Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Linux preinstalled

2005-10-17 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 10/14/05, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Stefan Schweizer posted
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
 below,  on Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:33:57 +0200:
  [..]
  Anyone knows of something like a sysprep script for linux that will
  ask the costumer for user  and passwort setup when he first switches
  on the PC?
  [...]
 This is what the catalyst application does -- allow one to make their own
 customized LiveCD installers*, just like Gentoo does with each periodic
 snapshot release. The ebuild is in portage, and there's a catalyst
 specific mailing list, should you have any questions.
[..]

Well, catalyst is not really good for that because I need something
that I can constantly upgrade without recompiling everything .. that
is a live system for me at the moment.
And LiveCD installers is nice, but what I need is a Sysprep-Installer
like when someone turns on his windows PC the first time, where you
can setuo hostname/user/password and maybe network.
Is anything like that available for Linux?

Regards,
Stefan

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Linux preinstalled

2005-10-17 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 12:53 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
 Well, catalyst is not really good for that because I need something
 that I can constantly upgrade without recompiling everything .. that
 is a live system for me at the moment.

Because there isn't any way to cache packages in catalyst to keep from
having to recompile everything...

 And LiveCD installers is nice, but what I need is a Sysprep-Installer
 like when someone turns on his windows PC the first time, where you
 can setuo hostname/user/password and maybe network.

Simple enough.  This could be done with a small shell script.

 Is anything like that available for Linux?

Sure.  Write one.  It isn't like you're asking for anything complex.  It
needs to ask the user what?  User name, password, and time zone?

Heck, you could take a note from catalyst/release media and have the
system auto-login as root using bashlogin via inittab at first boot.
Then have the system run a shell script as root.  The shell script could
adjust the files (inittab and root's .bashrc) back to their original
state, along with asking the user for their adminstrator password, a
username for their normal user, that user's password, and the time zone.

Most of what sysprep does is completely irrelevant for a Linux
installation, as it clears out the hardware configurations in the
registry and prepares the system for detecting the hardware on boot.  It
also allows for the setting of passwords and such.  Even with sysprep,
you end up writing your own scripts for any customized software.

(Used to be a Windows admin... scary, huh?)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Linux preinstalled

2005-10-17 Thread Peter Gordon
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 12:53 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
 And LiveCD installers is nice, but what I need is a Sysprep-Installer
 like when someone turns on his windows PC the first time, where you
 can setuo hostname/user/password and maybe network.
 Is anything like that available for Linux?

Fedora has something called firstboot[1]. Perhaps, with some alterations
and tweaking, that it could help you?

[1] http://tinyurl.com/b898t
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Linux preinstalled

2005-10-14 Thread Duncan
Stefan Schweizer posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below,  on Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:33:57 +0200:

 I want to preinstall Gentoo Linux on some devices for customers. Do
 you have any tips for preinstallation, any scripts? What is the
 correct prcedure of doing so?
 Anyone knows of something like a sysprep script for linux that will
 ask the costumer for user  and passwort setup when he first switches
 on the PC?
 
 On the technical side what I am currently doing is taking a normal
 setup, cleaning up distfiles, /usr/src, /tmp, /home, creating a new
 usser without any files of my own ;)
 cleaning out all my passwords of /etc.
 partimageing the partition, and dd'ing grub and sfdisking the partition table.
 Then playing back the images on the HDs I want to put into the devices later.

This is what the catalyst application does -- allow one to make their own
customized LiveCD installers*, just like Gentoo does with each periodic
snapshot release. The ebuild is in portage, and there's a catalyst
specific mailing list, should you have any questions.

---

* Presumably, they don't have to be CDs or CD images, but I've never used
it personally and haven't chanced to see that specifically stated in
threads such as this that I've come across, so can't say for sure.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Linux preinstalled

2005-10-14 Thread Alexander Simonov

What about mass instalation Gentoo?
Now it's how i know impossible, it's get more time.
Any one know technology for mass instalation Gentoo?
W/ NFS,HTTP or FTP instalation.
W/ X server, KDE or Gnome ?
W/ Office packages?
How i know RH and SuSE have this.
Thank you for ansver.


On Fri, 14.10.2005 10:12, Duncan wrote:
 Stefan Schweizer posted
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
 below,  on Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:33:57 +0200:

 I want to preinstall Gentoo Linux on some devices for customers. Do
 you have any tips for preinstallation, any scripts? What is the
 correct prcedure of doing so?
 Anyone knows of something like a sysprep script for linux that will
 ask the costumer for user  and passwort setup when he first switches
 on the PC?


 This is what the catalyst application does -- allow one to make their own
 customized LiveCD installers*, just like Gentoo does with each periodic
 snapshot release. The ebuild is in portage, and there's a catalyst
 specific mailing list, should you have any questions.

 ---

 * Presumably, they don't have to be CDs or CD images, but I've never used
 it personally and haven't chanced to see that specifically stated in
 threads such as this that I've come across, so can't say for sure.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Linux preinstalled

2005-10-14 Thread Preston Cody
The Gentoo Installer will be able to do mass installations very soon
using a secure XMLRPC server and nice web interface and all that
jazz. 
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/installer/
you can grab experimental livecds with the installer on them from the mirrors.
-CodemanOn 10/14/05, Alexander Simonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about mass instalation Gentoo?Now it's how i know impossible, it's get more time.Any one know technology for mass instalation Gentoo?W/ NFS,HTTP or FTP instalation.W/ X server, KDE or Gnome ?W/ Office packages?
How i know RH and SuSE have this.Thank you for ansver.On Fri, 14.10.2005 10:12, Duncan wrote: Stefan Schweizer posted 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below,on Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:33:57 +0200: I want to preinstall Gentoo Linux on some devices for customers. Do
 you have any tips for preinstallation, any scripts? What is the correct prcedure of doing so? Anyone knows of something like a sysprep script for linux that will ask the costumer for userand passwort setup when he first switches
 on the PC? This is what the catalyst application does -- allow one to make their own customized LiveCD installers*, just like Gentoo does with each periodic snapshot release. The ebuild is in portage, and there's a catalyst
 specific mailing list, should you have any questions. --- * Presumably, they don't have to be CDs or CD images, but I've never used it personally and haven't chanced to see that specifically stated in
 threads such as this that I've come across, so can't say for sure.--WBR, Alexander SimonovUkrainian Gentoo Community Coordinator--gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
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