Re: [gentoo-user] Mail-header

2003-09-15 Thread Spider 
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On 15 Sep 2003 09:28:23 +0200
Lutz Feldgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> would it be a big problem for you or the list-manager to change the
> sender-address to the mailing-list-address?
> It is really uncomfortable to have half of the mails to this list
> filtered out by gmx-anti-spam...there is no way to tell the filter to
> select by recipient-address.


Yep, It'd be a big problem. For the rest of us.

see, we've been suffering some real idi0tz here at times, You know the
kind that set an auto-responder to respond that "I'm away from the
office" at every email they recieve?  or the kind that bounce the
message + notification at each message it recieves because their INBOX
is full?

i'm sure you can imagine what this looks like after four hours, when the
headers are mangled as you suggest? Yep. each bounce goes to the list
(automagically) and then generates yet another bounce. increment this
feedback loop with each message from people going on with life,
complaining about the crap-flood and you have a very pretty sight.

soon the next person got a full mailbox too.   okay, now there's two
spambouncers feeding eachother.  


So, Yes. It would be a problem.  :-)

Better make your software WhiteList on "List-Id"  or "Delivered To" 
flags.

//Spider



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Re: [gentoo-user] Mail-header

2003-09-15 Thread Jason Stubbs 
On Monday 15 September 2003 20:04, Alexander Futasz wrote:
> On 15 Sep 2003 09:28:23 +0200, Lutz Feldgen wrote:
> > would it be a big problem for you or the list-manager to change the
> > sender-address to the mailing-list-address?
> > It is really uncomfortable to have half of the mails to this list
> > filtered out by gmx-anti-spam...there is no way to tell the filter to
> > select by recipient-address.
>
> I turned GMX spamfiltering completely off and filter myself now. True -
> I have to download all the spam, but my spam detection is way better. ;)

Just one word - SpamAssassin. I've been using it for about 3 months now 
filtering all incoming mails (over 1) and bayes scores very well. I still 
have to tweek it a bit more because about 1 in 50 spams are still not being 
detected and some Japanese mail is being misdetected, but all in all it's 
great!

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mail-header

2003-09-15 Thread Alexander Futasz 
On 15 Sep 2003 09:28:23 +0200, Lutz Feldgen wrote:
> would it be a big problem for you or the list-manager to change the
> sender-address to the mailing-list-address?
> It is really uncomfortable to have half of the mails to this list
> filtered out by gmx-anti-spam...there is no way to tell the filter to
> select by recipient-address.

I turned GMX spamfiltering completely off and filter myself now. True -
I have to download all the spam, but my spam detection is way better. ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mail-header

2003-09-15 Thread Jason Stubbs 
On Monday 15 September 2003 16:28, Lutz Feldgen wrote:
> It is really uncomfortable to have half of the mails to this list
> filtered out by gmx-anti-spam...there is no way to tell the filter to
> select by recipient-address.

The following headers are in each message:

Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Unsubscribe: 
List-Subscribe: 
List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail 
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


You can't use any of those? List-Id would probably be perfect, no?

Jason

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[gentoo-user] Mail-header

2003-09-15 Thread Lutz Feldgen 
Hi there,

would it be a big problem for you or the list-manager to change the
sender-address to the mailing-list-address?
It is really uncomfortable to have half of the mails to this list
filtered out by gmx-anti-spam...there is no way to tell the filter to
select by recipient-address.

regards,

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