Re: [gentoo-dev] Use acct-* for qmail users
Am Mittwoch, 18. September 2019, 21:51:41 CEST schrieb Rolf Eike Beer: > > Also, please do not add packages with no maintainer listed in > > metadata.xml. You can list yourself + proxy-maint at least. If you > > don't want to maintain them, you'll need to find someone else to do > > it. > > Done. Ping? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Use acct-* for qmail users
> Also, please do not add packages with no maintainer listed in > metadata.xml. You can list yourself + proxy-maint at least. If you > don't want to maintain them, you'll need to find someone else to do > it. Done. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Use acct-* for qmail users
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 6:08 PM Peter Stuge wrote: > Mike Gilbert wrote: > > If you don't want to maintain them, you'll need to find someone else > > to do it. > > If noone else wants to take this then you can add me as proxied maintainer. Thanks, but I'm not personally interested in proxying commits for qmail. You can work with the proxy-maint project if nobody else wants to do it. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Proxy_Maintainers/User_Guide#How_to_become_a_proxied_maintainer
Re: [gentoo-dev] Use acct-* for qmail users
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 5:17 PM Rolf Eike Beer wrote: > Am Sonntag, 15. September 2019, 17:29:11 CEST schrieb Mike Gilbert: > > I still see ACCT_USER_HOME=/var/qmail/alias in acct-user/alias. > > This is not /var/qmail as for the other ones, but indeed the mail distribution > user of qmail. The home directory is actually needed as this user receives all > mail that cannot be delivered otherwise and can be rerouted from that home > directory. Thanks for clarifying. No further objection from me in that case.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Use acct-* for qmail users
Mike Gilbert wrote: > Do the users actually need home directories? Technically probably no, but ~qmail is easier to type than /var/qmail. TBH I actually always type it out anyway. Mike Gilbert wrote: > If you don't want to maintain them, you'll need to find someone else > to do it. If noone else wants to take this then you can add me as proxied maintainer. //Peter
Re: [gentoo-dev] Use acct-* for qmail users
Am Sonntag, 15. September 2019, 17:29:11 CEST schrieb Mike Gilbert: > On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 5:10 AM Rolf Eike Beer wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 12. September 2019, 18:38:30 CEST schrieb Rolf Eike Beer: > > > Am Mittwoch, 11. September 2019, 00:54:39 CEST schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > > > > On 9/10/19 4:25 PM, Rolf Eike Beer wrote: > > > > > I'm not entirely sure. It's what qmail always has done and what the > > > > > eclass > > > > > also did. > > > > > > > > This is suggested by the qmail documentation, > > > > > > > > http://lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#create-users > > > > > > > > ...but goes back to at least 1998, and likely earlier. I grepped the > > > > source and don't see any obvious uses of $HOME. It was probably > > > > suggested by DJB simply because it's a directory, and guaranteed to > > > > exist on the various platforms that qmail supported at the time. > > > > > > I have tested it without a home directory on 2 of my machines and it > > > seems > > > like it works fine. I have removed the home directory from the patches. > > > > Ping? > > I still see ACCT_USER_HOME=/var/qmail/alias in acct-user/alias. This is not /var/qmail as for the other ones, but indeed the mail distribution user of qmail. The home directory is actually needed as this user receives all mail that cannot be delivered otherwise and can be rerouted from that home directory. > Also, please do not add packages with no maintainer listed in > metadata.xml. You can list yourself + proxy-maint at least. If you > don't want to maintain them, you'll need to find someone else to do > it. Hijacking qmail is a different story, I will care for that soon ;) Eike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Use acct-* for qmail users
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 5:10 AM Rolf Eike Beer wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 12. September 2019, 18:38:30 CEST schrieb Rolf Eike Beer: > > Am Mittwoch, 11. September 2019, 00:54:39 CEST schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > > > On 9/10/19 4:25 PM, Rolf Eike Beer wrote: > > > > I'm not entirely sure. It's what qmail always has done and what the > > > > eclass > > > > also did. > > > > > > This is suggested by the qmail documentation, > > > > > > http://lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#create-users > > > > > > ...but goes back to at least 1998, and likely earlier. I grepped the > > > source and don't see any obvious uses of $HOME. It was probably > > > suggested by DJB simply because it's a directory, and guaranteed to > > > exist on the various platforms that qmail supported at the time. > > > > I have tested it without a home directory on 2 of my machines and it seems > > like it works fine. I have removed the home directory from the patches. > > Ping? I still see ACCT_USER_HOME=/var/qmail/alias in acct-user/alias. Also, please do not add packages with no maintainer listed in metadata.xml. You can list yourself + proxy-maint at least. If you don't want to maintain them, you'll need to find someone else to do it.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Use acct-* for qmail users
