Re: [half-PROCTORS] Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!
Please everyone, keep flames off this list. Thank you. On 5/31/07, Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:58:00 +0200 Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I take this as a compliment to Bryan, but then still you are implying > that most of the people here are not sane. Remember people, you can't compliment anyone now, because doing so implies that everyone else is less valuable than they are. Seriously, get a grip. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Ioannis Aslanidis 0xB9B11F4E -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [half-PROCTORS] Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!
On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:58:00 +0200 Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I take this as a compliment to Bryan, but then still you are implying > that most of the people here are not sane. Remember people, you can't compliment anyone now, because doing so implies that everyone else is less valuable than they are. Seriously, get a grip. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [half-PROCTORS] Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!
On Thu, 31 May 2007 17:21:20 +0200 Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think much worse things have been said on this list before, but > still statements like that are the basis of a poisonous > environment. And statements like that are a large part of what caused this thread to begin with... -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [half-PROCTORS] Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:22:31AM -0400, Chrissy Fullam wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 03:01:07AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> Sad to see one of the few remaining sane people leave. > > > I take this as a compliment to Bryan, but then still you are implying > > that most of the people here are not sane. > Amne, I do value your opinion but in this case, I respectfully > disagree. Fair enough. > I do not see the harm in what Ciaran said above to be any greater than > another person stating "sad to see one of the best/key/etc leave" - by > your standards that would imply the rest of us are less than best. That would be a positive statement because it would imply the other people are normal, and Bryan was one of the best, which is a positive statement. Saying "one of the few remaining sane" people is a generally negative statement that is judgemental towards the whole community, which is what the the CoC/proctors are supposed to proactively discourage. I think much worse things have been said on this list before, but still statements like that are the basis of a poisonous environment. All i was asking ciaranm is to be nice to people. > Ciaran may be controversial at times, but I think we can see that he was > paying Bryan a compliment. I even admitted it was meant as a compliment, see above. Hope that clears things up a bit. cheers, Wernfried PS: If anyone feels tempted to reply to this, please take it to the gentoo-proctors list instead of -dev, we're getting OT here. ;-) -- Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne (at) gentoo.org http://forums.gentoo.org || http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/proctors/ forum-mods (at) gentoo.org || proctors (at) gentoo.org #gentoo-forums || #gentoo-proctors (freenode) pgp9x8uol4g82.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [half-PROCTORS] Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!
-Original Message- From: Wernfried Haas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 03:35:20AM +0200, Bryan Østergaard wrote: >> No matter how hard I try fighting for what I feel is right we seem to >> end up with petty fights, flamewars or what I consider even worse - >> people simply ignore what I'm working hard towards. On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 03:01:07AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> Sad to see one of the few remaining sane people leave. > I take this as a compliment to Bryan, but then still you are implying > that most of the people here are not sane. > I specifically also put in the quote by Bryan, because your comment in > this thread seems to sum up the problem quite nicely. If we can't even > have a thread where a developer leaves out of frustration without > general insults from you, there may be the need for the proctors to do > something about it. So please, be nice to other people. Amne, I do value your opinion but in this case, I respectfully disagree. I do not see the harm in what Ciaran said above to be any greater than another person stating "sad to see one of the best/key/etc leave" - by your standards that would imply the rest of us are less than best. Ciaran may be controversial at times, but I think we can see that he was paying Bryan a compliment. Kind regards, Christina Fullam Gentoo Developer Relations | Conflict Resolution GWN Author -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
