Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo on RAID box question
Hi Andrew, On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 11:19, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > > What is "IIRC"? > > "If I remember correctly"...Don't you speak internet? ;) Kai in following message mentioned "IIRC". I have no idea about it B.R. Stephen From: Kai Lindenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo on RAID box question Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 20:58:31 +0200 > After first installing Win2K and coming to installing Linux the latter can't see the raid > controller but 2 drives. Gentoo will be installed on the 1st > drive leaving the 2nd drive empty. If no solution found I have > to remove the raid driver/feature only using it as ATA133 > controller because the motherboard only supports ATA33. IIRC, there is the possibility to have direct software RAID in at least one win version, so you can habe different RAIDS on different partitions. To Get Your Own iCareHK.com Email Address? Go To www.iCareHK.com. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo on RAID box question
Stephen Liu wrote: Hi Andrew, On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 11:19, Andrew Gaffney wrote: What is "IIRC"? "If I remember correctly"...Don't you speak internet? ;) Kai in following message mentioned "IIRC". I have no idea about it I was answering your question. IIRC = If I Remember Correctly -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo on RAID box question
Hi Stephen, Am Freitag, 29. August 2003 04:24 schrieb Stephen Liu: [...] > Can gentoo see a single hard drive and Win2K partition as well, > not 2 hard drives? yes, that's the right to exist for the ataraid drivers besides md. Kai -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo on RAID box question
Stephen Liu wrote: What is "IIRC"? "If I remember correctly"...Don't you speak internet? ;) -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo on RAID box question
Hi Kai, Thanks for your advice. On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 02:58, Kai Lindenberg wrote: > > I use this RAID-0 box to test dual-boot OS, Win2K and Linux. I > > may encounter difficulty in this test. > > So, to use this os combination, you need an ataraid driver for > windows compatibility. I don't know if there is a driver, but you > may ask google. The stable gentoo-sources support the highpoint and > promise raid feature only. I have searched with google.com and posted to other lists. The driver in question is unavailable > > After first installing Win2K and > > coming to installing Linux the latter can't see the raid > > controller but 2 drives. Gentoo will be installed on the 1st > > drive leaving the 2nd drive empty. If no solution found I have > > to remove the raid driver/feature only using it as ATA133 > > controller because the motherboard only supports ATA33. > > IIRC, there is the possibility to have direct software RAID in at > least one win version, so you can habe different RAIDS on different > partitions. What is "IIRC"? Whether you meant after booting up the CD I issue following command at prompt # gentoo md Can gentoo see a single hard drive and Win2K partition as well, not 2 hard drives? - snip - > > Where I can find en ebuild, on the CDs downloaded or from Gentoo > > website? > > these documents are not especially for gentoo, you can find them > with google (keywords: ataraid howto) Noted with thanks B.R. Stephen To Get Your Own iCareHK.com Email Address? Go To www.iCareHK.com. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo on RAID box question
Hi Stephen, Am Montag, 25. August 2003 13:17 schrieb Stephen Liu: > I use this RAID-0 box to test dual-boot OS, Win2K and Linux. I > may encounter difficulty in this test. So, to use this os combination, you need an ataraid driver for windows compatibility. I don't know if there is a driver, but you may ask google. The stable gentoo-sources support the highpoint and promise raid feature only. > Win2K can see the raid > controller but Gentoo can't. sure, without the correct driver > After first installing Win2K and > coming to installing Linux the latter can't see the raid > controller but 2 drives. Gentoo will be installed on the 1st > drive leaving the 2nd drive empty. If no solution found I have > to remove the raid driver/feature only using it as ATA133 > controller because the motherboard only supports ATA33. IIRC, there is the possibility to have direct software RAID in at least one win version, so you can habe different RAIDS on different partitions. > On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 17:46, Kai Lindenberg wrote: [...] > > there is en ebuild called app-doc/howto-text, this contains > > some RAID howtos (Software RAID, Root RAID, ATARAID), have a > > look at this. > > Where I can find en ebuild, on the CDs downloaded or from Gentoo > website? these documents are not especially for gentoo, you can find them with google (keywords: ataraid howto) Kai -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo on RAID box question
Hi Kai, I use this RAID-0 box to test dual-boot OS, Win2K and Linux. I may encounter difficulty in this test. Win2K can see the raid controller but Gentoo can't. After first installing Win2K and coming to installing Linux the latter can't see the raid controller but 2 drives. Gentoo will be installed on the 1st drive leaving the 2nd drive empty. If no solution found I have to remove the raid driver/feature only using it as ATA133 controller because the motherboard only supports ATA33. On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 17:46, Kai Lindenberg wrote: - snip - > I have a Promise and a Highpoint "BIOS controlled software RAID" > controller, indeed, there are ataraid modules for these > controllers, but they only provide _additional_ devices for the > arrays defined in the BIOS. IIRC, the ataraid modules map the BIOS > settings to the md modules to be compatible with the windows > drivers. So you really should disable the raid features of the > controller and use the md modules directly. Then you have the > advantage of being able to have a raid only on some partitions and > not the whole disk. If disable the raid feature Win2K will have problem as abovementioned > - snip - > there is en ebuild called app-doc/howto-text, this contains some > RAID howtos (Software RAID, Root RAID, ATARAID), have a look at > this. Where I can find en ebuild, on the CDs downloaded or from Gentoo website? Thanks B.Regards Stephen To Get Your Own iCareHK.com Email Address? Go To www.iCareHK.com. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo on RAID box question
