Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
El sáb, 06-06-2020 a las 14:50 -0400, Aaron Bauman escribió: > All, the graphics project has now been disbanded. > > All packages have been reassigned to maintainer-needed. Bugs will be > reassigned soon. > > Here are a list of the packages that are now up for grabs: > [...] I have seen that many of them already have maintainers or co-maintainers, maybe listing only those that are going to maintainer-needed would be more useful to catch packages needing attention Thanks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
On Sat, Jun 06, 2020 at 08:55:38PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El sáb, 06-06-2020 a las 14:50 -0400, Aaron Bauman escribió: > > All, the graphics project has now been disbanded. > > > > All packages have been reassigned to maintainer-needed. Bugs will be > > reassigned soon. > > > > Here are a list of the packages that are now up for grabs: > > > [...] > > I have seen that many of them already have maintainers or co-maintainers, > maybe > listing only those that are going to maintainer-needed would be more useful to > catch packages needing attention > > Thanks Pacho, thanks. I did not remove those packages from the email, but the metadata still reflects properly. A cursory look at the packages with more than 1 maintainer seems rather small. -- Cheers, Aaron signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
On Sat, Jun 06, 2020 at 02:50:31PM -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote: > All, the graphics project has now been disbanded. > > All packages have been reassigned to maintainer-needed. Bugs will be > reassigned soon. > > Here are a list of the packages that are now up for grabs: > > dev-cpp/pngpp To expound on this, the graphics project has a quite a few bugs assigned to them (169). A few packages have co-maintainers, but these are still reflected in the metadata as required. If anyone else has time to address the bugs or wants to take the package over please do. If you hit a package with a co-maintainer then my apologies. -- Cheers, Aaron signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
On 6/6/20 2:50 PM, Aaron Bauman wrote: > All, the graphics project has now been disbanded. > Is it weird to ask what happened? It seems like a lot of the packages listed here should be and are very popular :O Aisha > All packages have been reassigned to maintainer-needed. Bugs will be > reassigned soon. > > Here are a list of the packages that are now up for grabs: > > dev-cpp/pngpp > media-gfx/album > media-gfx/apng2gif > media-gfx/apngasm > media-gfx/apngdis > media-gfx/apngopt > media-gfx/autopano-sift-C > media-gfx/blender > media-gfx/cellwriter > media-gfx/chafa > media-gfx/cptutils > media-gfx/darktable > media-gfx/dcraw > media-gfx/duhdraw > media-gfx/enblend > media-gfx/exact-image > media-gfx/exif > media-gfx/exiv2 > media-gfx/feh > media-gfx/fim > media-gfx/fontypython > media-gfx/fr0st > media-gfx/gif2apng > media-gfx/gif2png > media-gfx/gifsicle > media-gfx/gimageview > media-gfx/gmic > media-gfx/gnofract4d > media-gfx/gphoto2 > media-gfx/gphotofs > media-gfx/gpicview > media-gfx/gqview > media-gfx/graphicsmagick > media-gfx/grub-splashes > media-gfx/gtkam > media-gfx/gtkimageview > media-gfx/hugin > media-gfx/icon-slicer > media-gfx/igal > media-gfx/imagemagick > media-gfx/jhead > media-gfx/jigl > media-gfx/jpeg2ps > media-gfx/jpeginfo > media-gfx/jpegoptim > media-gfx/jpegpixi > media-gfx/jpegtoavi > media-gfx/libimagequant > media-gfx/llgal > media-gfx/luminance-hdr > media-gfx/mandelbulber > media-gfx/mcomix > media-gfx/metapixel > media-gfx/mscgen > media-gfx/nvidia-cg-toolkit > media-gfx/openclipart > media-gfx/panini > media-gfx/pdf2svg > media-gfx/png2ico > media-gfx/pngcheck > media-gfx/pngcrush > media-gfx/pngquant > media-gfx/pngrewrite > media-gfx/pngtools > media-gfx/potrace > media-gfx/povtree > media-gfx/pqiv > media-gfx/pqstego > media-gfx/qiv > media-gfx/qvv > media-gfx/raw-thumbnailer > media-gfx/rawtherapee > media-gfx/rotoscope > media-gfx/scantailor-advanced > media-gfx/scour > media-gfx/scrot > media-gfx/sfftobmp > media-gfx/shotwell > media-gfx/sxiv > media-gfx/tintii > media-gfx/tuxpaint-stamps > media-gfx/tuxpaint > media-gfx/ufraw > media-gfx/uniconvertor > media-gfx/wings > media-gfx/wkhtmltopdf > media-gfx/xli > media-gfx/xloadimage > media-gfx/xsane > media-gfx/xzgv > media-libs/cimg > media-libs/esdl > media-libs/exiftool > media-libs/flickcurl > media-libs/gd > media-libs/giblib > media-libs/giflib > media-libs/icclib > media-libs/imlib > media-libs/jbig2dec > media-libs/jbigkit > media-libs/jpeg > media-libs/lasi > media-libs/lensfun > media-libs/libexif-gtk > media-libs/libexif > media-libs/libfpx > media-libs/libgphoto2 > media-libs/libharu > media-libs/libheif > media-libs/libicns > media-libs/libjpeg-turbo > media-libs/libmng > media-libs/libpano13 > media-libs/libpgf > media-libs/libpqstego > media-libs/libraw > media-libs/libwebp > media-libs/netpbm > media-libs/opencolorio > media-libs/openimageio > media-libs/openjpeg > media-libs/pnglite > media-libs/stimg > media-libs/tiff > media-libs/urt > sci-visualization/grace > virtual/imagemagick-tools > virtual/jpeg-compat > virtual/jpeg > x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf-loader-webp > x11-misc/gromit > x11-misc/shutter > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
