Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for another machine?
Hi, You want to do a complete install? I'd make a directory /pentium-machine, boot from the CD, mount the disk at /mount/gentoo and furtheron do everything due to a normal install - just for /mnt/gentoo/pentium-machine. Then I'd chroot to /mnt/gentoo/pentium-machine and finish the install with the environment fiddling former mentioned. Exit chroot, make a backup of /mnt/gentoo/pentium-machine and restore this backup to the Pentium. That should be all you need. Regards Frank On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 20:11, POLAX wrote: I would like to use my Pentium 3 (1GHz) to compile gentoo for my Pentium Classic (200MHz). How does this work? Won't there be problems with misdetecting the processor type in /mnt/gentoo/proc as well use when using uname in the chrooted environment? Or does the CHOST setting do some hacks to get around this? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Just want a Point in the right direction.
Hi, Helgi said it (nearly) all. You should add something to the EXTRAVERSIONvariable in the main makefile for the kernel to save the modules of your old one. Regards Frank On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 11:01, Helgi Örn Helgason wrote: On 2003-12-08, FX wrote: I saw this on a post a while ago. But i haven't found much in the archive. You didn't find this?: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-kernel.xml What i am looking for is how to test a new kernel But leaving the one i have in place. So if it does get hosed i am not S.O.L a link to an archive will do great. You can always have several different kernels installed and configure your bootloader so that you can choose which one to boot from. Cheers, /HÖ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Installation of snort
Hi all, I had installed snort some weeks ago without any problem. Yesterday I renoved the thing to emerge it oncemore. I'm ending up with: (I'm unmerging/emerging libnet AND snort using the last portage tree) checking for libnet.h... no ERROR! Libnet header not found, go get it from http://www.packetfactory.net/projects/libnet/ or use the --with-libnet-* options, if you have it installed in unusual place Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) net-analyzer/snort-2.0.0 to / md5 src_uri ;-) snort-2.0.0.tar.gz Is this a fault in libnet, in snort, in the dependencies? Any hint would be very apreciated. Thanks in advance Frank -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] timidity oss support
;o) oss ? On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 12:00, Matthieu Amiguet wrote: I just emerged timidity++ with the following USE variable: USE=X gtk tetex samba ldap -kde -qt -gnome -alsa -oggvorbis ... and now: $ timidity -Od somefile.mid Playmode `d' is not compiled in. # etcat -u timidity [ Colour Code : set unset ] [ Legend : (U) Col 1 - Current USE flags] [ : (I) Col 2 - Installed With USE flags ] U I [ Found these USE variables in : media-sound/timidity++-2.12.0 ] - - nas : Adds support for network audio sound - - esd : Adds support for media-sound/esound (Enlightened Sound Daemon) + + motif : Adds motif support (virtual/motif) + + X : Adds support for XFree86 + + gtk : Adds support for x11-libs/gtk+ (The GIMP Toolkit) - - oggvorbis : Adds support for the OggVorbis audio encoding - - tcltk : Support for Tcl and/or Tk + + slang : Adds support for the slang text display library (it's like ncurses, but different) - - alsa : Adds support for media-libs/alsa-lib (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture) What USE flag should I activate to have oss support in timidity? Matthieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package Specific Optimizations?
Hi Spider, this all makes some sense - of course ;), but - me too - wondered about, how to build (for instance) gimp with tiff support but imagick without (I know, this is a stupid example.), without shooting myself in the foot during the next ``emerge -u world''. Maybe it would be good, to have a possibility of customizing the ebuilds. Just a thought Frank On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 11:44, Spider wrote: begin quote On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:19:09 -0800 (PST) POLAX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are package optimizations specific to a particular package specified? Easy. they aren't. Unless you do it in the commandline, portage doesn't do it. Some packages wipe all CFLAGS or ignore them completely because they break with all except -O2 , but we try to do as little as possible. There are some package/flag combinations that don't work (-mno-push-args-maccumulate-outgoing-args -mno-align-stringops for reiserfstools). Have these all been tested and accounted for? This made me laugh, which is quite strange cause I'm at home with severe headache and fever. NO. We -cannot- test the compile flags. In fact most developers simply invalidate bugs from people with CFLAGS above the normal. Won't Even Touch It until you rebuild your whole dependency-tree with less CFLAGS. If not how can I specify different flags for different packages? Commandline. CFLAGS=-march=i386 -mcpu=i686 -O2 -pipe emerge reiserfstools Simple: by adding insane CFLAGS you shoot yourself into nomansland, and won't get support. //Spider -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] timidity oss support
Hi Matthieu, from http://www.timidity.jp/doc/options.html i took: -OdOutputs via audio device (default) I don't have timidity, but seems, this hasn't anything to do with oss. A quick look at your output from ``etcat'' says me that you haven't sound support at all (no alsa, nor OggVorbis, nor esd). Maybe you should try that. Regards Frank On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 12:31, Matthieu Amiguet wrote: Just tried it in case etcat had forgotten to mention it... But it doesn't work. Matthieu ;o) oss ? What USE flag should I activate to have oss support in timidity? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Alsa via oss question
Hi all, The thread from Matthieu brought me to this. What use flags should I use to enable oss AND the alsa oss compatibility layer? Is this possible at all (the alsa guide says to compile oss support without any oss driver into the kernel)? I plan to build Rosegarden and remember, that this piece don't work with the alsa oss layer. If an app supports both - which one woll be used? Thanks in advance Frank -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package Specific Optimizations?
