Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_MESSAGES=C again?

2011-12-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 05 December 2011 17:12:44 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
 Rich Freeman schrieb:
  Can we  just translate the error messages?
  
  That seems pretty impractical to me.  Google Translate is about your
  only option here,
 
 Actually the translation already exists in /usr/share/locale/ and just
 needs to be looked up, so it appears not entirely impractical. Still,
 probably not worth the effort.

assuming you have the same version of the package issuing the error message 
installed locally, and you haven't restricted your LINGUAS in anyway (so you 
have them all installed), then yes ;)
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_MESSAGES=C again?

2011-12-05 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Rich Freeman schrieb:
 Can we  just translate the error messages?
 That seems pretty impractical to me.  Google Translate is about your
 only option here,

Actually the translation already exists in /usr/share/locale/ and just
needs to be looked up, so it appears not entirely impractical. Still,
probably not worth the effort.


Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn



Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_MESSAGES=C again?

2011-12-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote:
 Can we  just translate the error messages?


That seems pretty impractical to me.  Google Translate is about your
only option here, and somehow I doubt it is up to parsing build logs.
Hand translation could work if we increases the understaffed bug
wrangling team to the size of the UN...  :)

Rich



Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_MESSAGES=C again?

2011-12-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 00:21:42 -0500
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:

 and in reality, you're complaining only about LC_MESSAGES, not LC_ALL
 or any other locale category ...

Fine.


 jer



Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_MESSAGES=C again?

2011-12-03 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 00:21:42 -0500
 Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:

 and in reality, you're complaining only about LC_MESSAGES, not LC_ALL
 or any other locale category ...

 Fine.

Can we  just translate the error messages?

-A



     jer




Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_MESSAGES=C again?

2011-12-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 22:14:16 -0800
Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote:

 Can we  just translate the error messages?

*I* sure can but it takes time and effort, and for ever developer who
looks at this, the process is repeated unless bug wranglers or other
handy users happen to provide the translation.

Just think of looking into a large build log, checking that the
error: should now be Fehler: or something in an altogether
different script you can't even read, and then searching backwards
through the log to find the first occurrence. Do the same for No such
file or directory, undefined reference and so on - the things that
most commonly get translated.

Or do you mean automate translation whenever something is attached to a
bug report? I think we'd be doing things the wrong way round then, but
feel free to donate the machine translation server farm to do it. Also,
make sure the result uses the same (original) strings and that you don't
get funny google translate surprises.


 jer