Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - Comprehension

2006-07-11 Thread Matthias Schwarzott
On Sunday 09 July 2006 19:17, Matthias Schwarzott wrote:

We will use the alternative c) - as lu_zero and flameeyes suggested.

 c) Using media-tv as herd and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (project's mail-address) as
 maintainer. 

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-11 Thread Matthias Schwarzott
On Monday 10 July 2006 10:08, Jakub Moc wrote:
 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
  On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 04:36:55AM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten?? 
wrote:
  On Monday 10 July 2006 02:25, Luca Barbato wrote:
  c is simpler. I like it.
 
  Yes, of course if _all wranglers_ respected metadata, instead of
  stopping to herd tag and assigning to that even when a particular
  maintainer is listed.
 
  Actually, this isn't that simple at the moment. There are packages that
  directly list me as the maintainer, but I want bugs for them assigned to
  the herd by default - so that the other folk in the herd can find them
  quickly.
 
  Perhaps this could be alleviated with an explicit assign-to field in
  package metadata? At the same time, it should have an explicit cc-to
  field, for cases where the maintainer is not in the herd.

 Well, that reminds me - just stick [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or whatever else) to
 maintainer field then and put it first, enough of a hint for me :)

Should we then use this metadata-file (maintainer before herd tag):

!DOCTYPE pkgmetadata SYSTEM http://www.gentoo.org/dtd/metadata.dtd;
pkgmetadata
maintainer
email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/email
nameGentoo VDR Project/name
/maintainer

herdmedia-tv/herd
/pkgmetadata

Matthias

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-10 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sun, 9 Jul 2006 19:17:09 +0200
Matthias Schwarzott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 
 As the situation now has changed I would like to discuss this one
 more. Since one week we (hd_brummy and me) have changed our Gentoo
 VDR Project
 (http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/video/vdr/index.xml) to an
 official subproject of desktop/video.
 
 Now the situation is as follows:
 Most packages have historically either 
 a) one of us or
 b) both as a maintainer
 and the herd media-tv as fallback.
 c) The newest ebuilds have herd media-tv and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (projects 
 mail-address) as maintainer.
 
 
 We now think that this should be unified. Our ideal would be having
 the concept of a sub-herd.
 The best realizable alternatives we can think of are:
 c) herd media-tv and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (projects mail-address) as
 maintainer. d) create an own herd vdr.

A package can belong to more than one herd.  So you could create a
media-vdr herd, and have two herd tags in the metadata.xml for the vdr
packages; media-tv and media-vdr (I suggest the media- prefix as it's
not necessarily obvious what vdr means on its own).  If you do this,
make sure there's a maintainer tag.

However (c) seems to be the most sensible approach.

 
 
 What do you think of that?
 
 Zzam
 


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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-10 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis

On 7/10/06, Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 04:36:55AM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten?? wrote:
 On Monday 10 July 2006 02:25, Luca Barbato wrote:
  c is simpler. I like it.
 Yes, of course if _all wranglers_ respected metadata, instead of stopping to
 herd tag and assigning to that even when a particular maintainer is listed.
Actually, this isn't that simple at the moment. There are packages that
directly list me as the maintainer, but I want bugs for them assigned to
the herd by default - so that the other folk in the herd can find them
quickly.

Perhaps this could be alleviated with an explicit assign-to field in
package metadata? At the same time, it should have an explicit cc-to
field, for cases where the maintainer is not in the herd.


My idea would actually be the contrary: that the package is assigned
to its maintainer (who could not be in the herd) and the herd(s) are
CCed. Uven if the maintainer is in the herd, this procedure should be
followed, as it is easier for the maintainer to track down the
package.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-10 Thread Jakub Moc
Robin H. Johnson wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 04:36:55AM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten?? wrote:
 On Monday 10 July 2006 02:25, Luca Barbato wrote:
 c is simpler. I like it.
 Yes, of course if _all wranglers_ respected metadata, instead of stopping to 
 herd tag and assigning to that even when a particular maintainer is listed.
 Actually, this isn't that simple at the moment. There are packages that
 directly list me as the maintainer, but I want bugs for them assigned to
 the herd by default - so that the other folk in the herd can find them
 quickly.
 
