Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
As root: cd /usr/src rm linux ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 linux cd linux mount /boot genkernel LOL im not gifted enough in the ways of scripting to do it yet plus my linux died ok ok i killed it, (accident) and im using win2k at the moment (gaming reasons) its a demo version. anyways id like to see a script that does all that goey kernel stuff for ya! LOL actually why not cron a script that does new kernel gen + updating system :-p altho if something died you wouldnt know why. hey what happens if you shut down your system over nights (home system conserve electricity) and you have in a daily cronjob to do something? it just gets done the next time you log on right? im sure it does has too lol geeks and that wierd to put a kink in it like that... oh well lol curiosity got me. = ** computers are a lot like air conditioners, they stop working properly once you open windows ** __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
To funny Stephen.. :D JBanks --- Stephen Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As root: cd /usr/src rm linux ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 linux cd linux mount /boot genkernel LOL im not gifted enough in the ways of scripting to do it yet plus my linux died ok ok i killed it, (accident) and im using win2k at the moment (gaming reasons) its a demo version. anyways id like to see a script that does all that goey kernel stuff for ya! LOL actually why not cron a script that does new kernel gen + updating system :-p altho if something died you wouldnt know why. hey what happens if you shut down your system over nights (home system conserve electricity) and you have in a daily cronjob to do something? it just gets done the next time you log on right? im sure it does has too lol geeks and that wierd to put a kink in it like that... oh well lol curiosity got me. = ** computers are a lot like air conditioners, they stop working properly once you open windows ** __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
Joshua Banks wrote: --- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 23 September 2003 04:16 am, Joshua Banks wrote: try genkernel --config and then make sure the cpu settings and modules you want are included. Would be nice if genkernel had a man page or a -h or --help option! Thanks for the suggestion. I actually planned on doing this already though, as this is the only choice at this point. Next time I upgrade the Kernel, is there a way to have it use the settings used in the previous kernel setup? Or do we actually have to go into the kernel menu and reconfigure all the kernel settings manually each time? Hi Joshua, you can copy your old .config file to the new directory. If you run make oldconfig after that your are prompted for all new modules to say if you want to include them or not, so you don't have to check every page in menuconfig. Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
--- Christian Herzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can copy your old .config file to the new directory. If you run make oldconfig after that your are prompted for all new modules to say if you want to include them or not, so you don't have to check every page in menuconfig. Thanks for the reply Christian this is very helpful. Much appreciated. I also found this link to be helpful as well. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=35323 Thanks, JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
I just recently upgraded KDE from 3.1.2 to 3.1.3. This went smoothly. I then upgraded my Kernel from 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 to 2.4.20-gentoo-r7. This is how I did the kernel upgrade. (please let me know if there's a better way to do this. As I'm new to compiling the kernel and the upgrade didn't seem to load the settings that the other kernel was using) As root: cd /usr/src rm linux ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 linux cd linux mount /boot genkernel Once genkernel completes, I go to /grub/grub.conf and modify this so that its pointing to the newer upgraded kernel. Then, umount /boot reboot Now I must of done something wrong because then all of the sudden my desktop and icons are huge and chageing the resolution doesn't seem to do anything to make the overall desktop area smaller. I can manually adjust icon sizes and tool bar settings but it doesn't seem to allow me adjust the overall resolution. Even know I have it set for 1280x1024 24bit depth, everything is still as though I have the desktop set to 800x600. So I started digging around to check some logs and this is what I found. = my comments cat kdm.log etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0: line 7: /usr/kde/3.1/bin/kdmdesktop: No such file or directory sessions: SessionTypes=Xsession,kde-3.1.2,kde-3.1.3, Changing kdmrc in /usr/kde/3.1 Changing kdmrc in /usr I have no idea what happened here and am not sure what needs to be done modprobe: Can't locate module agpgart [drm] failed to load kernel module agpgart why is this happening? It didn't happen before durning initial install modprobe: Can't locate module radeon [drm] failed to load kernel module radeon (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. Again I don't why this is happening now. How is it that when I built the kernel last time that it never complained about my radeon card? Is there a file still left around like kernel.config with the kernel settings from the kernel I was using before the upgrade. I'm really confused. Now when I look at the kernel with genkernel --config it lists my processor as i386 when I'm using an Intel PIII 666eb coppermine. There's also a ton of stuff that I believe that I could turn off but don't know if its safe or not. I.E.. bluetooth, ir stuff, token ring, ect.. ect... I'm using PPP to get out to the internet and I have one nic card for the internal lan. I have a HP Deskjet printer via 25pin parallel cable and a 32MB ATI Radeon vid card. When I did the intial install everything seemed to go very smoothly. After that I emerged KDE which loaded Xfree as well and then used XFree86 -configure to create an XF86Config file and am using KDM as my display manager. What did I do wrong? Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
On Tuesday 23 September 2003 04:16 am, Joshua Banks wrote: try genkernel --config and then make sure the cpu settings and modules you want are included. Would be nice if genkernel had a man page or a -h or --help option! I just recently upgraded KDE from 3.1.2 to 3.1.3. This went smoothly. I then upgraded my Kernel from 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 to 2.4.20-gentoo-r7. This is how I did the kernel upgrade. (please let me know if there's a better way to do this. As I'm new to compiling the kernel and the upgrade didn't seem to load the settings that the other kernel was using) As root: cd /usr/src rm linux ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 linux cd linux mount /boot genkernel Once genkernel completes, I go to /grub/grub.conf and modify this so that its pointing to the newer upgraded kernel. Then, umount /boot reboot Now I must of done something wrong because then all of the sudden my desktop and icons are huge and chageing the resolution doesn't seem to do anything to make the overall desktop area smaller. I can manually adjust icon sizes and tool bar settings but it doesn't seem to allow me adjust the overall resolution. Even know I have it set for 1280x1024 24bit