OK so if you really want to go through with this then I'll take these. > media-gfx/album > media-gfx/enblend > media-gfx/exiv2 > media-gfx/gphoto2 > media-gfx/hugin > media-gfx/imagemagick > media-gfx/jpeg2ps > media-gfx/jhead > media-gfx/luminance-hdr > media-gfx/pngquant > media-libs/lensfun > media-libs/libgphoto2 That said, I think the basic action is in this case pretty unproductive. We now have a large number of central libraries maintainer-needed (libpng, jpeg, tiff, ...) which would really merit a team... -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 7:05 PM Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: > That said, I think the basic action is in this case pretty unproductive. We > now have a large number of central libraries maintainer-needed (libpng, jpeg, > tiff, ...) which would really merit a team... Seems like one or two devs have been bumping the packages you listed for the last couple of years, and neither of them are actually members of the graphics project. I don't see the value in a project where none of the members actually maintain their packages.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
On 6/6/20 10:11 PM, Aisha Tammy wrote: > On 6/6/20 2:50 PM, Aaron Bauman wrote: >> All, the graphics project has now been disbanded. >> > Is it weird to ask what happened? > > It seems like a lot of the packages listed here should be and are > very popular :O > > Aisha > Hi, floppym's response sums it up. https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/c0b5e5e1ab4e0ed77725d4366a5232be jstein started a new thread about this subject, https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/f9fae5f9583e73e6d4dbf4fc521dd559 -- juippis signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
El sáb, 06-06-2020 a las 15:09 -0400, Aaron Bauman escribió: > On Sat, Jun 06, 2020 at 02:50:31PM -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote: > > All, the graphics project has now been disbanded. > > > > All packages have been reassigned to maintainer-needed. Bugs will be > > reassigned soon. > > > > Here are a list of the packages that are now up for grabs: > > > > dev-cpp/pngpp > > To expound on this, the graphics project has a quite a few bugs assigned > to them (169). A few packages have co-maintainers, but these are still > reflected in the metadata as required. > > If anyone else has time to address the bugs or wants to take the package > over please do. > > If you hit a package with a co-maintainer then my apologies. > I think this is the list of completely unmaintained packages now (indeed most of them, around 100) :) dev-cpp/pngpp media-gfx/apng2gif media-gfx/apngasm media-gfx/apngdis media-gfx/apngopt media-gfx/autopano-sift-C media-gfx/cellwriter media-gfx/chafa media-gfx/cptutils media-gfx/darktable media-gfx/dcraw media-gfx/duhdraw media-gfx/enblend media-gfx/exact-image media-gfx/exif media-gfx/fim media-gfx/fr0st media-gfx/gif2apng media-gfx/gif2png media-gfx/gifsicle media-gfx/gimageview media-gfx/gmic media-gfx/gnofract4d media-gfx/graphicsmagick media-gfx/grub-splashes media-gfx/gtkimageview media-gfx/hugin media-gfx/icon-slicer media-gfx/igal media-gfx/imagemagick media-gfx/jhead media-gfx/jigl media-gfx/jpeginfo media-gfx/jpegoptim media-gfx/jpegpixi media-gfx/libimagequant media-gfx/luminance-hdr media-gfx/mandelbulber media-gfx/metapixel media-gfx/mscgen media-gfx/nvidia-cg-toolkit media-gfx/openclipart media-gfx/panini media-gfx/pdf2svg media-gfx/png2ico media-gfx/pngcheck media-gfx/pngcrush media-gfx/pngquant media-gfx/pngrewrite media-gfx/povtree media-gfx/pqiv media-gfx/pqstego media-gfx/qiv media-gfx/qvv media-gfx/raw-thumbnailer media-gfx/rotoscope media-gfx/scantailor-advanced media-gfx/scour media-gfx/sfftobmp media-gfx/sxiv media-gfx/tintii media-gfx/tuxpaint-stamps media-gfx/tuxpaint media-gfx/ufraw media-gfx/uniconvertor media-gfx/wkhtmltopdf media-gfx/xli media-gfx/xloadimage media-gfx/xzgv media-libs/cimg media-libs/esdl media-libs/flickcurl media-libs/gd media-libs/giblib media-libs/giflib media-libs/imlib media-libs/jbigkit media-libs/jpeg media-libs/lensfun media-libs/libexif-gtk media-libs/libexif media-libs/libfpx media-libs/libheif media-libs/libicns media-libs/libjpeg-turbo media-libs/libmng media-libs/libpano13 media-libs/libpgf media-libs/libpqstego media-libs/libraw media-libs/netpbm media-libs/opencolorio media-libs/openimageio media-libs/openjpeg media-libs/pnglite media-libs/stimg media-libs/tiff media-libs/urt virtual/imagemagick-tools virtual/jpeg-compat virtual/jpeg x11-misc/gromit x11-misc/shutter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
