Re: [gentoo-dev] inetd/xinetd useflags
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 01:26, Mike Frysinger wrote: personally i'd support a doxinetd func that would check to see if xinetd is installed rather than go with a USE flag ... As Donnie also said, automagical stuff is not so good. One can want the xinetd file for cvs but not svn for example. -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò Gentoo Developer - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Gentoo/AMD64, Sound, PAM) pgp4QTUskriIt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] inetd/xinetd useflags
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 08:34:20PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: personally i'd support a doxinetd func that would check to see if xinetd is installed rather than go with a USE flag ... This kind of auto-enabling stuff is our bane upstream, so I don't see that creating more of it ourselves is a good idea. yes, but since it's common practice to have all xinetd services disabled by default that won't hurt because the user will have to enable the service manually anyway. -- Stelian Ionescu aka fe[nl]ix Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur. pgp24K3lGC30i.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] inetd/xinetd useflags
Vapier wrote: [Tue Jul 05 2005, 07:26:26PM EDT] so what we should do? Add a global xinetd useflag and a doxinetd function to add/remove the installed config files? Yeah i know they aren't so big.. but the less, the best. personally i'd support a doxinetd func that would check to see if xinetd is installed rather than go with a USE flag ... No, the USE flag is the right way. Otherwise it's an environmental dependency, exactly the thing we try to avoid. Diego: what is the content of doxinetd? Regards, Aron -- Aron Griffis Gentoo Linux Developer pgpGMgrheSOMh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] inetd/xinetd useflags
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 15:36, Aron Griffis wrote:
Diego: what is the content of doxinetd?
Right now? It doesn't exists.
It was an idea. I think something like:
doxinetd() {
if ! hasq xinetd ${IUSE} || use xinetd;
insinto /etc/xinetd.d #or whatever the dir is, not sure about it
doins $@
fi
}
that's just a quick mockup, sure.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] inetd/xinetd useflags
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 16:17, Mike Frysinger wrote: the hasq part is pointless and the insinto is bad form for a do* func It's not pointless, ignoring it will make us come back to the old problem of dopamd/newpamd functions which couldn't be used on non-optional-pam-dependant packages because if someone had -pam in useflags the file wasn't installed, also if pam wasn't optional (and so pam was not in IUSE). For the insinto, yeah you're right. -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò Gentoo Developer - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Gentoo/AMD64, Sound, PAM) pgpC65tKKF0tU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] inetd/xinetd useflags
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 10:32 am, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Wednesday 06 July 2005 16:17, Mike Frysinger wrote: the hasq part is pointless and the insinto is bad form for a do* func It's not pointless, ignoring it will make us come back to the old problem of dopamd/newpamd functions which couldn't be used on non-optional-pam-dependant packages because if someone had -pam in useflags the file wasn't installed, also if pam wasn't optional (and so pam was not in IUSE). that's a hack if i ever heard one you should add a 'force' flag or something ... `dopamd -f` ... making it rely on IUSE setting is just plain nasty -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] inetd/xinetd useflags
On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 09:36:54AM -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: No, the USE flag is the right way. If we do it for xinetd files, we should also do it for logrotate files. Right now there are 4 packages that have logrotate as a local USE flag, but I know for a fact there are more that can use it (well, at least one anyway). Maurice. -- Maurice van der Pot Gentoo Linux Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org Creator of BiteMe! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kfk4ever.com pgpX0hQAJ9QKH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] inetd/xinetd useflags
Maurice van der Pot wrote: [Wed Jul 06 2005, 02:20:15PM EDT] If we do it for xinetd files, we should also do it for logrotate files. Agreed. FWIW, I'd like to see xinetd and logrotate in default USE for the profiles since otherwise it would be a pain to go through and remerge things after putting them in make.conf Aron -- Aron Griffis Gentoo Linux Developer pgpPmGMQiLPhK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] inetd/xinetd useflags
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 06:17 pm, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: inetd is the old-unix-insecure implementation that it's usually used. xinetd is a (drop-in?) replacement for it which is now used by quite everyone who wants an inetd-style daemons. you cant technically say it's a drop in since you have to redo the config files, but for all intents and purposes, it is ... old school inetd suffered from many issues (resource management being the foremost) so xinetd was born ... it is the preferred inetd in Gentoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep inetd devel/gentoo-x86/profiles/use.* devel/gentoo-x86/profiles/use.local.desc:dev-db/firebird:inetd - If you want inetd version instead of a superserver (daemon) unrelated to anything in this e-mail so what we should do? Add a global xinetd useflag and a doxinetd function to add/remove the installed config files? Yeah i know they aren't so big.. but the less, the best. personally i'd support a doxinetd func that would check to see if xinetd is installed rather than go with a USE flag ... -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] inetd/xinetd useflags
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