depth, everything is still as though I have the desktop set to 800x600. So I started digging around to check some logs and this is what I found. = my comments cat kdm.log etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0: line 7: /usr/kde/3.1/bin/kdmdesktop: No such file or directory sessions: SessionTypes=Xsession,kde-3.1.2,kde-3.1.3, Changing kdmrc in /usr/kde/3.1 Changing kdmrc in /usr I have no idea what happened here and am not sure what needs to be done modprobe: Can't locate module agpgart [drm] failed to load kernel module agpgart why is this happening? It didn't happen before durning initial install modprobe: Can't locate module radeon [drm] failed to load kernel module radeon (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. Again I don't why this is happening now. How is it that when I built the kernel last time that it never complained about my radeon card? Is there a file still left around like kernel.config with the kernel settings from the kernel I was using before the upgrade. I'm really confused. Now when I look at the kernel with genkernel --config it lists my processor as i386 when I'm using an Intel PIII 666eb coppermine. There's also a ton of stuff that I believe that I could turn off but don't know if its safe or not. I.E.. bluetooth, ir stuff, token ring, ect.. ect... I'm using PPP to get out to the internet and I have one nic card for the internal lan. I have a HP Deskjet printer via 25pin parallel cable and a 32MB ATI Radeon vid card. When I did the intial install everything seemed to go very smoothly. After that I emerged KDE which loaded Xfree as well and then used XFree86 -configure to create an XF86Config file and am using KDM as my display manager. What did I do wrong? Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Categorical Imperative: Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law. --Immanuel Kant: (Grounding for the Metaphysics of Morals) (1785) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
Genkernel will actually do even more then that, look at the source, you can actually default it to use config and a few other options as well.. Be nice if it had something in conf.d/ to change.. If I get some free time, I might change it myself and submit it. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question.. On Tuesday 23 September 2003 04:16 am, Joshua Banks wrote: try genkernel --config and then make sure the cpu settings and modules you want are included. Would be nice if genkernel had a man page or a -h or --help option! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
--- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 23 September 2003 04:16 am, Joshua Banks wrote: try genkernel --config and then make sure the cpu settings and modules you want are included. Would be nice if genkernel had a man page or a -h or --help option! Thanks for the suggestion. I actually planned on doing this already though, as this is the only choice at this point. Next time I upgrade the Kernel, is there a way to have it use the settings used in the previous kernel setup? Or do we actually have to go into the kernel menu and reconfigure all the kernel settings manually each time? I'm seriously doing as much reading as possible on this subject but I find myself getting lost in the vast amount of info on this subject. Not trying to make excuses but its hard to stay goal centric trying to sift through mounds of info trying to find what fits and what doesn't for what I'm actually trying to accomplish. I realize I'm not going to understand this over night. This is all I really want. My goal is to understand to a degree what can be added and removed safely (in regards to the hardware that I have on this pc) from the kernel setup-menuconfig, starting from the top of the kernel menu and working all the way down to the bottom. I understand that most Kernel menuconfig-setup options/selections will differ from one user to the next, but any general examples would be nice. Is there any info out on the web that Specifically walks beginners or even non-beginners through the Kernel-menu-config from top to bottom? Possibly explaining each menu option along the way.. :) This would be ideal. Even more ideal would be examples for the PIII architecture if possible. Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
--- Jeffrey Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Genkernel will actually do even more then that, look at the source, you can actually default it to use config and a few other options as well.. Be nice if it had something in conf.d/ to change.. If I get some free time, I might change it myself and submit it. What do you mean, look at the source? Genkernel itself? JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
You do realize when your on a menu item, hitting the help button explains what that item is?? Some has really good info, some is a little sparse but its always helped me on items I didn't know. Including what the name of the module will be if it has that option. -Original Message- From: Joshua Banks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question.. --- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 23 September 2003 04:16 am, Joshua Banks wrote: try genkernel --config and then make sure the cpu settings and modules you want are included. Would be nice if genkernel had a man page or a -h or --help option! Thanks for the suggestion. I actually planned on doing this already though, as this is the only choice at this point. Next time I upgrade the Kernel, is there a way to have it use the settings used in the previous kernel setup? Or do we actually have to go into the kernel menu and reconfigure all the kernel settings manually each time? I'm seriously doing as much reading as possible on this subject but I find myself getting lost in the vast amount of info on this subject. Not trying to make excuses but its hard to stay goal centric trying to sift through mounds of info trying to find what fits and what doesn't for what I'm actually trying to accomplish. I realize I'm not going to understand this over night. This is all I really want. My goal is to understand to a degree what can be added and removed safely (in regards to the hardware that I have on this pc) from the kernel setup-menuconfig, starting from the top of the kernel menu and working all the way down to the bottom. I understand that most Kernel menuconfig-setup options/selections will differ from one user to the next, but any general examples would be nice. Is there any info out on the web that Specifically walks beginners or even non-beginners through the Kernel-menu-config from top to bottom? Possibly explaining each menu option along the way.. :) This would be ideal. Even more ideal would be examples for the PIII architecture if possible. Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
Yeah, genkernel is just a bash wrapper. IN the beginning of it, it has some options, for example you can default the menuconfig to yes if you want. -Original Message- From: Joshua Banks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question.. --- Jeffrey Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Genkernel will actually do even more then that, look at the source, you can actually default it to use config and a few other options as well.. Be nice if it had something in conf.d/ to change.. If I get some free time, I might change it myself and submit it. What do you mean, look at the source? Genkernel itself? JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
