Re: [gentoo-user] DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 28 August 2003 08:04, Owen Gunden wrote: Yes unstable has fairly up-to-date packages, but when as I understand it unstable doesn't get security updates right away (please correct if wrong). This is a problem for a server, or just about any machine on a LAN. As far as I know the security updates are all in debian unstable. The word unstable implies other reasons not to use it on your server I wouldn't know, because I don't. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Th3+m4+n6JcwFSURAlKQAJ0ZnupPICxEXZ29T3IZmjjgumQ2SQCeOlLp X1DWSquTOp7Mkzmd+9uN9aA= =D4Xb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] software patents
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 28 August 2003 08:09, Owen Gunden wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 03:57:52AM -0300, Norberto BENSA wrote: Please, don't. If you have any concerns with software patents, write to your representatives and ask them to review copyright laws. You act as though the gentoo home page is an inappropriate page to let people know what's going on with software patent law. Software patent law implemented poorly could easily result in projects such as gentoo being outlawed. A threat this serious certainly deserves some consideration by the gentoo community. This could be a nice thread to flame about gentoo being a distribution and community that only cares about technology, not giving any thought to the political and sociological issues involved, couldn't it? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Th7qm4+n6JcwFSURAht/AJ4240ZXvzLea1zmNreOhzS/SxLdxwCaA1SU yaax8AQ3seOPErBWw47G+J8= =TLBd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 14 August 2003 23:13, Tom Wesley wrote: Hi all, Not sure if this should be here, or -devel, so I post here to not annoy too many people. Does Gentoo publish it's donation incomes anywhere? A disclosure of donation data would really appease that negative impression I have of gentoo's business plans and concept recently. My scepticism started when I heard about the zynot fork episode. I'd appreciate to be pointed to facts that would make me not only fall into love with the technology it provides but also gentoo as a business model inspiring confidence and respect. - - ueberlamer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/PA6vm4+n6JcwFSURAgA+AKCxh8t/r9LWCWO9J5x21u9Swbr3WQCfRgo2 9K90lqKfiKy4iVMKupcYRWQ= =raQo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Windows to linux... What was that app?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 02 July 2003 00:06, MooktaKiNG wrote: With more and more people using linux, you will have more and more idiots using linux - as root. Check IRC for evidence. And of course you do not have those strange /dev/dsp and cdrecord problems as root!!!1! Regards, Jens Thats mostly becuase those using root are usually looking for help and asking questions in IRC. while they are in the middle of install or post install. I sometimes do that. But i usually use it for like 10-20min. I logout after i found the answar etc. The least one should do, if not adding a normal user before IRCing, is setting the user name to something other than root. Like with irssi: /set user_name blabla But of course that only keeps the channel from cheering root has landed..., it doesn't really solve any problems. - - ueberlamer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/A0IRm4+n6JcwFSURArLWAJ49oIq/I/tUrsq4/e58WaK8YfG8dACcD4f+ bCTFFjIPvYLXeMtJ+AXvjfw= =RZoF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Windows to linux... What was that app?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 01 July 2003 05:04, Richard Kilgore wrote: [snip] Obviously I'm having some fun here, and exaggerating Windows shortcomings and avoiding Linux shortcomings, but in my experience, it is simply NOT the case that Linux is harder to use. It's just not what everyone is used to in this particular country. Yet! - richard I was visiting a (german) police station a few weeks ago. They use GNU/Linux with the windowmaker WM, I guess SuSE is their flavor. I asked the fifty-something-year-old officer if there where problems regarding usability and the GUI. He said No, there are no problems, it is just like any computer should be. I am sure he didn't have to install it by himself, but there seem to be no problems with everyday use of Linux in german police stations. I think that's cool. Police officers are not geeks in general... - - ueberlamer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/AV2Qm4+n6JcwFSURAi3SAKCytJVPNAFLCECCUIlGlWig5ue7uwCgkYAr xoianFjqypUXhVaT2H16bwU= =8YmP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fork of Gentoo?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 26 June 2003 20:36, Brenden Walker wrote: A couple of thoughts regarding the recent fork: Did the person that forked fork it because he wasn't going to be making any money from Gentoo? That's the impression I'm getting from all of this. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Not from what I can tell, he seemed to think that Gentoo was trying to keep him from making money. Now, if that's the case, what's to stop this Zynot guy from acting the same as Daniel Robbins? Well, from what I've read so far.. Zynot has incorporate as a not for profit organization, as such it must abide by it's Bylaws.. Seems a bit more officially organized. Of course, I've not seen any proof of anything ;-) Reading his story about the dispute he had with Daniel Robbins it seems like he wants to govern his new distro in a rather similar way: Something like a director, which of course will be him, a board of seven other people, and so on. I can't see that big difference except that he promises not to be that kind of an asshole he says DRobbins would have been. An interesting read anyway. I will follow the process of Gentoo's organisational restructuring more closely, and will be watching out for potential tensions in the community and how they are being solved. - - ueberlamer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+/BRrm4+n6JcwFSURAqVTAJ9tCeVD20OJWnZg/JpftuR3OEmRqQCfST0m USO31jDrdcmFYmTSRvuggwg= =EC8r -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo and Laptop?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 26 June 2003 11:11, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: I always keep forgetting that journaling filesystem constantly on the disk, but where can i enable CPU Frequency Scaling in the kernel, i have 2.4.20, and dit not saw it with makemenuconfig. Using cpufreqd would be another option. - - ueberlamer Patrick On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:23:43 +0200 Jonathan C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: The only problem i have with linux on a laptop is the battery life time!!. It seems always shorter than with windows. Of course, if you install a journaling filesystem (ext3 or reiserfs) since those kind of fs write constantly on the disk, it shortens battery life (FAT and NTFS do not have a journal). When I reverted back to ext2 on both of my laptops, I measured that battery life was on average the same. I might add that you might want to configure CPU Frequency Scaling in the kernel since it enables Linux to shut down parts of the CPU when they are are not needed. Saves battery too. snip -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE++6l1m4+n6JcwFSURAppbAJ9PeVs4Y1xD6CmnkKNPkXwFtOwNoQCfTHkq 5hrjrR8SyvMDo519NMDLPNU= =tQlq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What do you like best on Gentoo?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 24 June 2003 10:10, Gwendolyn van der Linden wrote: [snip] What do you like best on Gentoo? What would you tell/show them? 1. Gentoo gives the power of LFS, but with a lot less hassle. Do an LFS once in your life, for educational purposes, and then switch to Gentoo to keep your sanity. 2. Gentoo has a great community. You could show your audience the Gentoo website, the mailing lists and the forums. And don't forget #gentoo on irc.freenode.net . I was amazed when I found irssi being available from the live CD during installation. Three virtual consoles: One for the chroot install stuff, one for the docs and one for asking questions in the IRC channel. That should show how easy it is to set up a gentoo box. - - ueberlamer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE++B7dm4+n6JcwFSURAveBAJ4hFCd2HqkQZL2SOHHPeZvU4vE7hQCgwPXg sQSyQUfCXkXe1NVvQ9SZ+z4= =rPsb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