Hi Stephen, Am Samstag, 23. August 2003 18:09 schrieb Stephen Liu: > The RAID-0 box is for test purpose. The RAID controller needs a > driver to run but it works for Windows only. There is no driver > for Linux therefore Redhat can't see a single drive but 2 drives > instead. I have a Promise and a Highpoint "BIOS controlled software RAID" controller, indeed, there are ataraid modules for these controllers, but they only provide _additional_ devices for the arrays defined in the BIOS. IIRC, the ataraid modules map the BIOS settings to the md modules to be compatible with the windows drivers. So you really should disable the raid features of the controller and use the md modules directly. Then you have the advantage of being able to have a raid only on some partitions and not the whole disk. > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 15:54, Kai Lindenberg wrote: > - snip - > > > > # gentoo doataraid > > > > > > Connection of hard drives > > > PCI RAID controller - z-cyber,0,1,0+1 > > > > you know that this is not a "real" RAID controller? You only > > need to use ataraid when you want to stay compatible with the > > windows drivers, otherwise you should use md directly. > > Sorry I have no idea about a "real" RAID controller. I know some > thing about software RAID on Redhat but not software RAID on > Windows. How to distinguish whether it a "real RAID controller > or not? "Real" RAID controllers are hardware RAID controllers that do all the RAID things alone and independently of the operating system, that means without a RAID driver. Of course you still need drivers to access the hardware. At university we use 3ware hardware RAID controllers without any problems with linux. > > > The controller is detected by the bios of motherboard. Win2K > > > was working on it without problem. A single hard drive of (2 > > > x hard drive) capacity was seen by Win2K > > > > I don't know if the kernel on the boot cd supports md, but you > > should have a look at the "Software-RAID-HOWTO". > > Is there a ""Software-RAID-HOWTO" in Gentoo or just the same as > Redhat there is en ebuild called app-doc/howto-text, this contains some RAID howtos (Software RAID, Root RAID, ATARAID), have a look at this. Kai -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo on RAID box question
Hi Kai, Thanks for your advice. The RAID-0 box is for test purpose. The RAID controller needs a driver to run but it works for Windows only. There is no driver for Linux therefore Redhat can't see a single drive but 2 drives instead. I have no idea about Gentoo and just try to test it as advised that it is possible. On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 15:54, Kai Lindenberg wrote: - snip - > > > > # gentoo doataraid > > > > Connection of hard drives > > PCI RAID controller - z-cyber,0,1,0+1 > > you know that this is not a "real" RAID controller? You only need to > use ataraid when you want to stay compatible with the windows > drivers, otherwise you should use md directly. Sorry I have no idea about a "real" RAID controller. I know some thing about software RAID on Redhat but not software RAID on Windows. How to distinguish whether it a "real RAID controller or not? > > The controller is detected by the bios of motherboard. Win2K was > > working on it without problem. A single hard drive of (2 x hard > > drive) capacity was seen by Win2K > > I don't know if the kernel on the boot cd supports md, but you > should have a look at the "Software-RAID-HOWTO". Is there a ""Software-RAID-HOWTO" in Gentoo or just the same as Redhat Kindly advise. Thanks in advance. B.Regards Stephen To Get Your Own iCareHK.com Email Address? Go To www.iCareHK.com. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo on RAID box question
Hi Stephen, Am Samstag, 23. August 2003 04:13 schrieb Stephen Liu: > I am going to install Gentoo (2 CDs) on a RAID-0 box and am > uncertain whether I have to issue following command at prompt > when installation begins; > > # gentoo doataraid > > Connection of hard drives > PCI RAID controller - z-cyber,0,1,0+1 you know that this is not a "real" RAID controller? You only need to use ataraid when you want to stay compatible with the windows drivers, otherwise you should use md directly. > 1st hard drive - connected to 1st slot of the controller as > master 2nd hard drive - connected to 2nd slot of the controller > as master > > The controller is detected by the bios of motherboard. Win2K was > working on it without problem. A single hard drive of (2 x hard > drive) capacity was seen by Win2K I don't know if the kernel on the boot cd supports md, but you should have a look at the "Software-RAID-HOWTO". Kai -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo on RAID box question
Hi all folks, Just join this list. I am going to install Gentoo (2 CDs) on a RAID-0 box and am uncertain whether I have to issue following command at prompt when installation begins; # gentoo doataraid Connection of hard drives PCI RAID controller - z-cyber,0,1,0+1 1st hard drive - connected to 1st slot of the controller as master 2nd hard drive - connected to 2nd slot of the controller as master The controller is detected by the bios of motherboard. Win2K was working on it without problem. A single hard drive of (2 x hard drive) capacity was seen by Win2K Kindly advice. Thanks in advance. B.Regards Stephen Liu To Get Your Own iCareHK.com Email Address? Go To www.iCareHK.com. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