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 13:06, Patrick Börjesson wrote: this all makes some sense - of course ;), but - me too - wondered about, how to build (for instance) gimp with tiff support but imagick without(I know, this is a stupid example.), without shooting myself in the foot during the next ``emerge -u world''. Maybe it would be good, to have a possibility of customizing the ebuilds. Looking for something like this? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13616 Patrick Börjesson That's exactly what I ment :oD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] loading modules at boot
HI, AFAIK the files /etc/modules.autoload.d/* contain the modules to load, if the system boots with one of the kernels mentioned there. I.E. the modules loaded at boot time. Hope this helps Frank On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 13:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've never been clear re the difference between loading a kernel module during a session loading it at boot time. 'modprobe modulename' loads it during a session AFAIK, but how do i ensure it gets loaded the next time i boot ? i've looked thro' various man pages checked in /etc , but it's not clear. the specific question is getting CD-writing to work. i've just got it working this session after adding 'append hdc=ide-scsi' to the stanza in lilo.conf , but after a reboot (due to a separate problem now resolved) i had to reissue the command 'modprobe ide-scsi'. should i add 'ide-scsi' to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4 ? what is the proper command or procedure to get a module loaded at boot time ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa via oss question
Hi too, ;o)) From http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml: ... 2. Installation Gentoo USE flags To compile programs with ALSA-support, be sure to add alsa to your USE-variable. However, several tools don't support alsa yet, and require OSS. ALSA provides OSS-emulation if you define oss in your USE-variable before you start. ... Woops, andt thus answered my own question. Only hope that Rosegarden works with OSS-emulation and that the OSS-emulation works if there is more than only OSS (without the drivers) enabled in the kernel. Two years or so back Rosegarden complained to not find oss when there was alsa OSS-emulation only. On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 14:37, Fabien Fivaz wrote: Hi, Alsa does not have any flags. You have to emerge the alsa, alsa-lib, alsa-utils and finaly alsa-oss, which will install the oss compatibility layer. This way of doing works fine on my computer. Afterwards I installed Jack and Ardour. They all do well. Best wishes, Fabien Frank Schäfer wrote: Hi all, The thread from Matthieu brought me to this. What use flags should I use to enable oss AND the alsa oss compatibility layer? Is this possible at all (the alsa guide says to compile oss support without any oss driver into the kernel)? I plan to build Rosegarden and remember, that this piece don't work with the alsa oss layer. If an app supports both - which one woll be used? Thanks in advance Frank -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] User input during boot, how to catch input
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 01:01, SN wrote: You have a laptop probably, this is a weekly topic... The idea is, create different runlevels for including/excluding network, then configure grub/lilo to select the correct runlevel. Ah that was just an example, actually I want to do something more complex and I need userinput for it. In the init script which needs the input: put a ``read'' command at the point u need the input. (if your init scripts are sh/bash) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Undocumented USE flags
Hi all, I'm trying to optimize the USE flags for my workstation. I did an: ``emerge -Depv world'' to see which USE flags should be set to fit my needs. For some packages i see USE possibilities, which aren't documented at http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml Where can I find documentation for these flags. Btw.: Is there a possibility to only download all the packages reported by ``emerge -p'' and then (somewhen) do the actually ``emerge -De'' (?) offline? Thanks for your time Frank -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Finding all suid binaries.
