Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng logrotate question
Ben Maas wrote: dailty dafault I apologize for all the marbles in mouth! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng logrotate question
Hehe, you beat me to it on the syslog-ng stuff, my example writing took to long :-) Good work! Covington, Chris wrote: Hopefully this will take care of it. Now the original question: How can I make sure the 'weekly' logrotate happens on Sunday morning and not Monday, Tuesday, etc.? From the logrotate man page: *weekly* Log files are rotated if the current weekday is less then the weekday of the last rotation or if more then a week has passed since the last rotation. This is normally the same as rotating logs on the first day of the week, but it works better if logrotate is not run every night. So, one option would be to move the logrotate.cron script to cron.weekly, but since that runs on Saturday instead of Sunday you'd either have to change when cron.weekly runs (the rm lines in crontab) or do like that original example. *shrug* -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure
First off, I'll agree that the management structure document itself is rather buried. I found it (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/management-structure.xml) because I knew it was assigned a GLEP (http://glep.gentoo.org), but that wouldn't be real obvious to someone new to the project. That said Sergey, I'm confused because I'm still not sure what you want out of this distro. What are your reasons for looking for an alternative to Debian? I think its important to judge any project on what they present themselves to stand for. Lets compare. Debian was begun in August 1993 by Ian Murdock, as a new distribution which would be made openly, in the spirit of Linux and GNU. Debian was meant to be carefully and conscientiously put together, and to be maintained and supported with similar care. -- http://www.debian.org/intro/about We produce Gentoo Linux, a special flavor of Linux that can be automatically optimized and customized for just about any application or need. Extreme performance, configurability and a top-notch user and developer community are all hallmarks of the Gentoo experience. -- http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml The Gentoo philosophy, in a paragraph, is this. Every user has work they need to do. The goal of Gentoo is to design tools and systems that allow a user to do their work pleasantly and efficiently as possible, as they see fit. -- http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/philosophy.xml On Wednesday 19 November 2003 04:58 pm, Sergey V. Spiridonov wrote: A lot of users tend to ignore GNU philosophy and interpret _free_ software as in free beer, not as in freedom. The philosophy link on the website makes it quite clear that Gentoo is about getting things done. It calls for neither the crushing of the prolitariat nor a strict mindless adherance to the word of God Emperor Richard M Stallman. It states (in italics even): The most fundamental issue is designing a technology that allows us and others to do what they want to do, without restriction. That sounds like the definition of free as in freedom to me. To me, Gentoo is about giving you the tools to build it your way. Gentoo is about getting work done, the way you like getting it done. The social contract says Gentoo Linux is and will remain Free Software. That may be free as in beer but that was put there as a reassurance that there is not an intention to cut and run. But even more important than the social contract is the fact that all the code is GPL'd. If Daniel wants to go commercial, fine. There will be a fork and we'll continue on. The management structure for Debian has a carefully organized structure. Both Gentoo's management structure and tools have evolved organically as they have needed to. In fact the whole Gentoo portage system is a more organic approach. New ebuilds are introduced into the system when someone needs a package, and die when no one cares. There are no formal releases, just an ever changing, improving system. The users and developers are used to this. Users don't know (or care) what the procedures are to change the social contract is because they haven't had to worry about it! If the centrally planned way is really important to you, stick with Debian. But if you're willing to help evolve Gentoo, download the ISOs and give it a try. If it works for you, great! Welcome aboard! Please remember however that Gentoo is a project, not a movement. -- Ben Maas - Technology Architect Open Technology Systems, LLC --- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.open-techsys.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DeCSS: safe to emerge?
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 07:41 pm, Keith Dart wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 16:19, Sumeet Singh Parmar wrote: ( It was in HTML, I loathe M$ bloat-shit) Fellers, Is DeCSS ok to emerge or what's the deal? Go ahead and emerge it. I did, and my machine did not blow up. Yeah, but did the black helicopters (or subpeonas) come yet? ;-) /me puts on his tin foil hat and begins the emerge. -- Ben Maas - Technology Architect Open Technology Systems, LLC --- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.open-techsys.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DeCSS: safe to emerge?
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 07:52 pm, Sumeet Singh Parmar wrote: I meant, FBI won't be knocking on my door if I emerged DeCSS? I forget what is the status of that whole we'll-arrest-dvd-on-linux-evil-doers? Try USE=-subpeona, I'm sure that will take care of it ;-) -- Ben Maas - Technology Architect Open Technology Systems, LLC --- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.open-techsys.com Phone: 952.448.3121 Fax: 952.448.4944 Cell: 612.743.3674 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cannot mount root filesystem read/write
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 08:35 pm, Ian Truelsen wrote: point, run fsck and am again assured that /dev/hda3 is clean. I check /etc/mtab and /dev/ROOT is listed as mounted at / and in rw mode. However, Try changing the / mount point in /etc/fstab from /dev/ROOT to /dev/hda3. -- Ben Maas - Technology Architect Open Technology Systems, LLC --- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.open-techsys.com Phone: 952.448.3121 Fax: 952.448.4944 Cell: 612.743.3674 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo box hung - how to debug?
On Monday 27 October 2003 12:12 pm, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm thinking that this may be due to something emerged in the last week of so. How can I check what I've emerged since Oct. 1st? Check /var/log/emerge.log -- Ben Maas - Technology Architect Open Technology Systems, LLC --- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.open-techsys.com Phone: 952.448.3121 Fax: 952.448.4944 Cell: 612.743.3674 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Questions...
Sorry, this mail appearently bounced last night because I sent using my work account. Alias now activated! Anways. On Wednesday 22 October 2003 06:39 pm, Phil Barnett wrote: 1. I used to run an nvidia card in my machine, but had to give it up for a gaming machine. Now I have a Matrox G-450. I simply cannot get glx to work. In fact, I removed the nvidia modules and they want to come back. How do I find out what is calling them in? I noticed when I emerged xfree again, it switched to the nvidia glx drivers. This is just plain wrong. How do I stop it from doing that and make it see that I now have a Matrox card? You might need to do a: opengl-update xfree That should reset things back to the XFree86 GLX modules instead of the nVidia ones. 2. I recently got a 128 meg thumb drive. When I plug it in, I can see it in /proc/bus/usb/devices, but I can not find a mount point for it. I have scsi-emulation running for ide. Do I need to do something special to get the scsi modules to mount the usb devices? In my kernel config I have the following selected as modules: *** Under SCSI support *** CONFIG_SCSI SCSI Support CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD SCSI disk support CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR SCSI CD-ROM support CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG SCSI generic support *** Under USB support *** CONFIG_USB Support for USB CONFIG_USB_STORAGE USB Mass Storage support .and of course the appropriate USB host controller(s) which it sounds like you already have. I don't have *any* low level SCSI drivers selected. Also, I don't believe I have the SCSI emulation for IDE set. Once you have all that make sure you've installed and started the hotplug package. If not, do the following: emerge hotplug /sbin/depscan.sh rc-update add hotplug default /etc/init.d/hotplug start This setup allows me to use, my pendrive, external hard drive, and external CD-R/RW drive. They all show up as SCSI devices. For example, my pendrive is /dev/sdb. So to mount it I type: mkdir ~/keychain mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 ~/keychain As you can see I've formatted part of mine as a MS-DOS drive so Windows machines will recognize it as well. I also have a second encrypted partition. -- Ben Maas - Technology Architect Open Technology Systems, LLC --- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.open-techsys.com Phone: 952.448.3121 Fax: 952.448.4944 Cell: 612.743.3674 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
