Re: [gentoo-dev] arm64 update

2015-03-02 Thread Tom Gall
Thanks for doing that Yixun,

I’ll start on your list a little bit later this evening.

Best,
Tom

 On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Yixun Lan d...@gentoo.org wrote:
 
 On 14:27 Wed 18 Feb , Tom Gall wrote:
 So first, for those interested in cheap arm64 hardware, the first 96 board 
 is going to start shipping in March for ~$129. The HiKey board is an 8 way 
 64 bit ARM board with 8 A53 cores. (No A57s bummer!)  Only had a gig of 
 memory on the board but it’s not a bad device. I’ve had one for about 2-3 
 weeks now. I’m basically running off a USB hard disk for the moment and 
 thankfully the kernel continues to improve. 
 
 The one downside is you really really need a 1.8v USB - UART cable. You can 
 get them from digikey and connect it on the board. If working with raw 
 cables makes you squeamish take a breath, you’ll be fine.
 
 Info and links at:
 
 https://www.96boards.org
 
 
 Ok so hardware aside here’s the arm64 gentoo plan.
 
 1) new stage3 put together and get that onto the mirrors for consumption. 
 2) Get the handbook extended to include arm64
 3) continued package stabilization
 
 Volunteers most welcome.
 
 Hi Tom
 I'd do step 0) - keyword ebuilds, and here are the ebuilds [1] which
 all tested on my hardware here (also A53)
 xfce4, lxde works here; have problem with qt4, no arm64 support, 
 can leverage patches from debian/ubuntu; 
 
 btw, is there any script to do massive keyword?
 
 [1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~dlan/misc/keyarm64.txt
 
 -- 
 Yixun Lan (dlan)
 Gentoo Linux Developer
 GPG Key ID AABEFD55
 




Re: [gentoo-dev] arm64 update

2015-03-02 Thread Yixun Lan
On 14:27 Wed 18 Feb , Tom Gall wrote:
 So first, for those interested in cheap arm64 hardware, the first 96 board is 
 going to start shipping in March for ~$129. The HiKey board is an 8 way 64 
 bit ARM board with 8 A53 cores. (No A57s bummer!)  Only had a gig of memory 
 on the board but it’s not a bad device. I’ve had one for about 2-3 weeks now. 
 I’m basically running off a USB hard disk for the moment and thankfully the 
 kernel continues to improve. 
 
 The one downside is you really really need a 1.8v USB - UART cable. You can 
 get them from digikey and connect it on the board. If working with raw cables 
 makes you squeamish take a breath, you’ll be fine.
 
 Info and links at:
 
 https://www.96boards.org
 
 
 Ok so hardware aside here’s the arm64 gentoo plan.
 
 1) new stage3 put together and get that onto the mirrors for consumption. 
 2) Get the handbook extended to include arm64
 3) continued package stabilization
 
 Volunteers most welcome.
 
Hi Tom
 I'd do step 0) - keyword ebuilds, and here are the ebuilds [1] which
all tested on my hardware here (also A53)
 xfce4, lxde works here; have problem with qt4, no arm64 support, 
can leverage patches from debian/ubuntu; 

 btw, is there any script to do massive keyword?

[1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~dlan/misc/keyarm64.txt

-- 
Yixun Lan (dlan)
Gentoo Linux Developer
GPG Key ID AABEFD55



Re: [gentoo-dev] arm64 update

2015-02-20 Thread Luca Barbato

On 19/02/15 01:05, Anthony G. Basile wrote:

I have about $1000 in grant money.  Want to recommend some equipment?


The dragonboard might be good BUT there are doubts on software availability.

lu





Re: [gentoo-dev] arm64 update

2015-02-18 Thread C Bergström
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Tom Gall tg...@gentoo.org wrote:

 So first, for those interested in cheap arm64 hardware, the first 96 board
 is going to start shipping in March for ~$129. The HiKey board is an 8 way
 64 bit ARM board with 8 A53 cores. (No A57s bummer!)  Only had a gig of
 memory on the board but it’s not a bad device. I’ve had one for about 2-3
 weeks now. I’m basically running off a USB hard disk for the moment and
 thankfully the kernel continues to improve.

 The one downside is you really really need a 1.8v USB - UART cable. You
 can get them from digikey and connect it on the board. If working with raw
 cables makes you squeamish take a breath, you’ll be fine.

 Info and links at:

 https://www.96boards.org


 Ok so hardware aside here’s the arm64 gentoo plan.

 1) new stage3 put together and get that onto the mirrors for consumption.
 2) Get the handbook extended to include arm64
 3) continued package stabilization


If devs don't mind working out of a chroot - I can potentially get access
to some hardware or possibly help test after things are a bit more stable.