 Perhaps this could be alleviated with an explicit assign-to field in
 package metadata? At the same time, it should have an explicit cc-to
 field, for cases where the maintainer is not in the herd.
 

Well, that reminds me - just stick [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or whatever else) to
maintainer field then and put it first, enough of a hint for me :)



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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-09 Thread Matthias Schwarzott
Hi!

As the situation now has changed I would like to discuss this one more.
Since one week we (hd_brummy and me) have changed our Gentoo VDR Project 
(http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/video/vdr/index.xml) to an official 
subproject of desktop/video.

Now the situation is as follows:
Most packages have historically either 
a) one of us or
b) both as a maintainer
and the herd media-tv as fallback.
c) The newest ebuilds have herd media-tv and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (projects 
mail-address) as maintainer.


We now think that this should be unified. Our ideal would be having the 
concept of a sub-herd.
The best realizable alternatives we can think of are:
c) herd media-tv and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (projects mail-address) as maintainer.
d) create an own herd vdr.


What do you think of that?

Zzam

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
 What do you think of that?

c is simpler. I like it.

lu

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-09 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 10 July 2006 02:25, Luca Barbato wrote:
 c is simpler. I like it.
Yes, of course if _all wranglers_ respected metadata, instead of stopping to 
herd tag and assigning to that even when a particular maintainer is listed.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-09 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 04:36:55AM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten?? wrote:
 On Monday 10 July 2006 02:25, Luca Barbato wrote:
  c is simpler. I like it.
 Yes, of course if _all wranglers_ respected metadata, instead of stopping to 
 herd tag and assigning to that even when a particular maintainer is listed.
Actually, this isn't that simple at the moment. There are packages that
directly list me as the maintainer, but I want bugs for them assigned to
the herd by default - so that the other folk in the herd can find them
quickly.

Perhaps this could be alleviated with an explicit assign-to field in
package metadata? At the same time, it should have an explicit cc-to
field, for cases where the maintainer is not in the herd.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr

2006-05-17 Thread Ned Ludd
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 18:22 +0200, Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I propose the creation of a new herd - vdr.
 
 It will combine the program media-video/vdr, its plugins (87 plugins now in 
 portage under media-plugins), some programs and some supplementary ebuilds 
 (scripts ...).

You are not going to propose to start moving stuff around next are you?

 Most of the ebuilds are at the moment member of media-tv herd.

Whats wrong with the existing herd?

 At the beginning hd_brummy and I are going to care about this herd.
 If there are other developers out there who want to help, please let us know.
 
 
 
 VDR is an app for watching and recording digital television (dvb/atsc). It 
 can 
 be extended with plugins to not only support dvb input and hardware mpeg2 
 output.

media-tv seems like the right place.

 vdr supports hardware-wakeup for recording timers, remotes with lirc, OSD, 
 teletext/subtitles, EPG (electronic program guide) with various different 
 views, burning dvds from recordings, some OSD games, viewing divx files,
 listening mp3s ...
 There are addons to scan for advertisments after a recording 
 
 
 http://www.linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/index.php/Main_Page
 
 Matthias
 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr

2006-05-17 Thread Simon Stelling

Ned Ludd wrote:

Whats wrong with the existing herd?


Maybe the question should rather be:
'Will it allow you to manage the vdr-related packages and it's bugs 
easier and more efficient than before?'



media-tv seems like the right place.


I'd say that heavily depends on the answer of the question above.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr

2006-05-17 Thread Simon Stelling

Simon Stelling wrote:
'Will it allow you to manage the vdr-related packages and it's bugs 

s/it's/its/

*sigh*

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