Am Donnerstag, 12. September 2019, 18:38:30 CEST schrieb Rolf Eike Beer: > Am Mittwoch, 11. September 2019, 00:54:39 CEST schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > > On 9/10/19 4:25 PM, Rolf Eike Beer wrote: > > > I'm not entirely sure. It's what qmail always has done and what the > > > eclass > > > also did. > > > > This is suggested by the qmail documentation, > > > > http://lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#create-users > > > > ...but goes back to at least 1998, and likely earlier. I grepped the > > source and don't see any obvious uses of $HOME. It was probably > > suggested by DJB simply because it's a directory, and guaranteed to > > exist on the various platforms that qmail supported at the time. > > I have tested it without a home directory on 2 of my machines and it seems > like it works fine. I have removed the home directory from the patches. Ping? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Use acct-* for qmail users
Am Mittwoch, 11. September 2019, 00:54:39 CEST schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > On 9/10/19 4:25 PM, Rolf Eike Beer wrote: > > I'm not entirely sure. It's what qmail always has done and what the eclass > > also did. > > This is suggested by the qmail documentation, > > http://lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#create-users > > ...but goes back to at least 1998, and likely earlier. I grepped the > source and don't see any obvious uses of $HOME. It was probably > suggested by DJB simply because it's a directory, and guaranteed to > exist on the various platforms that qmail supported at the time. I have tested it without a home directory on 2 of my machines and it seems like it works fine. I have removed the home directory from the patches. Greetings, Eike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Use acct-* for qmail users
On 9/10/19 4:25 PM, Rolf Eike Beer wrote: > > I'm not entirely sure. It's what qmail always has done and what the eclass > also did. > This is suggested by the qmail documentation, http://lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#create-users ...but goes back to at least 1998, and likely earlier. I grepped the source and don't see any obvious uses of $HOME. It was probably suggested by DJB simply because it's a directory, and guaranteed to exist on the various platforms that qmail supported at the time. It would be best if someone who runs qmail could change them all to /dev/null and see if anything breaks. The home directory is already unwritable, and none of the users have shells, so I'm optimistic. At present, the following code is repeated six times, ACCT_USER_HOME=/var/qmail ACCT_USER_HOME_OWNER=root:qmail ACCT_USER_HOME_PERMS=0755 ACCT_USER_GROUPS=( nofiles ) and you have to keep them in sync for eternity. It would be less error-prone if you could create that directory (and /var/qmail/alias) only once, in the qmail ebuild, since that's the package that uses those directories.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Use acct-* for qmail users
Am Dienstag, 10. September 2019, 21:14:51 CEST schrieb Mike Gilbert: > On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 11:48 AM Rolf Eike Beer wrote: > > I have created a PR here that removes manual creation of users and groups > > from qmail.eclass and uses acct-* for that. There are already fixed uids > > and gids for these things, I just put them into ebuilds: > > > > https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/12898 > > Do the users actually need home directories? > > Please see Michael Orlitzky's proposed guidelines. > > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/fc55ac57cd92d9c1e156d13c882b0 > 8cf I'm not entirely sure. It's what qmail always has done and what the eclass also did. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Use acct-* for qmail users
On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 11:48 AM Rolf Eike Beer wrote: > > I have created a PR here that removes manual creation of users and groups from > qmail.eclass and uses acct-* for that. There are already fixed uids and gids > for these things, I just put them into ebuilds: > > https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/12898 Do the users actually need home directories? Please see Michael Orlitzky's proposed guidelines. https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/fc55ac57cd92d9c1e156d13c882b08cf
[gentoo-dev] Use acct-* for qmail users
I have created a PR here that removes manual creation of users and groups from qmail.eclass and uses acct-* for that. There are already fixed uids and gids for these things, I just put them into ebuilds: https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/12898 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