вс, 7 июн. 2020 г. в 09:10, Pacho Ramos : > > > I think this is the list of completely unmaintained packages now (indeed most > of > them, around 100) :) > > x11-misc/shutter I'm updating this one right now
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
On 6/7/20 2:28 AM, Joonas Niilola wrote: > > On 6/6/20 10:11 PM, Aisha Tammy wrote: >> On 6/6/20 2:50 PM, Aaron Bauman wrote: >>> All, the graphics project has now been disbanded. >>> >> Is it weird to ask what happened? >> >> It seems like a lot of the packages listed here should be and are >> very popular :O >> >> Aisha >> > Hi, > > floppym's response sums it up. > > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/c0b5e5e1ab4e0ed77725d4366a5232be > > jstein started a new thread about this subject, > > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/f9fae5f9583e73e6d4dbf4fc521dd559 > Indeed, thanks a lot. I should have anticipated that there would be further discussion on this, before prematurely asking simple question >.< Nonetheless, an interesting situation. I never knew too much about projects. Aisha > -- juippis > > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
200607 Pacho Ramos wrote: > I think this is the list of completely unmaintained packages now, > indeed most of them, around 100. -- extract from list -- > media-gfx/imagemagick : 200516 > media-libs/giflib : 200312 > media-libs/libjpeg-turbo : 200328 > media-libs/openjpeg : 200328 > virtual/jpeg : 200606 There have been upgrades of all these in recent months : dates when I upgraded on my desktop system are added (the last yesterday). Surely, that means someone is maintaining them. Perhaps the culprits could own up (smile). As a long-time user, I find it disturbing that a huge list of packages should suddenly be declared unmaintained, esp as some of them -- eg above -- are likely needed by most users. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatcadotinterdotnet
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
> On 8 Jun 2020, at 00:22, Philip Webb wrote: > > 200607 Pacho Ramos wrote: >> I think this is the list of completely unmaintained packages now, >> indeed most of them, around 100. > > -- extract from list -- > >> media-gfx/imagemagick : 200516 >> media-libs/giflib : 200312 >> media-libs/libjpeg-turbo : 200328 >> media-libs/openjpeg : 200328 >> virtual/jpeg : 200606 > > There have been upgrades of all these in recent months : > dates when I upgraded on my desktop system are added (the last yesterday). Basically all of these get done by us in security@ because they tend to have vulnerabilities and they are core packages. > Surely, that means someone is maintaining them. > Perhaps the culprits could own up (smile). Maybe. If nobody else does, I will, but it’s easier if someone with +w does for now. > > As a long-time user, I find it disturbing > that a huge list of packages should suddenly be declared unmaintained, > esp as some of them -- eg above -- are likely needed by most users. They’re declared to not have a named maintainer — I promise you, they are not going anywhere, even though this appears concerning. With graphics@, it was an “open secret” that they were unmaintained, now it’s clear that anyone is welcome to help. I hope this helps reassure you a bit — the gist is, they’re not going anywhere, and nobody would let these packages leave the tree. This is essentially just making the formalities reflect reality — to be clear we’re welcome to touch these packages and help. > > -- > ,, > SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb > ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto > TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatcadotinterdotnet > >
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 7:22 PM Philip Webb wrote: > > 200607 Pacho Ramos wrote: > > I think this is the list of completely unmaintained packages now, > > indeed most of them, around 100. > > -- extract from list -- > > > media-gfx/imagemagick : 200516 > > media-libs/giflib : 200312 > > media-libs/libjpeg-turbo : 200328 > > media-libs/openjpeg : 200328 > > virtual/jpeg : 200606 > > There have been upgrades of all these in recent months : > dates when I upgraded on my desktop system are added (the last yesterday). > Surely, that means someone is maintaining them. > Perhaps the culprits could own up (smile). > > As a long-time user, I find it disturbing > that a huge list of packages should suddenly be declared unmaintained, > esp as some of them -- eg above -- are likely needed by most users. They were not maintained by identified developers before - that is the point. The only thing that is changing is that metadata is being updated to reflect reality. Now these packages will get more notice and developers can set up and maintain them as needed. The packages aren't being removed - just the project. If any of the packages assigned to the graphics projects already had individual maintainers then those would still remain after the project is removed. Put it this way - suppose we created a project called "dummy" with no developers in it, and we assigned that project to all the packages that are maintaner-needed. Would that actually change anything? XML tags in metadata files don't maintain packages - people do. This sort of thing has happened many times in the past. Sometimes it does result in packages getting treecleaned, but mainly when they have other serious issues. Popular packages aren't likely to get removed this way - certainly not something like libjpeg or imagemagick and so on. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
On Sat, 6 Jun, 2020 at 14:50, Aaron Bauman wrote: All, the graphics project has now been disbanded. All packages have been reassigned to maintainer-needed. Bugs will be reassigned soon. Here are a list of the packages that are now up for grabs: ... media-gfx/gnofract4d GitHub PR updated with proxy-maint metadata update: https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/15987 Chris
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
On Sat, 2020-06-06 at 14:50 -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote: > All, the graphics project has now been disbanded. > > All packages have been reassigned to maintainer-needed. Bugs will be > reassigned soon. > Maybe it'd make sense to create a new project that is focused on maintaining core libraries for gfx/audio/video formats (technical name: codec project)? Right now, sound and video teams are also suffering from similar problems. On one hand, it makes little sense to create huge projects that maintain every single kind of gfx/sound/video- related tool ever made, on the other it doesn't exactly make sense to require every single core library to have an individual maintainer. -- Best regards, Michał Górny signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
On Sun, 07 Jun 2020 02:05:56 +0300 Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: >OK so if you really want to go through with this then I'll take these. > >> media-gfx/album >> media-gfx/enblend >> media-gfx/exiv2 >> media-gfx/gphoto2 >> media-gfx/hugin >> media-gfx/imagemagick >> media-gfx/jpeg2ps >> media-gfx/jhead >> media-gfx/luminance-hdr >> media-gfx/pngquant >> media-libs/lensfun >> media-libs/libgphoto2 > >That said, I think the basic action is in this case pretty >unproductive. We now have a large number of central libraries >maintainer-needed (libpng, jpeg, tiff, ...) which would really merit a >team... > > Just for the record, media-libs/libpng belongs to base-system team for years. I do not even remember it ever belonged to graphics team. So it's obviously not up for grabs :) Cheers Lars -- Lars Wendler Gentoo package maintainer GPG: 21CC CF02 4586 0A07 ED93 9F68 498F E765 960E 9B39 pgpVM0tuzLE2x.pgp Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
Am Montag, 8. Juni 2020, 19:02:51 EEST schrieb Michał Górny: > Maybe it'd make sense to create a new project that is focused > on maintaining core libraries for gfx/audio/video formats (technical > name: codec project)? Right now, sound and video teams are also > suffering from similar problems. On one hand, it makes little sense to > create huge projects that maintain every single kind of gfx/sound/video- > related tool ever made, on the other it doesn't exactly make sense to > require every single core library to have an individual maintainer. Count me in. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Codec_project Here's the page. I consider this started once 3 other people have joined... -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphics Project disbanded [pkgs up for grabs]
On 2020-06-06 20:50, Aaron Bauman wrote: > media-gfx/darktable > media-gfx/pngcrush I'll take these. -- MS signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature