RE: [gentoo-user] Freeze on Emerge Compile

2003-10-05 Thread Robert F Donnelly


> -Original Message-
> From: Robert F Donnelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:48 AM
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> Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Freeze on Emerge Compile
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark Huson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 5:02 AM
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> > Subject: [gentoo-user] Freeze on Emerge Compile
> >
> > I am having a problem where my computer will freeze during long
> compiles.
> > The
> > computer works fine every other time and i have never had a problem with
> > it.
> > I have tried to do the emerges with X running, without X running, after
> a
> > fresh restart, after leaving it powered off. No luck yet. I checked the
> > logs
> > also and there is nothing in them that would be the reason for the
> > freezing.
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > -Mark
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> I have this same problem.  My fan went out on my northbridge a while back
> when I had windows on the machine, but windows never locked up.  I
> formatted
> and tried to install gentoo from stage 1.  It would start compiling and
> freeze soon after.  When I underclocked, everything ran fine.  Since then
> I
> have bought a better hsf for my processor and better cooling for my
> northbridge.  The problem still exists.  My next guess is to try some
> better
> memory which I now have, I just need to install it.  The optimal fsb of my
> system is 333mhz and currently I have DDR266 PC2100 in there.  When I
> underclock, I set my fsb to 266mhz.  So I am now thinking that the memory
> is
> a problem.  I have been running it at a higher clock than rated when I was
> running windows and it didn't mind but gentoo does.  I'll get this memory
> installed in the next couple of days and let you know if it helped.  Good
> luck.
> 
> Robert F Donnelly
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I tried running at my full fsb of 333mhz with some DDR333 PC2700 memory and
I still have that same problem.  I think something went bad on my
motherboard while I was running the northbridge w/o a heatsink or fan.  I
can live with a lower clock speed for now.  Any luck on your end?

Robert F Donnelly


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Re: [gentoo-user] Freeze on Emerge Compile

2003-10-03 Thread Mark Huson
My thought was that it probably is the memory i have. I will run some 
diagnostic tests on it to see what the problem is. I'll post back when i have 
found a solution. Thanks for the help.

-Mark


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RE: [gentoo-user] Freeze on Emerge Compile

2003-10-03 Thread Robert F Donnelly
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Huson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 5:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [gentoo-user] Freeze on Emerge Compile
> 
> I am having a problem where my computer will freeze during long compiles.
> The
> computer works fine every other time and i have never had a problem with
> it.
> I have tried to do the emerges with X running, without X running, after a
> fresh restart, after leaving it powered off. No luck yet. I checked the
> logs
> also and there is nothing in them that would be the reason for the
> freezing.
> Any ideas?
> 
> -Mark
> 
> 
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I have this same problem.  My fan went out on my northbridge a while back
when I had windows on the machine, but windows never locked up.  I formatted
and tried to install gentoo from stage 1.  It would start compiling and
freeze soon after.  When I underclocked, everything ran fine.  Since then I
have bought a better hsf for my processor and better cooling for my
northbridge.  The problem still exists.  My next guess is to try some better
memory which I now have, I just need to install it.  The optimal fsb of my
system is 333mhz and currently I have DDR266 PC2100 in there.  When I
underclock, I set my fsb to 266mhz.  So I am now thinking that the memory is
a problem.  I have been running it at a higher clock than rated when I was
running windows and it didn't mind but gentoo does.  I'll get this memory
installed in the next couple of days and let you know if it helped.  Good
luck.

Robert F Donnelly


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Re: [gentoo-user] Freeze on Emerge Compile

2003-10-03 Thread Marshal Newrock
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Mark Huson wrote:

> I am having a problem where my computer will freeze during long compiles. The
> computer works fine every other time and i have never had a problem with it.
> I have tried to do the emerges with X running, without X running, after a
> fresh restart, after leaving it powered off. No luck yet. I checked the logs
> also and there is nothing in them that would be the reason for the freezing.
> Any ideas?

Sounds like something overheating, probably the cpu.  Check your CPU fan
speed (should not be below 5000RPM) and make sure your cables are routed
sanely in your computer.  It could also be slightly bad RAM, which I don't
think memtest86 can check thoroughly enough to cause to overheat.

Some other things to try:
There's a program called cpuburn, which is supposed to stress out your
cpu.  A few other diagnostics are available in app-benchmarks.
Underclock your machine, see if problems stop.  If so, get a better cpu
fan/heat sink.
If you have multiple sticks of RAM, remove one at a time until problems
stop.

Another possibility is if your power supply is starting to go bad, and
will overheat from the higher power draw of heavy cpu load.  Check your
power supply fan.

And on that subject, get a can of compressed air and a small brush and
clean out all the dust from your computer, especially in the power supply
and the heat sinks.  This is something you should do regularly anyway.

You're lucky that you can cause a computer lockup to repeat regularly -
makes it much easier to fix.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Freeze on Emerge Compile

2003-10-03 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Friday 03 October 2003 08:01 am, Mark Huson wrote:
> I am having a problem where my computer will freeze during long
> compiles. The computer works fine every other time and i have never
> had a problem with it. I have tried to do the emerges with X
> running, without X running, after a fresh restart, after leaving it
> powered off. No luck yet. I checked the logs also and there is
> nothing in them that would be the reason for the freezing. Any
> ideas?
>
> -Mark
>
>
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First thing to check is your processor temp. In 60 or 70% of these 
cases the freezes are due to an over heated CPU. Next time it 
happens, reboot imediately and go into your bios and check the temps.
You also can try to prove that this is the case by removing the cover 
from the case and making sure that there is air circulation around 
the box. A fan blowing air at the open case will help. The second 
biggest reason for freezes durring long compiles is bad memory. 
Google for memtest86 and either install it as a boot choice that can 
be started from grub, or burn it to a CD and boot to it. Run the 
tests for at least a half hour, prefferably at least as long as it 
takes for the machine to freeze and see what happens.
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[gentoo-user] Freeze on Emerge Compile

2003-10-03 Thread Mark Huson
I am having a problem where my computer will freeze during long compiles. The 
computer works fine every other time and i have never had a problem with it. 
I have tried to do the emerges with X running, without X running, after a 
fresh restart, after leaving it powered off. No luck yet. I checked the logs 
also and there is nothing in them that would be the reason for the freezing. 
Any ideas?

-Mark


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