from requesting temporarily voice on #gentoo-dev and when you contributions will be marked as significant - gentoo/contributor cloak, that will give you permanent voice in #gentoo-dev. You should understand that #gentoo-dev is channel for developer's communication primarily and it is not so restricted, as you think. For example, #gentoo-infra is totally restricted to developers only, other interested parties should be added to channel ACLs explicitly or should get invite there. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