If possible I do really recommend getting something with an A57 core (vs
a53) - there is quite a bit of difference from the compiler side of how
they compare.

How much are the APM xgene1 systems selling for? Has anyone tried to
request hw from: APM, ARM, Cavium or AMD?


[gentoo-dev] arm64 update

2015-02-18 Thread Tom Gall
So first, for those interested in cheap arm64 hardware, the first 96 board is 
going to start shipping in March for ~$129. The HiKey board is an 8 way 64 bit 
ARM board with 8 A53 cores. (No A57s bummer!)  Only had a gig of memory on the 
board but it’s not a bad device. I’ve had one for about 2-3 weeks now. I’m 
basically running off a USB hard disk for the moment and thankfully the kernel 
continues to improve. 

The one downside is you really really need a 1.8v USB - UART cable. You can 
get them from digikey and connect it on the board. If working with raw cables 
makes you squeamish take a breath, you’ll be fine.

Info and links at:

https://www.96boards.org


Ok so hardware aside here’s the arm64 gentoo plan.

1) new stage3 put together and get that onto the mirrors for consumption. 
2) Get the handbook extended to include arm64
3) continued package stabilization

Volunteers most welcome.

Regards,
Tom
(tgall_foo, Dr_Who) 


Re: [gentoo-dev] arm64 update

2015-02-18 Thread Tom Gall

 On Feb 18, 2015, at 2:32 PM, C Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Tom Gall tg...@gentoo.org 
 mailto:tg...@gentoo.org wrote:
 So first, for those interested in cheap arm64 hardware, the first 96 board is 
 going to start shipping in March for ~$129. The HiKey board is an 8 way 64 
 bit ARM board with 8 A53 cores. (No A57s bummer!)  Only had a gig of memory 
 on the board but it’s not a bad device. I’ve had one for about 2-3 weeks now. 
 I’m basically running off a USB hard disk for the moment and thankfully the 
 kernel continues to improve.
 
 The one downside is you really really need a 1.8v USB - UART cable. You can 
 get them from digikey and connect it on the board. If working with raw cables 
 makes you squeamish take a breath, you’ll be fine.
 
 Info and links at:
 
 https://www.96boards.org https://www.96boards.org/
 
 
 Ok so hardware aside here’s the arm64 gentoo plan.
 
 1) new stage3 put together and get that onto the mirrors for consumption.
 2) Get the handbook extended to include arm64
 3) continued package stabilization
 
 
 If devs don't mind working out of a chroot - I can potentially get access to 
 some hardware or possibly help test after things are a bit more stable.

Always good to hear.


 If possible I do really recommend getting something with an A57 core (vs a53) 
 - there is quite a bit of difference from the compiler side of how they 
 compare.

Yeah there’s certainly more performance with A57 cores. OTOH, the best dev 
board is the one you have in your hand.


 How much are the APM xgene1 systems selling for? Has anyone tried to request 
 hw from: APM, ARM, Cavium or AMD?

It’s a good question. I’ve  been personally wondering about the AMD Seattle 
boards. I do have a request in for one. ARM Juno I have access to remotely 
which isn’t the best situation for putting together install instructions and 
testing :-/ 

Best,
Tom





Re: [gentoo-dev] arm64 update

2015-02-18 Thread Anthony G. Basile

On 02/18/15 15:32, C Bergström wrote:

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Tom Gall tg...@gentoo.org wrote:


So first, for those interested in cheap arm64 hardware, the first 96 board
is going to start shipping in March for ~$129. The HiKey board is an 8 way
64 bit ARM board with 8 A53 cores. (No A57s bummer!)  Only had a gig of
memory on the board but it’s not a bad device. I’ve had one for about 2-3
weeks now. I’m basically running off a USB hard disk for the moment and
thankfully the kernel continues to improve.

The one downside is you really really need a 1.8v USB - UART cable. You
can get them from digikey and connect it on the board. If working with raw
cables makes you squeamish take a breath, you’ll be fine.

Info and links at:

https://www.96boards.org


Ok so hardware aside here’s the arm64 gentoo plan.

1) new stage3 put together and get that onto the mirrors for consumption.
2) Get the handbook extended to include arm64
3) continued package stabilization



If devs don't mind working out of a chroot - I can potentially get access
to some hardware or possibly help test after things are a bit more stable.


I don't mind chroots.  I want to build stage3 and do stabilizations.



If possible I do really recommend getting something with an A57 core (vs
a53) - there is quite a bit of difference from the compiler side of how
they compare.

How much are the APM xgene1 systems selling for? Has anyone tried to
request hw from: APM, ARM, Cavium or AMD?



I have about $1000 in grant money.  Want to recommend some equipment?

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Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened]
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