Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
El jue, 03-01-2013 a las 09:33 -0500, Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek) escribió: > > On Jan 3, 2013 6:54 AM, "Pacho Ramos" wrote: > > > > El jue, 03-01-2013 a las 12:41 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: > > [...] > > > Well, I was referring to this exact case as voip team already > pointed > > > they weren't looking to ekiga stuff and, then, didn't had much > sense to > > > me to see bugs assigned to them instead of real maintainer (will > commit > > > access) > > > > will -> with > > Pacho, I have been taking care of ekiga, ptlib and opal. Feel free to > make me the assignee for bugs in those packages. > > I should be on metadata for those... > > Thanks, will then assign to you and CC herd, if voip people want to completely drop, please talk! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
On Jan 3, 2013 6:54 AM, "Pacho Ramos" wrote: > > El jue, 03-01-2013 a las 12:41 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: > [...] > > Well, I was referring to this exact case as voip team already pointed > > they weren't looking to ekiga stuff and, then, didn't had much sense to > > me to see bugs assigned to them instead of real maintainer (will commit > > access) > > will -> with Pacho, I have been taking care of ekiga, ptlib and opal. Feel free to make me the assignee for bugs in those packages. I should be on metadata for those...
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
El jue, 03-01-2013 a las 12:41 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: [...] > Well, I was referring to this exact case as voip team already pointed > they weren't looking to ekiga stuff and, then, didn't had much sense to > me to see bugs assigned to them instead of real maintainer (will commit > access) will -> with signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
El jue, 03-01-2013 a las 00:43 +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn escribió: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Pacho Ramos schrieb: > > Looks like finally you added yourself to metadata but with instructions > > to bug-wranglers to CC you and assign to herd. I would like to confirm > > this way of assigning things > > The difference is almost inconsequential in practice. Bugmail will be sent > to both assignee and CC:. Only for maintainers without bugzilla privileges > they need to ping their proxy to make certain updates to the bug. > x11 team has similar instructions in the metadata for their proxy > maintained package. > > > Best regards, > Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn Well, I was referring to this exact case as voip team already pointed they weren't looking to ekiga stuff and, then, didn't had much sense to me to see bugs assigned to them instead of real maintainer (will commit access) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pacho Ramos schrieb: > Looks like finally you added yourself to metadata but with instructions > to bug-wranglers to CC you and assign to herd. I would like to confirm > this way of assigning things The difference is almost inconsequential in practice. Bugmail will be sent to both assignee and CC:. Only for maintainers without bugzilla privileges they need to ping their proxy to make certain updates to the bug. x11 team has similar instructions in the metadata for their proxy maintained package. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlDkxhkACgkQ+gvH2voEPRAQZgCbBnoIB6/peK8UWwuz/dxJitLk 4NQAnirKXvPLW+mfnAWMuAiGGZGXNbl6 =Jkiy -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
El jue, 11-10-2012 a las 08:13 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > El mié, 10-10-2012 a las 20:11 -0400, Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek) escribió: > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn > > wrote: > > > Pacho Ramos schrieb: > > >> I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga, > > >> opal, yate... are completely unattended by voip team for > > >> years. If nobody from that team is willing to maintain > > >> them, please move them to maintainer-needed to, at least, > > >> reflect reality. > > > > > >> Any news here? I can move that packages to maintainer-needed if you > > >> send me the list of packages you don't want to maintain. Also, > > >> maybe telepathy stuff could be moved to its own herd (that is > > >> basically gnome team + tester... or maybe tester could join gnome > > >> team ;)) > > > > > > There is now one proxy maintainer for a couple of packages, he is > > > currently waiting for voip overlay access in bug 437538. He will take > > > care of linphone and related packages (see bug 399735 and its > > > dependencies). > > > > > > Regarding the packages that can be moved to maintainer-needed: I think > > > a good heuristic is if the package has several open bugs with no > > > maintainer reaction, and hasn't been touched by anyone from voip herd > > > in over a year. This would include the ekiga, opal and yate packages > > > mentioned above. > > > > > I'd gladly take maintainership of opal and ekiga, if nobody wants them. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Would be nice as they need a lot of bumps and pending work > Looks like finally you added yourself to metadata but with instructions to bug-wranglers to CC you and assign to herd. I would like to confirm this way of assigning things with both as voip herd people didn't touch ekiga related packages and, also, would be better to clarify things before me going to their bugs and assigning them properly to comply current metadatas (as I have seen some ekiga bugs still only assigned to voip herd without you CCed) Thanks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
El mié, 10-10-2012 a las 20:11 -0400, Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek) escribió: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn > wrote: > > Pacho Ramos schrieb: > >> I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga, > >> opal, yate... are completely unattended by voip team for > >> years. If nobody from that team is willing to maintain > >> them, please move them to maintainer-needed to, at least, > >> reflect reality. > > > >> Any news here? I can move that packages to maintainer-needed if you > >> send me the list of packages you don't want to maintain. Also, > >> maybe telepathy stuff could be moved to its own herd (that is > >> basically gnome team + tester... or maybe tester could join gnome > >> team ;)) > > > > There is now one proxy maintainer for a couple of packages, he is > > currently waiting for voip overlay access in bug 437538. He will take > > care of linphone and related packages (see bug 399735 and its > > dependencies). > > > > Regarding the packages that can be moved to maintainer-needed: I think > > a good heuristic is if the package has several open bugs with no > > maintainer reaction, and hasn't been touched by anyone from voip herd > > in over a year. This would include the ekiga, opal and yate packages > > mentioned above. > > > I'd gladly take maintainership of opal and ekiga, if nobody wants them. > > Cheers, > Would be nice as they need a lot of bumps and pending work signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Pacho Ramos schrieb: >> I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga, >> opal, yate... are