Hi Tom, I tried `find / -perm +7000`, is that the right kind of thing? The 7000 was a guess, I've never really worked out how the bits in that 4th digit are supposed to go. 7000 would be suid, gid, sticky (see man chmod) Last question... I think it was Mandrake that I was using when I noticed that the 'ls' command printed suid binaries in a nice obvious red colour, at least when you were root. Does anyone know how I could turn that feature on? It seems like a nice idea. Perhaps ``man dircolors'' or ``man dir_colors'' could help. Regards Frank -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Undocumented USE flags
Thanks a lot. In /etc/make.conf is written: # The available list of use flags with descriptions is in your portage tree. # Use 'less' to view them: -- less /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc -- I assumed, that the ling on the gentoo website is more up to date (I don't let etc-update override my make.conf) Not at all; for the gatos or sdk flags from xfree-4.3.0 or the mozxmlterm flag from mozilla aren't described neither on the web nor in use.desc :( They seem to be package specific. Now where to put them, make.conf, ebuild ...? Btw.: Is there a possibility to only download all the packages reported by ``emerge -p'' and then (somewhen) do the actually ``emerge -De'' (?) offline? energe -f or --fetchonly Already done this ``emerge -Def'' :) Thanks onesmore Frank -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Undocumented USE flags
Ok, found them in the ebuilds. Mostly not commented. :( Frank -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Threads closed in evolution
Hi Paulo, AFAIK this isn't implemented. Regards Frank On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 10:03, Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos wrote: Hi all, Is there a way to configure evolution to see the mail in a thread like view but with the threads closed? Best regards, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is /var full?
Hi,
/var/tmp/{distfiles,portage,portage-pkg} ?
You can delete this.
Regards
Frank
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 11:51, Aaron Walker wrote:
I just installed gentoo for the first time earlier this week. Got
everything up and running perfectly. I am very impressed. Anyways... I
ran 'emerge openoffice' last night before I left for work, and when I
came home there was an error. I went to emerge another package
(evolution) and immediatly got another error. Upon rebooting I noticed
somewhere it said device is full, so I ran df and noticed that the 2GB
/var partition was full and I am assuming that is the reason I cannot
run emerge successfully. Why is /var full already? I thought 2GB would
be overkill. Was I wrong? What can I do to clean it out? Should I make
a larger partition for /var?
Thanks,
Aaron
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u system not possible at the moment?
Hi, I had the same problem today. Maybe the gentooers working on a new upgrade or so. This happens from time to time. I circumvented this by: # emerge -i app-editors/vim-6.2-r3 # emerge -u world U can do system if u want - of course. Ceers Frank On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 13:25, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote: Hi, having not made an update for ~4 weeks I wanted to run it now, so I did this: 1. emerge sync - this went fine, but then told me I should update portage now, ok so 2. emerge --update portage - went fine too, no problems no complaints, so next was 3. emerge --update world - strange enough this did not bring me any new updates, so I made a 4. emerge --update system - HERE comes trouble: it tries and tries but does not suceed: the servers would either tell it No such file `vim-6.2.098-patches.tar.bz2´. or they would say No such directory `mirrors/gentoo/distfiles´. and it tries a LOT of servers and, no, I did not mainpulate the servers list after my last (successful) update. So what might go wrong here, how can I proceed? TIA, Karl-Heinz -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to backout devfs?
Hi, this howto is veryveryvery short. 1. don't compile devfs in the kernel 2. don't start devfsd 3. run /sbin/MAKEDEV, to create all the devices you need ... but why the hick do you want to do this? Regrads Frank On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 02:59, Jerry McBride wrote: Has anyone here backed out devfs successfully? If so, how about a short how-too? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to backout devfs?
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 11:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:04:33AM +0100, Frank Schäfer wrote: Hi, this howto is veryveryvery short. 1. don't compile devfs in the kernel 2. don't start devfsd 3. run /sbin/MAKEDEV, to create all the devices you need ... but why the hick do you want to do this? Because devfs is been removed from future kernels? hmmm, that's new to me. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: How many of you are 100% Linux?
Hi guys, just a thought ... what about fighting this flamewar on IRC for instance. Gentoo HAS some IRC channels, I'm sure. It's annoying delete all this OT stuff from my list archive. Regards Frank Btw: Me: At home RedHat8, Gentoo - at work Redhat, Gentoo, Sloaris, SCO and some dedicated firewalls. Cant tell abnything about the percentage. Sure, some WindBlows too for some customers. Something about pro soft. There definitively is a lotalotalot out there, much is commercial, but for Linux available too. See SGI, Sun, IBM, and so on. ... but I'll nobody blame-shame if s/he's using the soft s/he's familiar with. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] runat ?
man at, man batch Regards Frank On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 15:46, raptor wrote: someone to know console command so that I can run wget processes at specified time ... I need something easy..f.e. runat -t 02:00 wget -c .. i mean not putting stuff in crontab -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] runat ?
Why the hell do you want to be root to use crontab BTW: If there is something slow with this it's the program you start. crontab doesn't anything else than start something. Regards Frank On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 16:02, raptor wrote: What's wrong with crontab ? nothing wrong ! it is slow if u just want to add something fast and the syntax is a little cumbrestone... And u have to be root to do it, and i dont want to run command every day but just once..etc.. :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
