Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from John Lowelljohnlowell@ameritech.net on the Digest

2005-04-06 Thread Philip Webb
050405 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 050405 Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 maybe one should stop blaming the user
 and consider that X11 is crying for a good UI for configuration.
 I hear Mandrake have quite a nice GUI configuration tool these days.

IIRC when i installed Gentoo in my newly-built box in 2003,
i used the X config file created by Mandrake from my 2000 box,
as i use the same monitor for both machines.

Gentoo is not for beginners, but it doesn't hurt to have good tools
 sometimes that includes a GUI interface, eg configuring Xscreensaver.
even Vim is easier to use in the Gvim version, at least for me.

there's no harm in being a fanatic, if you know when to stop (grin).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Config Files Update?

2005-03-28 Thread Philip Webb
050329 AJ Spagnoletti wrote:
 I recently just finished a stage 2 installation of gentoo
 and im still trying to work the bugs out.

normal: once you get it set up the way you want, you'll love it (smile).

 I emerged KDE and at the end of the emerge it said
 that 10 config files need to be updated.
 Is this something that has to be done manually
 or is there a command that will auto update them for me?

use 'etc-update', but first have a look at  /etc/etc-update.conf ,
which allows you to choose your diff manager  editor: i recommend Gvim.

 I am still new to gentoo and linux so any help is greatly appreciated.

this is a do-it-yourself distro, but this list is usually very helpful.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which FEATURES do you use?

2005-03-28 Thread Philip Webb
050329 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:25:04 -0800 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you guys find out about the ones that aren't in make.conf.example
 by looking at the source?  Google isn't coming up with much.
 man make.conf

that's neither original nor helpful.  Grant would do better to read

  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2

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Re: [gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-27 Thread Philip Webb
050327 Harry Putnam wrote:
 Being a new user, I'm wanting to get an overview
 of what an average gentooer might do or need to do over a 6mnth period.

it will take a few weeks to get your system how you want it,
but once you've done that, you never need to re-install.
one of the beauties of Gentoo is that you have full control
over how close you want to be to the bleeding edge or utterly reliable:
what you update  when you do it is entirely upto you.

i never -- as in never -- do 'emerge world' except with '-Dup' (below).
i made a list of all the pkgs i have installed with 'qpkg -I',
to which i've added dates of installation  a few notes: 1st few lines:

041031 app-admin/fam-2.7.0-r2 [for kdelibs]
  W 040425 app-admin/gkrellm-2.1.28-r1 [invoke 'gkrellm2']
  W 040314 app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.1-r10 [was system: PP logger]
  S 050226 app-arch/bzip2-1.0.2-r5
041031 app-arch/cabextract-1.1 [for xfree]
  S 050205 app-arch/cpio-2.6-r1
  S 050108 app-arch/gzip-1.3.5-r5
041009 app-arch/ncompress-4.2.4-r1 [for tar: qpkg ~th]

'S' is system, 'W' is world  ' ' is a pkg installed to support another.

every weekend, i do 'esync', which updates the Portage tree in my machine,
updates the 'esearch' database  lists all pkgs which have changed,
hiliting in color those which i have installed
(you need to emerge the pkg 'esearch' to get 'esync').
then i do 'emerge -Dup world' to get another view of what to update,
 decide which pkgs to actually update, testing with 'emerge -pv pkg'.
i edit my list of installed pkgs as i do the emerges.

a rule of thumb is to update if you've seen a security alert
-- tho' some may not affect your machine,
eg a local exploit on a single-user desktop --
or if the 1st or 2nd numbers in the pkg name have gone up.

but it's all upto you  that's part of the beauty of Gentoo ... (smile)

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