completely unattended by voip team for >> years. If nobody from that team is willing to maintain >> them, please move them to maintainer-needed to, at least, >> reflect reality. > >> Any news here? I can move that packages to maintainer-needed if you >> send me the list of packages you don't want to maintain. Also, >> maybe telepathy stuff could be moved to its own herd (that is >> basically gnome team + tester... or maybe tester could join gnome >> team ;)) > > There is now one proxy maintainer for a couple of packages, he is > currently waiting for voip overlay access in bug 437538. He will take > care of linphone and related packages (see bug 399735 and its > dependencies). > > Regarding the packages that can be moved to maintainer-needed: I think > a good heuristic is if the package has several open bugs with no > maintainer reaction, and hasn't been touched by anyone from voip herd > in over a year. This would include the ekiga, opal and yate packages > mentioned above. > I'd gladly take maintainership of opal and ekiga, if nobody wants them. Cheers, -- Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek) Gentoo Developer
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga, > opal, yate... are completely unattended by voip team for > years. If nobody from that team is willing to maintain > them, please move them to maintainer-needed to, at least, > reflect reality. > Any news here? I can move that packages to maintainer-needed if you > send me the list of packages you don't want to maintain. Also, > maybe telepathy stuff could be moved to its own herd (that is > basically gnome team + tester... or maybe tester could join gnome > team ;)) There is now one proxy maintainer for a couple of packages, he is currently waiting for voip overlay access in bug 437538. He will take care of linphone and related packages (see bug 399735 and its dependencies). Regarding the packages that can be moved to maintainer-needed: I think a good heuristic is if the package has several open bugs with no maintainer reaction, and hasn't been touched by anyone from voip herd in over a year. This would include the ekiga, opal and yate packages mentioned above. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
El dom, 07-10-2012 a las 08:55 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > El dom, 07-10-2012 a las 12:08 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió: > > On 7 October 2012 04:37, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn > > wrote: > > > Pacho Ramos schrieb: > > >> Hello > > >> > > >> I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga, opal, > > >> yate... are completely unattended by voip team for years. If nobody > > >> from that team is willing to maintain them, please move them to > > >> maintainer-needed to, at least, reflect reality. > > > > > > The members of the voip team are usually interested in a few specific > > > packages only. > > > > > > Many of the packages which have become unmaintained had a maintainer > > > once, but these were retired from Gentoo at some point. The package > > > was then left with the herd. Nobody in the herd was interested to > > > maintain them but nobody was sufficiently motivated to speak out > > > against this either. > > > > Does voip herd belong to any project, is there a leader? Can you guys > > get together and decide who is doing what? And then remove inactive > > devs from the herd, and put unmaintained packages up for grabs / > > assign to maintainer-needed? > > > > That would make things more transparent and maybe get some movement in > > open bugs. > > Yes, that would be the right thing to do as now there are a lot of > packages that are like in a "limbo" Any news here? I can move that packages to maintainer-needed if you send me the list of packages you don't want to maintain. Also, maybe telepathy stuff could be moved to its own herd (that is basically gnome team + tester... or maybe tester could join gnome team ;)) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
El dom, 07-10-2012 a las 12:08 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió: > On 7 October 2012 04:37, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn > wrote: > > Pacho Ramos schrieb: > >> Hello > >> > >> I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga, opal, > >> yate... are completely unattended by voip team for years. If nobody > >> from that team is willing to maintain them, please move them to > >> maintainer-needed to, at least, reflect reality. > > > > The members of the voip team are usually interested in a few specific > > packages only. > > > > Many of the packages which have become unmaintained had a maintainer > > once, but these were retired from Gentoo at some point. The package > > was then left with the herd. Nobody in the herd was interested to > > maintain them but nobody was sufficiently motivated to speak out > > against this either. > > Does voip herd belong to any project, is there a leader? Can you guys > get together and decide who is doing what? And then remove inactive > devs from the herd, and put unmaintained packages up for grabs / > assign to maintainer-needed? > > That would make things more transparent and maybe get some movement in > open bugs. Yes, that would be the right thing to do as now there are a lot of packages that are like in a "limbo" signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
On 7 October 2012 04:37, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Pacho Ramos schrieb: >> Hello >> >> I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga, opal, >> yate... are completely unattended by voip team for years. If nobody >> from that team is willing to maintain them, please move them to >> maintainer-needed to, at least, reflect reality. > > The members of the voip team are usually interested in a few specific > packages only. > > Many of the packages which have become unmaintained had a maintainer > once, but these were retired from Gentoo at some point. The package > was then left with the herd. Nobody in the herd was interested to > maintain them but nobody was sufficiently motivated to speak out > against this either. Does voip herd belong to any project, is there a leader? Can you guys get together and decide who is doing what? And then remove inactive devs from the herd, and put unmaintained packages up for grabs / assign to maintainer-needed? That would make things more transparent and maybe get some movement in open bugs. -- Cheers, Ben | yngwin Gentoo developer Gentoo Qt project lead, Gentoo Wiki admin
[gentoo-dev] Re: About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > Hello > > I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga, opal, > yate... are completely unattended by voip team for years. If nobody > from that team is willing to maintain them, please move them to > maintainer-needed to, at least, reflect reality. The members of the voip team are usually interested in a few specific packages only. Many of the packages which have become unmaintained had a maintainer once, but these were retired from Gentoo at some point. The package was then left with the herd. Nobody in the herd was interested to maintain them but nobody was sufficiently motivated to speak out against this either. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
