Re: Re: [gentoo-user] hotplug and module loading

2003-09-17 Thread Tom St Denis
Um your message is not a valid [normal] email


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:-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Barry MacMahon/Chiltern is out of the office.

2003-09-17 Thread Tom St Denis

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 I will be out of the office starting  18-09-2003 and will not return until
 22-09-2003.

 I will respond to your message when I return on Tuesday 18th

This guy is brilliant.

Hey moderators can you just bounce the dude off the list until 22-09?  Or
are a bazillion messages appropriate?

Tom


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[gentoo-user] HEY MODERATORS: Re: [gentoo-user] Barry MacMahon/Chiltern is out of the office.

2003-09-17 Thread Tom St Denis
Remove this smart person already!

And to Barry when you get back from your trip, smarten the heck up!
Autoresponders to mailing lists... very quick!

Tom

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 I will be out of the office starting  18-09-2003 and will not return until
 22-09-2003.

 I will respond to your message when I return on Tuesday 18th


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Re: [gentoo-user] XFree86/KDE Problems

2003-09-16 Thread Tom St Denis

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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] XFree86/KDE Problems


 On Wednesday 17 September 2003 01:10, Tom St.Denis wrote:
  On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:04:48 -0400
 
Tom St.Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Perhaps, try emerging gpm to see if the mouse works on
  console. Or just cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse
  around. ;-)
 
  Ok wierd.  I ram
 
  gpm -m /dev/mouse
 
  and my keyboard locked up.  so maybe when USB is kicked in
  it kills hardware?  Knoppix works [I tried it recently]
  with all it's USB mouse/PS2 keyboard glory [using
  2.4.21-xfs from knoppix]

 Well then, you've isolated the problem (further). Some sort of conflict
 between usb and ps2.

  So maybe the problem is actually in a recent USB tools
  update?

 There were updates to usbutils on the 7th and 8th of this month, so you
can
 try downgrading it. Have you tried acpi=off and such options to the
kernel?

Sorry much too late.  I have work todo so I sadly moved back to WinXP [arrg]
for the time being.  Thanks anyways.

For what it's worth I had -r1 of usbutils installed [so did my bro] which is
older than this month [by default emerge usbutils will get -r1].

My setup was fairly typical:

AMD XP 2400+
ASUS A7V333 Motherboard
USB Mouse [Microsoft IntelliMouse]
PS2 Keyboard [104-key fairly standard thingy]
IDE hard disk, IDE cdrom [LG combo]
CMPCI audio
BTTV tv tuner
GeForce Ti200 Video Card

In my most recent build with  2.4.20-r7 [gentoo-sources], 2.4.20 [vanilla]
and 2.4.22 all of the devices seemed to load correctly.  The trouble was as
soon as I tried to use the mouse the keyboard controller halted.  The
keyboard kept buffering keys though [which was wierd].

I had installed Gentoo 1.4 in July and it worked perfectly.  So the break is
in one of the usb related tools/drivers merged in since I last installed.
I've tried a 1.4 released CD [athlon-xp] and a x86-1.4 [sept 9th] basic
bootstrap build.  Both failed.

Anyways, I have school work todo and a book to write so I have to just use
WinXP to get work done [no way!]

Tom


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Re: [gentoo-user] hotplug and module loading

2003-09-16 Thread Tom St Denis
Top-posting cuz your post came as an attachment???

Ya you have to emerge hotplug then rc-update add it to the default run level
before building the kernel [well it doesn't matter but might as well follow
the instructions].  You have to add hotplug support to your kernel
configuration.

If all goes well the hotplug script will automatically load all of your
devices for you at boot time.  It worked for me when I last built in July.
Everything such as my ethernet, sound, tv tuner, scanner, mouse, etc... was
detected.  Recently though I have found that the USB support is broken on my
box.  I'm not nix-pro enough to figure out why it doesn't work.

For the most part hotplug is well worth it.  Saves much time.

Tom
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I just recently looked over the new 1.4 install instructions, very nice
job by the way. I noticed that hotplug is used by default in the install
now.  I have never used hotplug but it seems interesting, if I
understand correctly I can build my kernel as usual, enable the modules
that I want/need make the kernel and set hotplug to run in the default
runtime and have hotplug load all the modules that I need when I need
them without me having to put them in /etc/modules.autoload (BTW when
did /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-version replace
/etc/modules.autoload...I just realized this today.)?  I know that was a
long sentence but I'm trying to understand hotplug and it sounds really
interesting.  If someone could correct me or clarify that what I think
is true then I definitely have some kernel rebuilding in my near
future.  Thanks


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